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8/28/2015 1:19:12 PM
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Crucible Analysts! What do you think the new pvp meta will be?

Hey Guardians! I wanna hear from you crucible killers, gods and scientists. Give me your breakdown of what you think the new meta will be! I know there's a whoooollleee new set of weapons coming so this is deep into speculation territory. However I do think based on the current pvp and the weapon balancing notes, an idea of how the new pvp meta will play out can be gleaned. What will be the top tier weapons? What will be the best class of weapon? What will happen to shotguns? Just examples. Let's see what you got! I'll crown the person with the best analysis here in the original post after they stop comin in.

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  • Edited by mentalyentil: 8/30/2015 4:20:40 AM
    I feel as though exotic hand cannons will still be very viable, albeit from [i]slightly[/i] shorter range. Next to that I can see high impact pulse rifles continuing to be a go to, so not much of a change there. Scout rifles will still be extremely rare, as they are decreasing hip fire accuracy and generally making them fit more into a long range position. There aren't many maps where long range fights happen. There may be a rise in auto rifle usage. I can see the changes they're applying to the SUROS Regime making it a popular choice, as well as a viable one. It has appropriately been dubbed a "mini-thunderlord" and I'm looking forward to testing it out in the new crucible. EDIT: to explain the [i]new[/i] SUROS a bit - with its coming higher ROF option, not only will it increase its ROF the longer you fire, you'll still have the Glass Half Full perk, so it'll increase in damage as it increases in rate of fire. Could be an extremely deadly combo. It appears as though shotguns will still be a good option for a lot of players. The range decrease will certainly effect just how deadly they are though - from the limited gameplay we've seen it looks like you'll need to be [i]very[/i] close for a one shot kill, or go with a shotgun/melee combo. Fusion rifles seem to be a toss up. They may take over the special slot for those who were very fond of mid range shotgun sniping, as that will likely not be a thing anymore. However, they will require better handling skill, as well as decent drag aiming to make the best use out of them. I can see them being very effective in the right hands. It's possible you'll see a bit more sniping if there is a drop off to shotgun usage, but I'm thinking sidearms will be a major force in the new crucible. From the gameplay we saw during the Rift competition, sidearms seemed to be the most popular special choice amongst the players. I'm looking forward to seeing a diversity in sidearms choices, and seeing how that plays out. Depending on how the Grenades and Horseshoes perk is adjusted, you could see a drop off in rocket launcher usage. The current meta is quite lazy work of rockets. You just need to aim kind of close and typically it'll work out. If, say, they halve the effective range of the perk, I think high impact LMGs will be largely popular. This is, however, only speculation. We'll have to see how the perk plays out. In summary, I still feel hand cannons, specifically exotics, will still be very prevalent, along with high impact pulse rifles. I think shotgun usage will drop, if only slightly, and likely be replaced with sidearm usage. I also think you could see a rise in LMG usage. I may be way off base here, but either way I'm excited to see what happens!

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    • Scouts and high impact pulse rifles

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    • Return of suros. Era of red death

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    • Age of pulse rifles

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    • High-impact pulse rifles

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      Don't care what it is. I will always stick with my Monte Carlo and Mida. They are both good now as well.

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    • Pulse/auto

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    • Auto rifles at beginning Then hopefully balance out My reason People are thinking hard light is about to be OP cause they all tend to read the meta wrong Hard light is my favorite gun But. They think it has no drop off and they think it's going to be back like it was with auto rifles That is not the case. Read patch notes again guys And I will be using ARs and hopefully doing better with them hoping thorn and last word won't be able to shut you down so fast Hard light has no drop of ???? OK the bullets bouncing off the walls will not. But the ones who have not bounced of will So in order for them not to have drop off u must first have them bounce off that's what people are not getting the suros regime will not be restored to its former glory and in my opinion after focus fire should be called a auto scout rifle not a AR

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    • Edited by Silly: 8/30/2015 7:50:15 AM
      Lol at ppl who are only after metas, how about weaponise yourself with your own meta. In League of Legends, the meta is more stable and acceptable and still, the ppl who breaks it are the best so try and do so not going around looking for next scrub mode.

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      • You talk like the pvp in this game is any good.Its derivative garbage and no true pvp gamer would really pay it any attention.I let my six year old play mine.

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          This is probably a dumb question but I see people using the word "meta" all the time? What does that mean?

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          • I just hope they fix the servers. Iron banner was so broken this week. Can you imagine all of the lag switching and other issues every week as people to for nightfall like drops.

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            • Auto, pulse, shotty

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            • Pulse rifles and auto rifles with side arm for smaller maps. Hand cannon nerf means side arms new meta. Big maps like shores of time people will sit at back of maps with scout rifles. Blink sidearms will become popular, blink last word. Hand cannons with reduced range , may as well use side arm Some will use sniper + last word

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            • Edited by OuroborosWrath: 8/30/2015 9:39:25 AM
              Tired and I thought meta was medal... Ignore my post haha

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              • Me getting my arse handed to me oh sorry that is the current meta

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              • 40% -Pulse 30% -Hand Cannon 25% -Auto 5% -Scout Supers by tier T1: Hammer of Sol Void Bow Golden Gun T2: Bladedancer Fist of Havoc Nova Bomb Radiance T3: Ward of Dawn Stormtrance 60% -Sidearms 15% -Sniper 15% -Shotgun 10% -Fusion 90% -Rocket 10% -LMG

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                • High impact pulse rifles will be king 50% Exotic handcannons will slowly decline (30% dropping to 20%) Autorifles will slowly rise (5% rising to 20%) Scout Rifles will remain dormant until MIDA 2.0 hits then will rise (5% up to 10%)

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                • Why can't people understand you are using meta incorrectly???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????........?

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                • [b]Hard Light[/b] You will cry, just wait and see. The Hard Light is Thorn 2.0

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                  • After watching that redbull rift exhibition it looks like it will be pulses and sidearms. The shotguns looked weak, snipers will always be viable if you have a steady hand. Literally the only primary all 10 players used was a suros pulse. At least it's a change.

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                    • Pulse rifles Side arms Machine guns become more relevant.

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                    • It's gonna come down to Pulse Rifles honestly. I know for a fact that legendary hand cannons will have no place in this games PvP. I have a feeling they nerfed them too hard. The exotic hand cannons however I feel like they will still be viable. I'm only concerned about how The Last Word will perform. The whole magazine size, stability and range nerfs might be a little too hard on it. The return of Auto Rifles should be interesting. I honestly missed seeing them in the crucible. Not Suros. I don't miss seeing Suros. It should still be interesting. My main hope is to see Mida rise above the rest. Scout rifles have been underrated since launch. I hope this update gives them enough wiggle room to be viable options in the upcoming meta game.

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                      • Bad juju

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                      • MIDA Multi Tool, Red Death, Messenger Probably Red Death because it is coming with us into year 2 but for standard Crucible all 3!

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                      • Scouts and pulses will be the top primaries to fill the lack of range on shotguns and sidearms

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