originally posted in:Masters of the Hunt
Let the hunt begin! For our first discussion we will be trying understand the lore of Thorn and The Last Word, and find out how these two weapons lore is connected.
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Your new to this game I'm guessing I'll explain
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Shin Malpher, the user of The Last Word, had a one on one final duel with Dredgen Yor. This standoff was also believed to be the origin of the Golden Gun super. Grimoire: The Last Word 4
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Edited by The Fallen Zyzz: 3/24/2016 6:01:45 PMMeet Thorn guy and TLW guy. Thorn guy kills TLW guy. Turns out TLW guy has an apprentice/adopted son from a town that Thorn guy burned to the ground Indeterminate amount of time passes Thorn guy has a show down with the apprentice who has now become a manly man Apprentice gets pissed and summons the Golden Gun Kills Thorn guy and becomes possibly the first GG OP no re plz nerf Hunter around Was getting killed and creating the Gunslingers part of Thorn guy's plan all along? Find out next time. [spoiler]Took all of one year for all of that to get fleshed out. Thanks Bungie writers. You blue balled me on your lore and Grimoire for a full year.[/spoiler] [spoiler]Thorn and Rose are not two different weapons. It's the same weapon, viewed through a different perspective. For that matter, Thorn and TLW are not the same weapon either. Nor is Jaren Ward the same person as Dredgen Yor. Although, since the lore is so ambiguous and up for interpretation in most parts, the writers could certainly work some fanfic moves and pull a "we wuz usin cymbohlisum t3h entyre thyme".[/spoiler]
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https://youtu.be/FgyvLONRNaI Talks a bit about Thorn but still awesome video. From what I understand the wielders of Thorn and TLW were legendary Hunters, though the guy with Thorn turned ebil, as the video shows. Not my video
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pretty obvious how they're connected...
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One of my friends was talking about this, saying that he watched a lore video on this. What I remember, Shin Malphur and Dredgen Yur went to a 1 on 1 hand cannon battle. Shin beat out Dredgen, who self resurrected (from what I remember, my friend told me this a while ago), and killed Shin with The Rose. It then corrupted into Thorn and The Last Word corrupted into The First Curse. Either that or TLW corrupted into TFC then into Thorn.
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Tons of YouTube videos.
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Some guy named dredgen Yor knew a guy called shin malphur. Shin had the last word and dredgen had the rose (but turned evil due to darkness)