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Edited by Beserkerrr:
4/27/2016 3:19:15 PM
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Trials Rant - Primary are Secondaries
EDIT: Angelic Pain's idea for special ammo which he/she commented is great.
"Should get X ammo per weapon type and archetype for the entire match"
(I personally think 8 for a match, and when you switch archetype you get 2 shots with the achetype you switch to. I mean, after using 8 sniper shots you wouldn't want people just switching out to a shotgun for another 8 shots.)
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I love Trials of Osiris, I think the whole idea of it is fantastic and I love the competitiveness of it.
It can be the most enjoyable thing in Destiny for me
But it can also be the most aggravating thing I've ever experienced in gaming.
Snipers.
I can't believe how much people rely on special ammo these days.
Its an absolute snipe/shotgun fest.
If people aren't sniping, they're rushing you with shotguns.
And with the ammo nerf, you can't switch from a sniper to a shotgun to counter it anymore. You can't make those strategic decisions and adapt to the opponents playstyle.
I feel as though that weapon changing ammo nerf was totally unreasonable.
I hate feeling like I'm better off hardscoping a corner with a sniper than trying to push through it with something like a Suros or at least hold it.
I hate how god damn overpowered revives are. I like how important they are and how their ability to win games requires teamwork... But seriously.. Why can't a Titan smash take out a reviver and a revivee? I feel like them being immune for the first second is stupid. I personally think that the person doing the reviving shouldn't get a shield... It's just too much. It punishes the other team for making a move like any team should. The whole revive shield thing only promotes one shot kills with snipers and I hate it. I just want to play a game of Trials where primaries are actually PRIMARY.
Like seriously... Imagine a serious game of Trials where nobody sniped. Weapons like Suros REGIME and most Pulse Rifles might actually see some use???
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1 ReplyShould get X ammo per weapon type and archetype for the entire match
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8 RepliesHere is the one thing I can agree on big time and that's the special ammo and sniping. Primary weapons? It should be vice versa seeing as shotguns and snipers are used way more. I love trials and like the ammo changes. I wish they would start payers with 4 rounds and not allow weapon switching. Having people abide side arms to get special was bad also. I loved it when they removed the special ammo completely as at least it allowed people to actually pull a primary gun.
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1 ReplyThis isn't a trials rant. It is a crucible rant. Bungie has changed not a damn thing about snipers in pvp. Of course our secondaries are not of nearly the value in pve, and yes to use a primary in this game is a joke but again this is a crucible rant as it is throughout the pvp of the game. Iron Banner isn't even enjoyable with half those playing just roaming map edges using snipers.
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1 ReplyWasn't the ammo nerf because of snipers in the first place? People who would do things like start with a sidearm or something like the invective and then swap over once they got free ammo?
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See what ever they do S.weapons will always be better than primary in PvP because of an instant TTK. Bungie can fix it by tow ways 1- increase primary TTK or 2- remove S.ammo from PvP or let it spawn as heavy It's all up to the community to decide because if they did it right away they will get a back lash from the community.
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1 ReplyI just don't understand why they made the special ammo so prevalent in pvp again I thought this would go along with every other mode where special spawns are less frequent NOPE infact they are more frequent post April update. The shits ridiculous.
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8 RepliesEdited by iDovahBear: 4/25/2016 11:45:41 PMLast time I played Trials, I rushed a guy using Red Spectre and a Sniper. I had a MIDA out and a Sniper as my secondary. I waited to land to start shooting, to make sure I was accurate. Everything seemed great. But even though I was in medium range and he clearly had the better weapon, this guy did the most amazingly crutch thing ever: He whipped out a sniper, primed me with a body, and only [i]then[/i] swapped back to his Primary to defeat me. I saw his character model swapping the guns and everything. It was at that moment I realized Bungie indeed had made all Primaries Special Weapons by fine-tuning their range too much. It was then that I also realized that we are in a Special Needs Meta. I was having good matchmaking these past few weeks, but now it's going straight back to garbage tryhards exploiting all the gimmicky shit. Probably because of the casuals realizing this game is still a nerfherding tryhard's playground. I hope I'm wrong about the matchmaking, at least.
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1 ReplyCarful. I don't want to lose shields in pve when reviving a teammate. That is a reward for going to pick them up because they are usually being fired upon.
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3 RepliesI agree with you, except foe the shotgun part. Shotguns are nigh unusable in Trials, because in order to use one you have to cross maps comprised entirely of sniping lanes in order to get close enough to the enemy to rest the tip if your gun on the side of their head.
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Snipers are the reason why I never bothered with Trials. Honestly, it'd be much better if primaries were the only weapons available, without any heavy or special ammo.
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Universal Remote 1KYS Any good heavy
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1 ReplyEdited by SamSu916: 4/26/2016 11:46:43 PMThey should just make it that you start out with one full clip of special ammo and on the third win-round the special ammo create shows up instead of the heavy. I'm almost sure I've read this somewhere before as well so I can't be the only one that thinks this is probably a better alternative. Also the immunity in the first second is reasonable unless they remove the revive animation. Since you can't do anything for one whole second after being revived, the revive invincibility timer starts while they're in that animation.
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1 ReplyI agree only in regards to the fact that secondary's are the most important weapon in your arsenal 90% of the time. For this reason I use The Universal Remote and 1KYS.... BEST OF BOTH WORLDS! :) This is the new "META" ... many still just haven't caught on yet.
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It's just the fact that people are relying on snipers for that easy kill and not confident about using their primary
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5 RepliesYour team and your enemies spawn on completely opposite sides of the map. Did it occur to you that it is just common sense to use a sniper as primary until some one closes the gap?
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My fireteam and I are having the exact same problem. I don't think sniping requires much skill (neither do firebolts) we just can't go to the lighthouse anymore because of all the snipers and 335 light people
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Primary weapons just aren't versatile enough. That's why year one was awesome if you weren't playing against thorn the last word mythoclast or suros in their hay days of course.
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1 Replysnipers and shotguns make the game serious , much harder and thus require more team work . Only primary would suck imo.
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1 Reply[quote]And with the ammo nerf, you can't switch from a sniper to a shotgun to counter it anymore.[/quote] Universal Remote+Sniper of your choice (mine is Longbow)
