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Edited by Xandierious:
10/12/2015 1:51:17 PM
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PVP Shotguns Have WAY Too Much Range Still!
I can't stand this ongoing issue! I'm still getting 1 shot at too long of a range with the Felwinter's, Madator, Party Crasher, Conspiracy Theory, etc with the Rangefinder perk.
These specific shotguns need to have their max kill ranges pulled back, or else this isn't going to get better. I still struggle to use my primary as much as I would like to because the range is encouraging people to get in close enough to pull off a semi-ranged shot, and will go to extremes to do so.
Guess I'm dusting off my Felwinter's again until this gets fixed.
EDIT: I'm perceiving the current kill range to be around 10ft, and I am proposing the kill range be about 8ft instead, so if you think my measurements are inaccurate then use the ratio I'm implying. Somewhere between Found Verdict and Invective's kill range would be a great balance.
EDIT: Pizza and chill suggests that PVP shotgun range should be increased significantly, and it's impact be reduced so it takes more than 1 shot to kill. This makes sense since a body shot from any sniper doesn't kill a player due to shields, so I just had to share his innovative solution.
UPDATE: I removed Shot Package as a problematic perk because it's being removed from old and new shotguns with it equipped in the next patch.
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Only some of em. Party crasher can't hit anything that isn't point blank these days
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1 ReplyEdited by LIQUIID swordz: 10/16/2015 5:57:11 PMScream like a baby shot guns boo hoo nerf them. 7wks later.. Shotguns are now useless everyone screams and crys that fusions are op
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What they really need to do is nerf the damage on all year one guns. It's terrible when you see more year one guns in crucible than year two's. They shouldn't do half of the damage a year two gun does, that will fix most issues with crucible.
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They won't be needing shotguns anymore. They said people will need to learn and adapt because shotguns will always be deadly in pvp
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We need to just get rid of that archetype of gun completely
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3 RepliesIt's not the ranges it's the impact on them. To nerf shotgun range would make my favorite ones even worse. The high impact bs guns have ruined my ability to use secret hand shake, doa or the old crash
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1 ReplyI swear they have more range
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1 ReplyMy god, it seems like a lot of you are -blam!-ing [i]terrified[/i] that Shotguns might get nerfed.
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Edited by TreeMan_X: 10/11/2015 5:39:21 PMNAO not my shoot pakage felweenters li hao cood u
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1 ReplyI wish people would really stop bitching about Shotguns. It goes with your overall impact and the amount of range. Like a bullet drop off. The range is perfectly fine on shotguns. Shot package is going, and rangefinder has been nerfed. After experimentation, Hot Swap which is to increase accuracy is a range boost. It's perfectly balanced to the point that it's a 5 second buff. Get used to it, shotguns are there to deal massive damage at close range. Do you want them to shoot confetti instead?
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39 RepliesShotguns should have a range BUFF. But there's a catch... (Lowering Impact) Bungie has got it all wrong in their methods of nerfing shotguns. They just keep reducing the range to shit but the range isn't why people hate shotguns. The REAL reason people hate shotguns is that it can kill you instantly, with one mindless pull of the trigger. They can reduce the range down to 1ft but people will still complain about it killing in one hit. The solution: make shotguns kill in TWO shots but increase the range If a sniper rifle can't 1 shot you in the body then a shotgun shouldn't either. Increasing the range makes sense because a real shotgun shot doesn't just stop after 10ft. The slow fire rate of shotguns would balance the higher range stat if they were two hit kills. The spread of the pellets at further distances would even make shotguns a 3 shot. This would also make players weigh their options more in choosing perks. Do you want shot package? (To reduce spread and ensure a consistent 2 shot) Do you want range finder? (To get kills at longer distances but you would have to hit them 3 times) Do you want full auto? (To increase fire rate and get the two hit kill off quicker) I believe this is the way to fix shotguns. No one complains about the Lord Of Wolves because it is a two shot with longer range. And you can get a ton of kills with it really easily but still no one complains because it's not an instant kill.
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10 RepliesA 12 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot can put a grapefruit sized hole through a man at 15 yards. If anything, the kill range for shotguns in Destiny is laughably low.
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1 ReplyDude. Maybe instead of run and gunning with a primary or a sniper HANG BACK AND USE THE DISTANCE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. Honestly shotguns wouldn't be a problem if you guys could actually have some skill and not run and gun. I personally use shotguns because idiots like you run around with red death or last word thinking you can tank a weapon that is SPECIFICALLY FOR CQB. Seriously stop making it shotguns have to be in your -blam!-ing character model to kill them. Shot guns in real life and kill you from 10-15 ft. Stop trying to go up and up with a weapon that is used for CLOSE QUATERS COMBAT. Damn man
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4 RepliesI'm so sick of players exaggerating shotguns range in this game most shotguns only have 1-2m range, if you get killed further away that that chances are you weren't at full health. Each special weapon class apart from side arms has one shot killing potential so shotguns are fine in my opinion. Anyone who claims they get sniped by fellwinters is lying. No pun intended.
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2 RepliesMuahahahahaha
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4 RepliesJust play trials/iron banner then there's no old shotguns there only going to be new ones and the new shotguns don't have any range
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5 RepliesEdited by LilBlkCloud: 10/10/2015 5:25:41 PMWhy don't we just take all perks off shotguns. Hell, let's just make all shotguns gray quality drops. That'll get you to shut your mouth, right? Nerf them into the fûcking ground. Getting shot package removed isn't enough for you. Now you're targeting rangefinder. Do tell, what's next on your list? Are you a millennial?
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4 RepliesYou whining crucibabies ruin everything with your "wah, nerf it" demands. Bungie should make it that you can only use Banshee's test weapons in the crucible. But I'm sure the "wah, nerf it" demands would still be posted. :-\
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8 RepliesExtreme range kills with a shotgun are rare, most are within acceptable ranges. Not running around a blind corner is a nice start. How much buckshot do you need to catch in the face before you learn that sprinting everywhere you go in a combat arena is a bad plan?
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5 RepliesThanks guys now shotguns are useless my 310 consistory thearly d is useless I loved running round one shoting people with it at close range half the time I was beaten by a longer range shotgun but I still loved just blaming people in one go oh well I just if to use my other one with armour pricing and range increase perk.
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1 ReplyI think that they are fine. But everything else should be on par with it
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2 RepliesThey need balance the shotguns by having the high impact = close range and low impact = long range
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6 RepliesHow about play a different game for PvP? If you don't like it, why should everything be changed to comfort you? It's like having a new girlfriend that you hate everything about. Just dump her and find someone that suits you.
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1 Reply/bump shotgun takes no skill. Remove rangefinder as well.
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2 RepliesIf you are being killed by shotguns a lot try a different strategy in crucible. Some maps shotguns cant be avoided but other maps you can easily put yourself in a place where it is hard to be hit with a shotgun. Just trying to be helpful!
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5 RepliesThe shotguns work like how they would in real life. Oh no. I don't have a problem with it. And I don't run the long range shotguns in crucible either. Does everybody complain about everything here?
