Bumping his post again. Mr. W may not like exotics to be "better" than legendaries or for the raids to give elemental primaries, but he'd prob better rethink it all, cause his philosophy is boring.

You forgot it's boring as shit.

I miss leveling up weapons by just playing. It gave us a reason to do bounties. Screw this infusion crap. Why sacrifice a good weapon for another weapon? Why can't the blood of my enemies make my gun better?

Nightfalls aren't nightfalls anymore. New subclasses are cool, but you don't feel as powerful in general anymore. But for me it was the light system. Not rewarding. We all remember doing Vault 45 times to get a Fatebringer, or what have you, and when we got it, it was everything we hoped for. Now we do a raid 45 times to get a good item at a good roll, then 100 more times to infuse it to max level. -blam!- that.

You've hit on pretty much the major points. The two biggest ones for me were awful raid gear and the introduction of infusion. In year one, grinding to find weapons with better perks was more fun than grinding for infusion. When you find a weapon with better perks now its like, "Oh wonderful. All that work infusing my old weapon is pointless. Now I have a new weapon to start infusing." I didn't need another reason to grind. I'm not sure if anyone else feels this way, but in the old days of Destiny, when I reached max level I didn't stop grinding. I grinded for better perks or different weapons. Or I simply played because there was a lot of end game content to play. Now a player needs to grind endlessly to simply reach max light level or grind weeks to level up a weapon you already own. This is why I stopped playing shortly after Y1. A real life equivalent for me is the difference between running outside and running on a treadmill. Both are working towards the same goal, but when I run outside I'm actually going places and seeing new things. I'm not running in place.

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Here, just to add a bit more :) What made me quit and how most feel, but don't express it. 10-1-15 (([b]There is a lot to read[/b])) but it is the reality on how this game needs major help and maybe a couple that i put in that could help. Bungie does have the wish list, so there is no excuse to not improve this game. Now sparrow racing after a year of the community asking for it but only 3 weeks. This justifies a year and almost 5 months of hell BUNGIE? Oh, and guess what? It's only for the gamers that have the taking king. This is where Bungies future in this game is literally heading, and it is wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuVR9DVZk-c Curious, with no expansion coming out. Do we have to pay for the small events that was mentioned in this interview? http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/8/9871646/destiny-bungie-dlc-microtransactions-taken-king-year-two Bungie put out all kinds of lies. Grinding has tripled and they literally said they reduce the grinding in Ttk. Really? Exotics weaker then rear's. Regrinding for exotics i already have. Year two exotics don't work in year two, but year one exotics worked in year one. Making events like, weekly heroic strike, nightfall, raid, quest etc to where the boss's and a few minions take more damage while we do less damage to them compared to year one. When in year one we destroyed things and actually had fun. Bungie lied about that they made a whole new arsenal to help us out through this game. Only to find out i'm dismantling 3 times the amount of weapons then i did in year one. Also lied and said Ttk was like a full game and i would feel more powerful. Um, i actually feel weaker and the only time i felt more powerful was before the first nerf on all year one weapons. Removing content Bungie and replacing it with other content is not a full new game. Just curious. Where is the necrochasm? Its part of Crota's story Bungie? Whoops! my bad, there is no story. [spoiler]love running backwards through missions i already done a thousand times. [/spoiler] The RNG is twice as bad compared to year one. No ingame tools. [quote]How about Honest Game Trailers and no more over hyped sales pitch's: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUIvhQPPCRg[/url][/quote] No dedicated servers. No open world. No HOW raid. http://blogs-images.forbes.com/insertcoin/files/2015/04/house-of-wolves.jpg No customisation. No upgrading your sparrow. Meaning Bungie can't come up with one new idea on one small thing to make this game a little more fun? No clan activities. Wait! My bad. One raid weekly reset and crucible? No private PvP game modes. No vehicles. No trading. No optional matchmaking. No respect. No end to the repetitive shit bungie makes us do. No infusing exotic class items. Wait! They just did it. Almost 5 months later after paying $20 for it. Okay Deej. Need i say more? No real communication. Meaning no heads up on what's happening. Just drop it on the community and tell them to deal with it. A year latter even though Bungie advertised this little guy waving in a video as if he new exactly where his friend was. Bungie implanted this (but still didn't get it right) A year later Bungie? No appreciation. Wait! My bad. The triumph. That even if you weren't a day one player you could still do it and get rewarded and get a stupid looking emblem that everybody is (embarrassed) to put on their profile. Removing content and replacing it in every area on ever planet and call it new content? Removing content and forcing players to buy the next thing to continue even though they paid $100 for content they cant play that was removed for not buying ttk? How's the UK doing Bungie? Or any state for that matter out of the US. system. http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/15/10210066/destiny-level-boost-microtransaction Blaming last gen for the reason they couldn't add vault space last year. Talk about pissing players off lol. Saying last gen couldn't handle it. Bungie made that statment in a weekly update. But yet pulled it out of their ass when ttk came out? Funny thing is, Bungie still holds last gen for the reason not being able to add thing. (Cutting content is actually the main problem in this game) There is a lot and ill say that again. A Lot of data in a game and its sensitive to even be playing around with it. When you cut content you are cutting info that effect different parts of this game and when you don't do it right. YOU GET MAJOR GLICHES LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO ATHEON AND CROTA. literally nerfing ever single -blam!-ing thing there is to nerf in this game. The post on this forum that literally and ill say that again (literally) shows every problem there is in this game.You cant hide this Bungie by adding new things and not fixing whats wrong. IT WILL ALWAYS SHOW UP IN YOUR GAME ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. Not separating PvP from PvE. The main reason why so many stupid decision on the nerfs in this game and it has destroyed the PvE aspect of this games experience. Resetting leveling system and leveling resetting yet to come. Vanguard marks. Um, thought there was a unlimited reset to them? Thanks for the misleading you did on Twitch Deej ;) by the way Deej. Where is the content that you can actually do this? Flakes. Are you -blam!-ing kiding me! Spend literally days grinding for them only to get (NOTHING) for that time spent. How many times did Bungie expect me to do this? Kings fall is nothing but a copy and paste of Vog and Crota. Exotics class items that cost $20? Gun pack that was only greens.Well, i did get glimmer for that last statement, as if i really needed that. (Find a friend?) Another joke on us. What you are actually saying is, help you make money but you are only going to give us useless things we can get at tower? Exotic class items all over again. As if ill ever give you another penny for useless shit thats not going to help anyone in this game. Red bullshit. Silver with RNG. Nice! But guess what? You can't earn them. Removed reforge Removed blue flame on helmet Removing exotic quest from the vanguard vendor. Only to get useless exotics in a different matter. Like forcing PvE gamers to play PvP quest. You know what Bungie? You seem to really like (REMOVING) a lot of content, but you don't like to add content. Maybe you guys should of done this. https://youtu.be/eBERVWYa-1Y Time gate. People have a life you know? We are not all little kids or teens. Grinding in PvP to get loot that actually takes the fun away in PvP because it puts a condition on it. Its getting gamers hopes up and putting high expectations on it knowing your RNG doesn't work in this game. But you sure know how to force it to do what you want. Like you just did this week in IB ;) And gamers say its something that will always be random LMFAO... Xur, a noobs dream up until a couple months latter when they realize they are just getting the same shit over and over and over. Xur selling year one exotics? Xur not having quest like you said he would, and Game Informer printed it on their magazine. Where are the quest Bungie? i love all the lies you keep putting out ;) Xur giving you the exact same exotic you just got from doing the nightfall. Or night fall giving you the exact exotic you just bought from xur. This happens all to many times. Nightfall's rewarding system just majorly sucks. Glitches, numerous error codes, disconnection, getting kicked back to home page on your system? Not to mention this game can literally freeze up your system. REALLY?? what game in the 21st century does this? These thing you see and what i posted are literally flooding this forum. Quest glitches, missions glitches, crucible glitches that keep happening that haven't been fixed. Gliches that dont reward ya. Basically they are there but only met to keep us grinding. 20 different light levels to one weapon in kings fall? Vog, one drop and you got a weapon. How them flakes boys? Wish list that has been up for over a year and 10 more things were added this last week or two. "We hear ya loud and clear" "we are listening" "ill bring this to the devs" and i believe the tooth fairy is real. Fixing things like the 3 of coins drops. But -blam!- fixing things that are -blam!-ing up this game and have been for over a year? The list literally goes on and and on and on and on. I cant see how Bungie isn't ashamed of themselves on how -blam!-ed up this game is and not do whats right. No game in the last ten years has had this many problems and many more in one year that i know of. [b]BUNGIE, SHOWING SOME RESPECT AND SOME ACTUAL APPRECIATION CAN GO A LONG WAYS. JUST A THOUGHT.[/b] And the best for last. Taking this from Lost Sols lol TTK was coming out and there was no, and ill say that again. No $40 TK deal. You had the unlimited edition and collectors edition. $80 or more if you wanted the exotic class items you had to rebuy all the content you already had. So in all, you just bought an $80 TK. That's because the exotic class items were useless until 5 months later. Bungie held the $40 deal out as long as they could. They Kept on lying to us on updats that the $40 deal was coming out. Basically forcing players that wanted the exotic class items to have to spend $80. Here's the kicker. Prior to ttk coming out Bungie didn't mention one time that there was going to be a $40 deal. So here comes Lost Sols looking up the $40 deal after a month or so of Bungie lying to us, and they finally came out and said they were doing a $40 deal. I love this part :) The app for the $40 deal was hidden in another app. Meaning, who the -blam!- would think to look in an app that has nothing to do with TTK? And how long did Bungie hold out on puting out the $40 TTK. A month? Two months? Bungie at their best^^^^^ What will bring me back? A miracle!

Ttk has been the most anti social of all the dlc. It's causing fragmentation within the community and clans, nobody wants to do the raid, night fall, strikes, mission stories, quests, or crucible. Bottom line, the only thing that kept us playing in year one was the social aspect in spite of all the games negatives, and ttk has completely ruined that. It's not fun in any regard now. It'd be interesting to know player count over the last few months.

I can't say that I've fully quit playing Destiny, but I haven't logged on in months for many of the reasons you state. The clan I was in got fractured by Taken King thanks to the Light Level requirements, and the whole RNG never dropping the pieces of gear needed in order to progress further. Second, the infusion system is a joke seeing as I have to piss away good legendries just to upgrade an exotic that already should be more powerful that a legendary in the first place. Third seeing as there is no matchmaking for raiding I can't get a group, because the sites I'm told to use all seem to mostly have people with elitist attitudes, and want you to jump through all these hoops to prove your useful. Fourth the Nightfall is a joke, and how this has no matchmaking is beyond me. Why should the Nightfall be the exception to the rules where all strikes have matchmaking? Fifth, everything good keeps getting nerfed into oblivion, because as everyone says Bungie can't separate PvE from PvP. What's so hard about this? If ArenaNet can do this with Guild Wars, and Blizzard can do it with WoW why can't it be done here? I'm not buying into the BS of the resources or technology isn't there without altering the whole game, because if games such as those can do it without really affecting anything why can't it be done here? I hope Bungie has been paying attention to the Division Beta, because if they structured Destiny to incorporate elements such as rotating vendors, and a not so broken RNG the game might be salvageable, but that's a big MIGHT.

RNG is what burns me out the most. hours, days, weeks of grinding. for what? nothing. Nightfall rewards are a -blam!-ing joke. i dont even do it anymore unless im crazy bored. The Iron Grind? i only do it to get the shit Saladin sells to collect. nevermind i get rank 5 in 3 days, still grind the rest of the week, and the most i get is a ghost shell 20 points weaker than what i already have. seriously. whole new loot system, you'll see an genuine turn-around in customer satisfaction. how many of us are $120 into this game already? let al

Destiny has only gone up in player count. So I don't know where you get your information on people quitting.