[quote]Short after we are revived we find out that the Hive are being active again both in Earth and the Moon. And NO ONE FROM THE VANGUARD NEW? No one had set up a perimeter? And off we go, to fix that mess.[/quote] Well we were the patrol that came across it. You saying the Vanguard really let this slip by them would be like a Security guard who caught a criminal about to get away with a stolen items saying "This place's security sucks". [quote]No, not really. Because Eris´ Fireteam had a massive wipe after going into the Hellmouth strolling like boy scouts thinking they were going to go flawless. They probably went in with blue gear or something. Aand off we go again to try to put the plug back in that massive bottle that Eris spilled. But well, it was just 6 guys, they got overpowered. If they had had more troops...[/quote] Honestly there really is no excusing the First Crota Fireteam. They were cocky, somehow even after the massive ego check that was the assault on the moon, and it got them killed. And it was Eriana 3's idea to go into the Hellmouth not Eris'. But the blame would probably fall on Toland. He knew the most about what they were getting themselves into, and he went along with it. Why you might ask. To get some of that sweet Deathsinger action. [quote]Or would it matter? Because Saladin and the Iron Lords went in with a troop of A HUNDRED looking for SIVA, and 9 got to the final room. Nine. Out of a hundred. That´s like 16 raid wipes in a day. And we are talking about legendary Guardians here, heroes that some weapons have been named after... even factoring Rasputin going berserk, c´mon... Did they not prepare at all for that? And again, they send the Kinderguardian legion, dudes that have been alive-again for 2-3 years... to fix the mess that a whole platoon of alleged supersoldiers couldn´t mend.[/quote] Well you should remember, the Fallen don't know how to use SIVA properly and only just found it. Rasputin is a Super AI who likely has countless files on SIVA and how to operate it and probably a couple decades to get the hang of it. What we've been fighting would be nothing compared to what the Iron Lords faced. [quote]And that´s how the game has been going ever since. They give us info (sometimes) but most of the time, our so-called mentors are like "yeah, uh, gather some bros and fix this. I, uh... have to stay in the Tower looking at... maps. Or wolves".[/quote] It's not like they can abandon all their responsibilities and go fight gods, Cayde has expressed his disdain of his position quite well. They're mentors to countless Guardians, they've got a lot on their plate The only "mess" we've had to clean up would be the Reef's (shocker) when they tried to intimidate the Nine. The Nine know the Reef Awoken are a bunch of bitches so they called their bluff and unleashed Skolas. I like to imagin it was done with a chuckle or at the very least a smug grin.

Ghost: GAURDIUN WAK OP!! Guardian: What is it? Ghost: DA ERON LAWRDS NID YEH HULP TE FAIT SEEVAH BCUZ DEI CULNT!! Guardian: Dammit, fine. sometime later... Ghost: GIARDAN WUK APE!! Guardian: Dammit what? Ghost: DEH RIFF GGUT HET BAI DAH WULPHS!! U GOTZ TU FEIT DIM!! Guardian: Okay I'll do it... Even more time later... Ghost: GERDUAN!!! Guardian: -blam!-... WHAT!!!?? Ghost: TEH HAIB HUV RITARND TOH KELL OS!! IU GUTS TUH STAWP DUM!! Guardian: This is the last straw... Some time later after some other time later... Ghost: GORDIRIUN!!! Guardian: .......... Ghost: UEE GEVTS TUI KALEL DEH BLUAK GORDIN!! Guardian: One... Last... Time... The events after some time later... Ghost: GIGITTYGUARDEN!!! Guardian: SHUT UP YOU ROBOTIC SKANK!! JUST SHUT UP AND LET ME DIE ALREADY!!! Ghost: BWUT WEE GOITZ TOEH FAIT DOH VICKS!!! Guardian: To hell with the vex, you, the traveler, and everyone else. Ghost: BAUT GORDERUN!!! Guardian: GO FIND SOME OTHER BUTT TO DO THE SHIT FOR YOU IM OUT!! *jumps off the tower* Years later... Ghost: GARGIAN!! Guardian: WHAT!! WHAT!! WHAAAAT!?? Ghost: GAWR- Guardian: Don't say it Ghost: DEE- Guardian: Ghost I swear to god... Ghost: OUN- Guardian: Don't do it!! Ghost: ....... * Guardian stares at Ghost relentlessly* Ghost: GERDEEAWN DAAUWN!!! Guardian: YOU SON OF THE GREATEST BI-

We are gods at this point we killed orxy with his sword loguc and he was god thus we have taken his mantle no pun intended and now we are the taken king.

[quote]The more we progress through Destiny´s story and events, the more it feels as if we are just errand boys, fixing the things that the grownups left unattended or just failed miserably at. Let´s begin... Short after we are revived we find out that the Hive are being active again both in Earth and the Moon. And NO ONE FROM THE VANGUARD NEW? No one had set up a perimeter? And off we go, to fix that mess. But you know, OK. Fine. Their ranks were thin, probably the first time that they screwed up... No, not really. Because Eris´ Fireteam had a massive wipe after going into the Hellmouth strolling like boy scouts thinking they were going to go flawless. They probably went in with blue gear or something. Aand off we go again to try to put the plug back in that massive bottle that Eris spilled. But well, it was just 6 guys, they got overpowered. If they had had more troops... Or would it matter? Because Saladin and the Iron Lloyds went in with a troop of A HUNDRED looking for SIVA, and 9 got to the final room. Nine. Out of a hundred. That´s like 16 raid wipes in a day. And we are talking about legendary Guardians here, heroes that some weapons have been named after... even factoring Rasputin going berserk, c´mon... Did they not prepare at all for that? And again, they send the Kinderguardian legion, dudes that have been alive-again for 2-3 years... to fix the mess that a whole platoon of alleged supersoldiers couldn´t mend. And that´s how the game has been going ever since. They give us info (sometimes) but most of the time, our so-called mentors are like "yeah, uh, gather some bros and fix this. I, uh... have to stay in the Tower looking at... maps. Or wolves". I´m sure that I´m not the only one who´s noticed this pattern.[/quote] We ve been dead for how long before been resurrect. 500 year or 1000 years ? Probably with all that time passed our brain has forgot to think by himself. Dont u know yet guardian are puppet and I wont surprise if we are truly the bad guy in all these.