First off, I mained a Titan since day 1. I have gotten all three classes to max during VoG then promptly deleted them, made all titans, left destiny in the middle of TDB through the entirety of HoW, saw the new subclasses, came back shortly after the release of TTK, and started the other two classes again. They no longer have any appeal to me, other than cosmetic, since my boy got that fire. Pvp was, dare i say it?-broken for titans y1 as far as supers go. I've been killed mid FoH by anything you can think of, not to mention the panic supers that kill nothing, and the "bubble" is a joke without the y2 helm of Saint 14. It's my belief that every class has their "god mode", but let's be honest, you don't have EVERYTHING. For example, if you look closely at the perks for sunbreaker, you cannot have regen health and sunspot for overshield, you cannot track targets and create sunspots to stand in so you can throw more hammers nor shoulder charge. [spoiler] Shoulder charge? ...shoulder charge...idk... [/spoiler] But know this, I am ecstatic, ECSTATIC, that upon hearing the hammer come down, my foes in the crucible finally know fear. I have also been tazed, gunned down, chopped up, cooked crispy, chewed up, and spat out using HoS as well. Now, finally, in y2, in certain situations, with the right perks any classes subclass can totally wipe a large banquet hall with ease. Even the titans. *edit: wow, the hate. It's funny how people respond to only certain words which are written. I'm not saying titans don't need nerfing. They do- I thought saying they were op in the title would make that clear. -and they're getting it, but saying they have regen health AND overshield at anytime is false and an impossibility. You are unable to equip the regeneration perk AND overshield simultaneously. Personally I prefer simmering flames to either. I can lob a grenade every 12 seconds when my super is charged with max discipline.