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12/19/2015 3:12:14 PM
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Update 2.1.0 Has Ruined Crucible

Everyone can follow the link to view the full patch notes on Bungie.net. Update 2.1.0 was promising. It was going to fix glitches, finally nerf sunbreaker and introduce the Sparrow Racing League, a mode we've been asking for since vanilla. It released on December 8th and we were horrified at the results. [b]Sunbreaker:[/b] Sunbreaker was blatantly overpowered pre-patch, every rational person will admit that. I main a Titan and I use Sunbreaker in PvP so I would know. Not only did they nerf the armor by 9.09% which was the one thing it needed, but Bungie also felt like they needed to reduce the hammer's AOE damage by 20%, Explosive Pyre's effectiveness by an unknown percent, the travel speed by 1.32%, Sunstrike's DOT from 6.5s to 5.5s, tracking by 25% and the cauterize perk, subsequently giving it a 3 second cooldown. The last thing here was a good addition so I'm not criticizing Bungie's choice on cauterize. However, everything in between was not needed and has led to Sunbreaker being essentially gutted. It's still viable but it's not that good anymore and I consider it borderline underpowered, along with every other Titan subclass. We are now back to where we started in the world of Destiny, the underdogs, the skill class, the class that is the hardest to do well with and because of that, where Hunters and Warlocks dominate yet again with abilities far more overpowered than Sunbreaker's. [b]Matchmaking: [/b] It's not in the patch notes but when I play PvP, I can tell something was done to the matchmaking. It's laggier and it's much harder to win. Bungie seems to have replaced connection based matchmaking with skill based matchmaking, subsequently making Crucible much laggier as we're connecting to people further away but are more on par with us in terms of skill. Whether this was deliberate or a glitch I don't know but if you play PvP enough, you'll see something was done. In one week, I was matched with Ms5oooWatts, mtashed (both of whom I beat into the ground) and several other lesser known guys who held 2+ K/D's. Skirmish is officially as difficult to win in as Trials is and that's not a good thing as many people do strongly believe regular PvP should be more casual than Trials or Iron Banner. [b]Gun Balance:[/b] This isn't nearly as much of a problem as the last two are but it still is a negative aspect of this update. Shotguns were yet again nerfed heavily. The changes leading to ruining the fast rate of fire and low impact shotguns, but leaving high impact and low rate of fire shotguns intact. Auto Rifles were barely even touched, leaving most of them in a spot where they are viable but not great weapons. Pulse Rifles were also nerfed heavily, destroying low ROF pulses and severely weakening mid ROF pulses. As of late, Last Word and 1000 yard combos are the meta, leaving Crucible in ruin. What would fix this would be a significant reduction in aim assist across all weapons, particularly sniper rifles. In conclusion, PvP has been destroyed by the latest update. Sure there were some positive fixes like heavy ammo being relocated on maps such as Asylum and player spawn points being improved but these weren't enough to make PvP better. Until Bungie fixes PvP again and undoes the supposed matchmaking changes, Crucible will remain a broken, unplayable mess.

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  • Yeah the new matchmaking makes solo play in the Crucible for high skill players into a miserable experience and sweat fest.

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  • Bump

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  • bump ! new matchmaking is stupid af . I made a thread about it https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/181693131

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  • New matchmaking sucks! Bump!

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  • Agree on sunbreaker. Whatever happened to play testing or the idea of gradual balance adjustments? They somehow believed it would be a good idea to hit various unnecessary areas with a sledgehammer. Just stupid. They have just about destroyed that subclass. Pulse rifles: agree. Those were fun, yet are currently sub par. Aim assist: disagree, somewhat. I simply hate nerfs of any kind. I think we need to move away from the nerf crap. They have repeatedly nerfed weapons, thus changing the game entirely and making said weapons trash. Outside of situations where something is truly game breaking, they should be more focused on buffing things toward balance. They did seriously screw up several things.

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    • [quote]We are now back to where we started in the world of Destiny, the underdogs, the skill class, the class that is the hardest to do well with and because of that, where Hunters and Warlocks dominate yet again with abilities far more overpowered than Sunbreaker's. [/quote] Shut the fck up kid, Titans are no better or worse than either Hunters or Warlocks. Warlocks can be killed in Stormtrance easily, Radiance does fck all other than self-res and Nova Bomb is over in 2 seconds. Hunters are only the fastest killing because GG only has 3 shots and you get no extra health, Tether takes ages to hit and the super is the only good part of the subclass other than Shadestep and Arc Blade can easily be taken out my a shotgun melee combo. It may be the only hunter subclass to get a health boost and not have a limited amount of kills, but you have to be very close to kill. So just get good. Sorry if having 7 tracking Nova Bombs that can give you your health back sometimes still isn't good enough for you. [i]You don't like it?[/i] [b]Don't main a Titan...[/b]

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      • These forums ruined crucible.

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      • I've taken a break from destiny for a few weeks and I'm sad to see everything is the same with Bungies heavy handed changes. Whether it's a buff or a nerf it's always one extreme or another.

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      • BUMP. They messed this game up so bad! There is CONSTANT red bars in ever damn game I play! You can't even hit them before they hit you! It's ridiculous

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        • Plus the fact that the other two subclass where untouched when there's clearly stuff wrong with them as well. And the fact that Bungie has ignored our requests to fix the "out of the map" glitches people use to win a game, which requires zero skill.

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          • Crucible is where I live and breathe whenever I'm on destiny and the matchmaking is horrendous. I never had to drop out of matches since TTK until this update. There is ALWAYS someone red barring/lagging and it is frustrating. I usually get on after work and unwind with a few matches but I've been skipping doing that because I just get more frustrated playing. It needs to go back to internet based matchmaking not skill based. Sure I love to play equal players.... If they aren't teleporting across the map while I shoot and do no damage.

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          • Someone posts this after every update. When is everyone going to learn to stop crying nerd?

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            • They also ruined over 90% of fusion rifles... shotguns still run rampant

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            • Sunbreaker is now fair I don't see a problem with it range on storm caller is op sniper rife need a nerf somehow that's about it.

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              • I want year one crucible I want year one last word I want year one blink shotgun What I don't want is pussies fu#king complaining and shit getting nerfed again. I don't want last round sniper, go fu#k your self who ever thought of luck in the chamber on snipers idea.

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              • Auto rifles are still shit and never got a buff. Fusions still get nerfed every f'n patch. The last word is a nusiamce and snipers are that but if a deal. I'm a better shot with the Irene and spindle. I wonder what'll be next once aim assist is nerfed and people are still sniping.

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              • Everything is fine. BUT snipers . Scouts aren't keeping pace (maybe mida - love that thing) but apart from that snipers are running rampant.

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                • Forgot about the fusion rifles. Love them to death but once again bungie said nah -blam!- fusion rifles.

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                • You know ppl are going to use any weapon in any video game that they can shoot really fast and spray n pray with. And what better gun to hold down r2 with? The last word.

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                  • I don't know dude. My Sunbreaker still feels amazing, and although the buff Auto Rifles got wasn't what we expected (and they probably should still get a slight buff in some archetypes) they would have been too good with the changes we originally read before the patch. Concerning matchmaking, you're probably just having a bit of bad luck right now: it happens to everyone.

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                  • I love how there is moments where the game slows down so much in crucible between lag shotgun nerf I don't know what the Hells wrong with it

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                  • So your idea of casual play is stomping on players of lesser skill?? I think your victims would disagree. Nothing fun or casual about getting humiliated.

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                    • You know sunbreaker used to be a OHK melee right? That nerf was absolutely needed. The AOE and cauterize rebalance was so that you can't walk into a room blindly throwing hammers and take on an entire team without a care in the world. As for the armor nerf, sunbreakers now have the same damage resistance as all the other wandering supers

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                    • Bro I thought I was the only one because my KD is dropping! I definitely feel the matchmaking and lag is definitely more apparent! In rumble I am constantly getting spawn killed to the point where it is no fun! But I guess I have to adapt and get better!

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                      • I agree with you, I was trying to get my kd to 2 and improve my dtr, but know that's impossible because every game is sweetie as -blam!-

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