Bungie, is your goal to just totally turn people off to PvE? You have not done a single patch for the raid that aids players in any shape or form. I'm convinced you made Destiny solely on hopes that people will play it for the PvP. Every patch you've made for the raid has been a punishment to us hardcore raiders. I refuse to run HM anymore after this DISGRACEFUL update today. I would love to see your stats on how many people complete the raid on HM now. The people in my clan who are new to raiding have to settle for a ghetto level 30 ( exotic helm and 3 raid pieces ) because it's so unlikely that they will complete a full Atheon kill run without resorting to stealing someone's checkpoint. Stop changing the mechanics of the raid, it was fine the way you had it at the time of its release...it actually worked BETTER. And to any haters who think I'm just some scrub who doesn't know what I'm talking about, I've completed more Hardmode raids than I can count. I've got two legit full raid geared toons ( Lock and Titan ). You have completely lost sight of the needs of players and solely focused on what YOU think needs to be done to the raid, ignoring the bugs in the raid that your terrible "patches" tried to fix. Get your ish together Bungie, otherwise you "10 year plan" won't make it past it's first 12 months.