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11/15/2015 9:50:01 PM
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Forcing Players into PvP
I've been playing Destiny since the beginning. For the most part I love the game, especially some of the improvements that happened with The Taken King.
However, the one thing I HATE about Destiny and that I've always hated is that it forces players into PvP matches. I would love to see every quest a hard divide between PvP and PvE. Unless a quest originates with Crucible, Iron Banner or Trials of Osiris then there will never be a part of the quest that requires you to play in any PvP match. Also, stop having Exotic Item quests tie into PvP.
I'm the first to admit it. I'm not the best PvP player out there. But I'll never be the best or even in the top 50%. So quests like Imprecation and Jolly Holliday are extremely frustrating and impossible for a player like me to finish. And because they're impossible for me to complete they frustrate me with the game and make me not want to play the game. If I wanted to be killed over and over again by other players I'd go play Call of Duty or Counter Strike again.
Please re-do these kinds of quests (like Imprecation and Jolly Holliday specifically but any quest that starts as PvE and/or rewards you with an Exotic Item) so that they are completely PvE quests and no longer require the futility of playing PvP.
Let the people who like and want to play PvP play PvP, let those of us who want nothing to do with PvP avoid that part of the game and play through the story and enjoy the PvE content.
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1 ReplyForcing players into either mode to attain gear is not the answer. There should be 2 quest lines for each object step - one PVE and one PVP. It will not happen, however, as Bungie needs to bump the stats on their server-less lagfest of a PVP to meet contract requirements. So putting quest / bounty elements in PVP artificially inflates the number of real PVP players. It sucks, but then, so much of this game has been mangled to meet contract requirements.
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6 RepliesMeanwhile, in order to compete in end game pvp, you have to play the raid in order to get above 300 light. I'll break it down: Pve players have to play pvp in order to get a sword. Pvp players have to play and succeed in end game pve in order to compete in end game pvp. A good comparison would be if you had to succeed in trials in order to play the raid. So stop whining.
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I'd rather do a few pvp matches than kill 500 enemies with a handcannon while using a telemetry.
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I love this post xD I've played a handful of online shooters. And I really have only enjoyed a couple. I'm just not a PvP guy, but I understand why people are. But Bungie should respect that some people don't like playing PvP. Some people wanna kill off their enemies at a slow and stress free pace. The thing that is really torturous for the PvP haters is the viscous cycle: The more you hate PVP, the more you suck at it, which means the less kills you're able to get, which means the longer you gotta play it, and you'll hate it even more . . . And on and on
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I got The First Curse without boosting, and i agree with you. It wasnt even fun. Im not a dedicated PvPer but i was lucky enough to have a good match. Thats not the right way to have players grind.
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I'm with you. I am HORRIBLE at pvp. But I don't want my limitations to affect another's enjoyment. I think they should have pvp specific quest and/or pve specific quest. The concept is grinding for "that one unattainable gun". That rush you get once it's all said and done is second to none.
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I love pvp but had to go through that rediculous grind to get my exotic sword. Guess that should be taken out too cuz it's not fair I don't want to do that.
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24 RepliesWell I feel the opposite. I hate pve , should all exotic that drop from pve be removed because I don't want to play it?
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32 RepliesIt seems that only the casuals complain about this. It's not hard if you actually have skill.
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2 RepliesJolly Holliday starts as a PvP quest. The Chaperone is a PvP oriented exotic, there are too many shotguns out there that are simply better at PvE. So that quest should be a PvP - centric quest. Plus once you get past the first part, you can complete the rest of it in PvE, it will just take longer. So I can't agree with you on that one. Imprecation is mildly ridiculous with 7 precision kills in one game with a weapon class whose accuracy has been nerfed into the ground. I don't mind the PvP aspect of that, but it is unattainable for a lot of people and I'll agree it should be looked at.
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1 ReplyEdited by DiagnosedGhost: 11/17/2015 4:07:26 PMI play a lot of PvP and at the moment if there was a PvE option for exotics I will choose the PvE option over PvP 95% of the time. The PvE options are simply easier. If Bungie did give us the option to choose PvE or Pvp the challenge would need to equally difficult and and in the case guns like thorn or chaperone equally aggravating for the average guardian (i.e. dying sets back progress) For example. One step could be kill five different PvE bosses. 1. Any strike boss 2. Atheon 3. Crota 4. Skolas 5. Oryx Requirements. 1. Each kill gives 25 points 2. For raid bosses points will only be awarded if the rest of the raid has been completed that week (no spawning at the boss) 3. Each death you lose two points 4. Once you reach 100 points you win 5. Bosses have to be killed in order 1 then 2 then 3 ..... 6. Once you kill a boss you cannot fight it again unless you fall below a point value that will be required to complete the mission (i.e. You are trying to kill oryx but fall below 75 points. If that happens Skolas will become available again.) For the solo option choose Pvp.
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Bump.
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I agree not a fan of online PvP. The quest are better suited for other characters and you can't exchange them between your characters, Would love that option. But for the most part you can go all day trying to get them exotic weapons that are not that good and if they are people b!+c# and complain for them to be nerfed. It's not really worth it IMO.
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3 RepliesNobody is forcing u to do anything
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2 RepliesJust boost like the other people who can't do it.
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1 ReplyTranslation: [i]"How dare they make us play the game for rewards in-game!"[/i]
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6 RepliesNobody forces you lol you clearly have a choice. Either play the pvp portion to get the weapon or not do it and not get the weapon. Need to get out your comfort zone and earn lord shaxx respect
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2 RepliesI suck at pvp but I managed to Complete the Imprecation Pvp part without even realizing it. It's better if you complete them in rumble.
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I don't play PvP much either, don't really like it, and I agree , it would be so easy to make branching quests for these thing to keep PVE and PVP happy
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They said they would start combining the quests in Pvp
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4 RepliesEdited by Luchs76: 11/16/2015 1:29:47 PMpvp is the real and natural game. the whole world plays games in a competitive manner, table tennis, chess, cards, streetball happens on the streets. why choosing bots, mechanizms, ideas and not your own species to compete with? an awkward attitude.
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Edited by Agent York: 11/15/2015 9:52:50 PMThis will never change. At least until the next DLC announcement. Where they say it will but it still won't.
