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4/7/2016 2:51:49 AM
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“Weapon Balance” means PVP players are complaining

So after today’s stream I have come to realize “Weapon Balance” means PVP players are complaining about weapons. Bungie I love your game and I am going to continue to play because you have created something great. Let’s be honest a lot of studios create great games. The problem is there are very few games that become legend (Mario, Zelda, WOW, Halo). To me, I think Destiny has the potential to be bigger than all of those. (Strictly my opinion don’t hate). So, this pains me to call your weapon balance reasons out “We want you to be able to use the same weapons in PVE and PVP and feel like they perform the same.” There are numerous reasons why this is terrible logic. The main one being “GUARDIANS DON’T PLAY LIKE AI” Also, if you are so worried about weapon balance then why have you NEVER buffed a weapon that is under used in PVE? Why is 99% of weapon changes based on PVP? Why do you continue to make weapons LESS fun to use instead of making MORE weapons fun to use? Please just separate the two and be done with all this. You’re seriously killing PVE. Oh and thanks for nerfing Necrochasm again it was performing way too well. When this weapon was released it was one of the most extraordinary let downs for the community. Considering it was one of the hardest weapons to obtain. Who here remembers their first time using Necro and thinking “This is it?” Now when I play legacy strikes that won’t be viable either.

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  • We've been saying this since HoW patches. It has only gotten worse. Now more people understand.

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  • I don't know if they are complaining as much as Bungie sees a weapon over used and they nerf it. Anything that more than half the community is using, they nerf. Instead of trying to make other guns better and more powerful, they nerf. It's the lazy way out. Such is the way of the idiot Bungo.

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    • No, it means Jon W. is lazy.

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      • 343 would do a better job on destiny with at least a story and a good pvp game and pve

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      • I feel like this whole game, Destiny, is just a metaphor for Daycare The Devs are the adults in charge of the children and their activities We're *obviously* the children, but we're separated into two groups: the PvP kids the PvE kids but you see, the PvP kids' parents pay the Daycare more money, and therefore their kids' need are more catered to and the PvE kids are just in the corner. eating glue. licking paint chips from the wall. because the adults in charge simply don't care enough to give them the attention, respect, and care they deserve after a year of loyalty but who cares, right? it's Bungie they made Halo they don't need to listen to the more rational side of the community just whoever makes them more popular and more money

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        • Edited by SITRI: 4/8/2016 5:01:40 PM
          Destiny does have the potential, bungie just keeps -blam!-ing up

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        • They have no idea how to do it. That's the problem. So they make dumb excuses.

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        • Edited by MenTaL9R: 4/7/2016 11:47:36 PM
          Bungie has actually buffed weapons for PvE before. Back in year one they buffed shotguns 100% in PvE and Pulse Rifles by 10% PvE and PvP because no one in the right mind was using either of them. Well it had the desired affect, everyone started crushing the AI enemies with shotguns... and Pulse Rifles also got "too popular" so... yeah you guessed it... they nerf'ed them. I'm actually surprised they haven't nerf'ed swords yet. Bungie just doesn't want anyone using any weapon or weapon class "too much". I get the feeling that in their utopia you'd be switching weapons constantly while you're playing PvE in order to have the right one equipped for each circumstance it seems. I.E. you're in a tight area so you use your hand cannon, then you get into a bigger room so you use an auto rifle, then you're in a more open area so time to pull out your pulse or scout rifle, etc... They just don't seem to get that people will naturally develop favorites, and people like to be able to use that favorite in every circumstance. That makes the game FUN. Being able to use a variety of weapons in any circumstance is FUN. I used to love to be able to just pick a hand cannon and run anything I wanted with it, or a scout, or whatever. They were all good all the time, the game was fun, and I used a variety of weapons. Now I stick to a half a dozen or so (two in each class), that's it. How is that good? How is that fun? Their obsession with each class having to fit into a box of their choosing is ruining the fun that this game once provided. I almost never play PvE anymore. I really only stick it out to run some bounties and/or the daily, once they're done, I either play some crucible or play a different game. It sucks because I love the gaming mechanics of Destiny, Bungie nailed that and it's the ONLY reason I still play it.

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          • Vex mythoclast

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          • Fuk bungie they listen to fuking scrubs and nerf everything wtf am I going to use in toO, oh i know I'm going to camp with a sniper bc the fuking found a way to nerf a sniper; u fuking can't nerf a sniper is impossible but noo they found a fuking way and made it harder to be skilled with one, today I was watching battlefield 4 and it takes 2 fuking shots to kill someone with a machine gun in destiny it takes the whole fuking clip wtf bungie

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          • i feel if we can just ignore all the arguments based around performance in ToO/elimination when balancing the rest of the game, it would actually be ok.....

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          • Bump

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          • I feel like it's stupid tbh. Who's running around with The Last Word in PvE?? I think Bungie got a lot of stuff wrong this time and I agreed with a lot of the previous changes.

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            • Mida is yet another victim, and no one is surprised anymore. Getting really old, this nerfing bs.

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              • "PvE player upset other half of game matters"

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                • PVP logic - I was killed, not by a player with more skill , but by a player that was using an OP gun or OP sub-class and if they are using same gun and or sub class as me , they must be lagging . must NERF and or blame it on Bungie's servers

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                  • People will always use any gun and win in PvE easily but I do agree some strictly PvP changes need to be made

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                    • It's been a trend since the 1st DLC...weapons get worse and the great ones get removed.

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                    • Edited by SKILES85: 4/7/2016 11:13:35 PM
                      You know y2 weapons are shit when average weapons like mida and Quillims are getting nerfed. Y2 gave us no choice. I haven't used RLs since ttk dropped. Quillims was my only choice for things like IB because everything else drops at shit levels. My trials MG has a much lower light level. Not only that, Quillims was the only weapon I actually liked from the raid. There's nothing left. Why make all these different weapons if they are going to be the same damn thing in the end? Why even have exotics if it can't be slightly better than legendary ones? Why even pvp if the loot is the same as boring, low level as tower items?

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                    • You nailed it friend. This crap is killing destiny if they don't seperate pve and pvp it's gonna ruin this game completely. And I can't even tell you the last time I saw a necrochasm so that's stupid as well.

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                    • Weapon balance isn't [i]all[/i] bad. For example some weapons can be buffed (like fusions and pulse rifles).

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                      • Yup, I'm glad I stopped playing so long ago. That plus the terrible servers, cheaters, and pvp focus killed it.

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                        • Somebody needs to get fired!

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                        • Edited by Megaman: 4/7/2016 11:00:43 AM
                          I quit reading and don't hold anything you say accountable after reading you think Destiny can be bigger than Zelda, etc... You don't know a quality video game if you think Destiny is even remotely comparable to the games you listed.

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                          • When are they ever not complaining?

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