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8/23/2015 7:55:04 PM
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The Awoken are the True Enemy
Quite a blunt statement, I know. Naming the Awoken as enemies of the Tower is quite a stretch, given the generosity that has been shown the Guardians recently. Hopefully in this explanation of some grimoire cards I can show why this generosity might have an ulterior motive.
Not many people take the time to read grimoire cards. Yes, we love to earn them in order to flaunt a higher number than other people, but we generally don't care about the lore that is behind them. In these cards you can read about anything from a specific Fallen gun to the backstory of Skolas. However, we can also find hints of future developments in these cards. So, if you've got nothing better to do, follow along as I explain why I think the Awoken will be the cause of the Tower's downfall. I highly suggest you follow along with me by reading the entirety of the cards I quote.
Places > The Asteroid Belt > Prison of Elders, The Reef.
This card is Cayde-6, Hunter Vanguard, narrating the Queen's use for the Prison of Elders. This is one of the paragraphs from the card.
"Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too. No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work. Cutthroat politics! And who's the best at cutthroat politics? That's right, her Majesty, the Queen of the Reef."
This is just a sample from the card, but it goes on to explain the entire story. One common theme throughout this card is that the Queen of the Awoken is dangerously good at ‘cutthroat politics.’ One tactic mentioned that was used by both Skolas and the Queen is creating strife between two rivals. Focus on the same paragraph I quoted before, but this time the first sentence.
“Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too.”
Earlier in the card there is an explanation of Skolas’ thought process as this was going on during the ‘civil war.’
“…if the Reef killed my boss, and gave me a chance at the throne, maybe I can use the Reef to kill all my rivals too!”
Using her rivals to kill off each other was the method by which the Queen forced the House of Wolves into her submission.
Why this vague history matters you might not realize. Later on in Cayde-6’s explanation of the Prison of Elders he explains that the Queen captured many abominations throughout the Reef and keeps these evils in the Prison. Cayde-6 makes his own subtle mentions at some reasons for this.
“Maybe the Queen wants Guardians in the Reef, to deter more unrest. Maybe the Queen wants intelligence on how her prizes fight.
Maybe she wants intelligence on how WE fight.”
Ominous, right? Here is the following statement that connects with what we said earlier.
“Whatever happens— I want you to remember that she knows, more than anyone else I've met, how to set one foe against another.”
When we look at the story line of the Expansion II, House of Wolves, we realize that this is exactly what she is doing. The House betrayed her, and is now running a muck who knows where, and rather than do her own dirty work she is calling in the Guardians to handle them, all the while learning how we fight. This follows her template of ‘cutthroat politics’ mentioned earlier.
“No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work.”
She is perfectly setting Guardians against the Fallen in order to avoid making the Awoken seem as powerful as they really are. And at the same time, she is learning how Guardians fight and is causing a great deal of distraction from the real Darkness. I mean, who wouldn’t choose to fight in an arena with awesome rewards as opposed to off somewhere fighting massive armies of the Darkness against which the most common reward is death?
So far, all of this is guesswork. Well, more of a hypothesis. Yes, I have evidence, but in reality all of this is merely an educated guess based on the evidence. However, another grimoire card displays the chilling scene of an interaction between Eris Morn and Prince Uldren, the Queen’s brother. This time I have copied the entire card, as it isn’t quite as long as the previous one.
Places > The Asteroid Belt > Ghost Fragment: The Reef
The attendant moves as Prince Uldren passes through the massive door separating the Outpost’s common area from the warren of tunnels that make up the Queen’s Bay.
He rounds a corner and a poorly maintained hatch opens for him, clunking and groaning as it separates. The room beyond is dark, shadowed.
He steps through, and the hatch shudders closed behind him. A series of dim illumination panels flicker on. He is not alone.
Three dull green lights blaze to life behind a veil. She tilts her head to consider the Prince, face like a marble carving.
"You." Her voice resonates inside small chamber.
"Say what you want and get out. We don’t have time for this right now."
"In the past, Her Majesty has seen fit to—"
"In the past, our nav lanes weren’t full of Guardians." Uldren snaps.
"Last I heard, your Queen was on the far end of the Belt."
"If the Guardians knew you and she were in contact, it would be detrimental to her plans."
The woman nodded, once. "Very well." She stood, slowly, drawing herself up to her full height in one smooth motion. "I come with word from beyond..."
The mysterious figure is no doubt Eris Morn, the representative for the Crota’s Bane faction in the Tower. What other female character has three glowing eyes behind a veil? More can be learned about her by reading about her in the grimoire and by listening to her while doing the missions for her in-game. Why is the Queen in contact with Eris Morn? I can’t find any answer for this that is more than a guess. Who is she bringing word from? Once again, we can only guess. (Let’s just hope that it isn’t a certain King we’ve all had our minds on lately…) However, we do have some evidence for why Eris might be looking for contacts outside the Tower.
References for the evidence on Eris Morn are in-game things she has said, and the statements in the grimoire card “Allies > Tower Allies > Crota’s Bane
Eris Morn was once a Guardian. That should be fairly obvious, based on the fact that she’s the hipster of the Crota raid. (She failed at it before it was cool.) Her card mentions that she lost her Ghost in this failed raid. Upon losing her Ghost Eris was forced to hide in the Darkness of the Moon. She lived off of it for “countless cycles” as the card says.
“Despite all odds she endured, using the very dark she battled to emerge a changed warrior—driven, some would say obsessed.”
Eris Morn, according to this card, used the Darkness itself to escape. Shifty business, huh? It gets worse. The Speaker and Commander Zavala (Titan Vanguard) both believe that she has been “fully seduced by the shadows.” The card also states that her warnings of Crota are often deemed “madness.”
So, think about it. A Guardian who lost her Ghost, survived off of the Darkness the Hive live off for years, and returned to the Tower to warn them about it only to be scoffed at as crazy might have just a tiny little bit of contempt. And if the Speaker is to be trusted, she might just be as much as an agent of Darkness as she looks.
I look forward to hearing feedback about this theory and some ideas about what might be the answers to the numerous questions this theory has raised.
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All these theory gave me a headache. I just want the whole story to be told on next dlc, but that's too much to ask for.
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2 RepliesAwoken are guardians so it wouldn't make sense, as well as per ttk the reef's army us decimated and they rely on the tower and guardians to help them recover. Prince uldren I assume will take the throne and he does dislike guardians. But he's a dick, not suicidal
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We are here, we're awoken and we're outspoken!!!!!
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1 Reply((potential spoilers)) "this generosity might have an ulterior motive." ^the simple answer to that...of course it does. nothing..nothing a monarch especially a Queen ever ever ever ever ever does is free or what it appears to be. ever. period. Everything she has done has been to serve her own people and her own interests. She is both light and dark. She came to the throne most speculate/remember through ruthlessness and eliminate any right anyone else may have had to the throne. She considers the Awoken her true family since whatever happened to them all during the collaspe. She is still upset that some Awoken went back to earth when they heard of survivors to help build the last City and part of her still wants to reunite her people all under her and gather them all back together. The answers to why she helped save the City causing the Reef Wars to start in the process, is also simple. The City was growing and some of her people were there and its a potential future ally, and earth is her and her people former home besides. if she let the wolves go to earth, they would almost guarranteed have wiped out the City for good. The reef sent ships and stopped the wolves both to help us survive that battle, and we still barely did and had to contract the City's boundaries after so many losses. If she were to let the City die, she'd not only be losing a potential ally and she may come to regret that later, but also at the same time, if they united and wiped out earth, that might cohesively bind the fallen together for good again into one group, and they might come after her then or mess up her other plans. the way it ended up happening she gained an ally in the city, kept the fallen race fractured as it had been, and asserted her power by manipulating everything and by having minimal losses of her own forces while at the same time defending the city, subjugating arguably the most powerful fallen house and bringing them under her banner, impressing her own people immensely in this process, and through the reef wars with the wolves and the fallen, she won away control of the entire asteroid belt/reef from the fallen so that her realm was now the entire reef instead of a small part of it where they had been hiding building up since the collapse without revealing they even existed. then while the exo stranger manipulated us into seeing the awoken, the Queen has manipulated us and controlled the entire game story ever since then. the Queen acted cold as if she didn't care, but yet helped us with telling us we needed a gate lord's head, giving us the eye from the head, telling us how to get to the black garden, to beware the exclusion zone, etc, and in exchange for her benevolence we are now bound to help/serve/assist her... this was called in on during house of wolves.... partly she was betrayed, certainly with the attempt on her life and killing her guards.... but partly there are signs that the nine set that breakout and revolt in motion, but the important thing is the queen allowed it...she may have even intended it...as she choose very deliberately to send the nine skolas as a gift, in a way that made it clear it was a deliberately done action to send a message and cause a chain of events to unfold, all while making it seem like it was done flippantly after less then a second or two to think it over who to send them. This chain of events brought Petra back to the reef after her necessary punishment for getting the guardians killed with her mistake in the reef wars earth campaign against the fallen jeopardizing the queen's plan for future alliance with the city and making the speaker distrust the queen and awoken ever since. this chain of events also brought us back to the reef and back to Petra and the Queen, and we end up helping and helping and helping more, getting rewards, being ingratiated into reef society partly, etcetera. it also gave us more training, and gave the Queen more allies... the Queen & Eris have been friends and allies for along time as it turns out, and both have known for along time, Eris through her ties to the hive from being on the moon, the Queen through Eris and confirmed by the Nine and by her own Crows and other sources of strategic Intelligence, that Oryx was coming to our system. this whole time we have been being trained and groomed and prepared by the Queen and our focus shifted away from just protecting the City to protecting the whole System instead, so that we would be prepared in time for Oryx's arrival in the system. if this chain of events had not happened just so, the Guardians would have been still clinging to logic of never leaving the city and staying in there and protecting it only and not caring about anything/anyone else. thus the Awoken would be short an ally and whenever Oryx made it to earth we'd have been annihilated having been totally caught off-guard and un-prepared as Eris was viewed as a crackpot by the vanguard consensus and speaker. and it turns out they are still long-game planning, the Queen is pretending to be gone and pretending to have killed all the awoken in that defeat battle, because they are already planning for the next threat after Oryx. Only Rasputin has possibly a better grasp of the whole situation and better handle on the Strategies needed then the Queen of the Reef, and that is debatable. Also, i just now realized something.....when she says "my hidden friend" i assumed she meant Eris because of Eris being one of Ikora Rey's hidden, and because Eris later seems to be continuing the "plan" and even seems to be talking to Mara somehow saying "my Queen" but i just realized...the reef has a huge number of ties to the banished warlock Osiris, who is also either lost, dead, or simply in hiding/"hidden" depending on who you talk to.... wow my mind was just blown there, i totally missed that possibility, though i still think it was referring to Eris most likely
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Lies. We have not allies. Everyone is our enemies.
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The Traveler is the true enemy
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1 ReplyEdited by 6 speed: 8/23/2015 8:14:15 PMGood theory. It's obvious the awoken, specifically their queen are playing both sides of this war. [quote]ah yes the awoken, out there wavering between the light and the dark. A side most must be chosen little light, even if it's the wrong side.[/quote] That quote by the stranger says a lot and can be taken many ways. But how much do we trust the stranger? She's from the future, again obvious. And not to stray to far here, I'm sure her reluctance to share any concrete info has to be because if she did, she would be altering the time line and/or creating a new time line. How much are the awoken are our allies or foes for that matter? Time will tell. But the Queen is brutal in her practicality, if not down right makaveli in her thinking.
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The darkness is the true enemy.
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But the queen isn't a guardian, her mother was the star light and her father the dark.
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5 RepliesGood read. I wouldn't necessarily say they're the true enemy, but they definitely can't be trusted. I get confused sometimes with people's motives, so much so that I end up having to take a break from the lore otherwise my head will explode. Most recently, I re-watched the cutscene when we give the queen the gatelord's head, Uldren says something along the lines of "why help them? If you want them dead just kill them now!" But yet, during the battle of the Twilight Gap, the Queen came out of hiding in the reef, as in made herself be known to the Fallen, to intercept the House of Wolves from reaching Earth. The Reef Wars followed. Why bother? And again, she banished any Awoken who decided to remain on Earth following the Collapse. So her motives are odd. She hates Earth, yet puts herself and the Awoken people at risk to protect Earth.
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[quote]Quite a blunt statement, I know. Naming the Awoken as enemies of the Tower is quite a stretch, given the generosity that has been shown the Guardians recently. Hopefully in this explanation of some grimoire cards I can show why this generosity might have an ulterior motive. Not many people take the time to read grimoire cards. Yes, we love to earn them in order to flaunt a higher number than other people, but we generally don't care about the lore that is behind them. In these cards you can read about anything from a specific Fallen gun to the backstory of Skolas. However, we can also find hints of future developments in these cards. So, if you've got nothing better to do, follow along as I explain why I think the Awoken will be the cause of the Tower's downfall. I highly suggest you follow along with me by reading the entirety of the cards I quote. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Prison of Elders, The Reef. This card is Cayde-6, Hunter Vanguard, narrating the Queen's use for the Prison of Elders. This is one of the paragraphs from the card. "Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too. No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work. Cutthroat politics! And who's the best at cutthroat politics? That's right, her Majesty, the Queen of the Reef." This is just a sample from the card, but it goes on to explain the entire story. One common theme throughout this card is that the Queen of the Awoken is dangerously good at ‘cutthroat politics.’ One tactic mentioned that was used by both Skolas and the Queen is creating strife between two rivals. Focus on the same paragraph I quoted before, but this time the first sentence. “Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too.” Earlier in the card there is an explanation of Skolas’ thought process as this was going on during the ‘civil war.’ “…if the Reef killed my boss, and gave me a chance at the throne, maybe I can use the Reef to kill all my rivals too!” Using her rivals to kill off each other was the method by which the Queen forced the House of Wolves into her submission. Why this vague history matters you might not realize. Later on in Cayde-6’s explanation of the Prison of Elders he explains that the Queen captured many abominations throughout the Reef and keeps these evils in the Prison. Cayde-6 makes his own subtle mentions at some reasons for this. “Maybe the Queen wants Guardians in the Reef, to deter more unrest. Maybe the Queen wants intelligence on how her prizes fight. Maybe she wants intelligence on how WE fight.” Ominous, right? Here is the following statement that connects with what we said earlier. “Whatever happens— I want you to remember that she knows, more than anyone else I've met, how to set one foe against another.” When we look at the story line of the Expansion II, House of Wolves, we realize that this is exactly what she is doing. The House betrayed her, and is now running a muck who knows where, and rather than do her own dirty work she is calling in the Guardians to handle them, all the while learning how we fight. This follows her template of ‘cutthroat politics’ mentioned earlier. “No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work.” She is perfectly setting Guardians against the Fallen in order to avoid making the Awoken seem as powerful as they really are. And at the same time, she is learning how Guardians fight and is causing a great deal of distraction from the real Darkness. I mean, who wouldn’t choose to fight in an arena with awesome rewards as opposed to off somewhere fighting massive armies of the Darkness against which the most common reward is death? So far, all of this is guesswork. Well, more of a hypothesis. Yes, I have evidence, but in reality all of this is merely an educated guess based on the evidence. However, another grimoire card displays the chilling scene of an interaction between Eris Morn and Prince Uldren, the Queen’s brother. This time I have copied the entire card, as it isn’t quite as long as the previous one. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Ghost Fragment: The Reef The attendant moves as Prince Uldren passes through the massive door separating the Outpost’s common area from the warren of tunnels that make up the Queen’s Bay. He rounds a corner and a poorly maintained hatch opens for him, clunking and groaning as it separates. The room beyond is dark, shadowed. He steps through, and the hatch shudders closed behind him. A series of dim illumination panels flicker on. He is not alone. Three dull green lights blaze to life behind a veil. She tilts her head to consider the Prince, face like a marble carving. "You." Her voice resonates inside small chamber. "Say what you want and get out. We don’t have time for this right now." "In the past, Her Majesty has seen fit to—" "In the past, our nav lanes weren’t full of Guardians." Uldren snaps. "Last I heard, your Queen was on the far end of the Belt." "If the Guardians knew you and she were in contact, it would be detrimental to her plans." The woman nodded, once. "Very well." She stood, slowly, drawing herself up to her full height in one smooth motion. "I come with word from beyond..." The mysterious figure is no doubt Eris Morn, the representative for the Crota’s Bane faction in the Tower. What other female character has three glowing eyes behind a veil? More can be learned about her by reading about her in the grimoire and by listening to her while doing the missions for her in-game. Why is the Queen in contact with Eris Morn? I can’t find any answer for this that is more than a guess. Who is she bringing word from? Once again, we can only guess. (Let’s just hope that it isn’t a certain King we’ve all had our minds on lately…) However, we do have some evidence for why Eris might be looking for contacts outside the Tower. References for the evidence on Eris Morn are in-game things she has said, and the statements in the grimoire card “Allies > Tower Allies > Crota’s Bane Eris Morn was once a Guardian. That should be fairly obvious, based on the fact that she’s the hipster of the Crota raid. (She failed at it before it was cool.) Her card mentions that she lost her Ghost in this failed raid. Upon losing her Ghost Eris was forced to hide in the Darkness of the Moon. She lived off of it for “countless cycles” as the card says. “Despite all odds she endured, using the very dark she battled to emerge a changed warrior—driven, some would say obsessed.” Eris Morn, according to this card, used the Darkness itself to escape. Shifty business, huh? It gets worse. The Speaker and Commander Zavala (Titan Vanguard) both believe that she has been “fully seduced by the shadows.” The card also states that her warnings of Crota are often deemed “madness.” So, think about it. A Guardian who lost her Ghost, survived off of the Darkness the Hive live off for years, and returned to the Tower to warn them about it only to be scoffed at as crazy might have just a tiny little bit of contempt. And if the Speaker is to be trusted, she might just be as much as an agent of Darkness as she looks. I look forward to hearing feedback about this theory and some ideas about what might be the answers to the numerous questions this theory has raised.[/quote]
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[quote]Quite a blunt statement, I know. Naming the Awoken as enemies of the Tower is quite a stretch, given the generosity that has been shown the Guardians recently. Hopefully in this explanation of some grimoire cards I can show why this generosity might have an ulterior motive. Not many people take the time to read grimoire cards. Yes, we love to earn them in order to flaunt a higher number than other people, but we generally don't care about the lore that is behind them. In these cards you can read about anything from a specific Fallen gun to the backstory of Skolas. However, we can also find hints of future developments in these cards. So, if you've got nothing better to do, follow along as I explain why I think the Awoken will be the cause of the Tower's downfall. I highly suggest you follow along with me by reading the entirety of the cards I quote. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Prison of Elders, The Reef. This card is Cayde-6, Hunter Vanguard, narrating the Queen's use for the Prison of Elders. This is one of the paragraphs from the card. "Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too. No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work. Cutthroat politics! And who's the best at cutthroat politics? That's right, her Majesty, the Queen of the Reef." This is just a sample from the card, but it goes on to explain the entire story. One common theme throughout this card is that the Queen of the Awoken is dangerously good at ‘cutthroat politics.’ One tactic mentioned that was used by both Skolas and the Queen is creating strife between two rivals. Focus on the same paragraph I quoted before, but this time the first sentence. “Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too.” Earlier in the card there is an explanation of Skolas’ thought process as this was going on during the ‘civil war.’ “…if the Reef killed my boss, and gave me a chance at the throne, maybe I can use the Reef to kill all my rivals too!” Using her rivals to kill off each other was the method by which the Queen forced the House of Wolves into her submission. Why this vague history matters you might not realize. Later on in Cayde-6’s explanation of the Prison of Elders he explains that the Queen captured many abominations throughout the Reef and keeps these evils in the Prison. Cayde-6 makes his own subtle mentions at some reasons for this. “Maybe the Queen wants Guardians in the Reef, to deter more unrest. Maybe the Queen wants intelligence on how her prizes fight. Maybe she wants intelligence on how WE fight.” Ominous, right? Here is the following statement that connects with what we said earlier. “Whatever happens— I want you to remember that she knows, more than anyone else I've met, how to set one foe against another.” When we look at the story line of the Expansion II, House of Wolves, we realize that this is exactly what she is doing. The House betrayed her, and is now running a muck who knows where, and rather than do her own dirty work she is calling in the Guardians to handle them, all the while learning how we fight. This follows her template of ‘cutthroat politics’ mentioned earlier. “No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work.” She is perfectly setting Guardians against the Fallen in order to avoid making the Awoken seem as powerful as they really are. And at the same time, she is learning how Guardians fight and is causing a great deal of distraction from the real Darkness. I mean, who wouldn’t choose to fight in an arena with awesome rewards as opposed to off somewhere fighting massive armies of the Darkness against which the most common reward is death? So far, all of this is guesswork. Well, more of a hypothesis. Yes, I have evidence, but in reality all of this is merely an educated guess based on the evidence. However, another grimoire card displays the chilling scene of an interaction between Eris Morn and Prince Uldren, the Queen’s brother. This time I have copied the entire card, as it isn’t quite as long as the previous one. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Ghost Fragment: The Reef The attendant moves as Prince Uldren passes through the massive door separating the Outpost’s common area from the warren of tunnels that make up the Queen’s Bay. He rounds a corner and a poorly maintained hatch opens for him, clunking and groaning as it separates. The room beyond is dark, shadowed. He steps through, and the hatch shudders closed behind him. A series of dim illumination panels flicker on. He is not alone. Three dull green lights blaze to life behind a veil. She tilts her head to consider the Prince, face like a marble carving. "You." Her voice resonates inside small chamber. "Say what you want and get out. We don’t have time for this right now." "In the past, Her Majesty has seen fit to—" "In the past, our nav lanes weren’t full of Guardians." Uldren snaps. "Last I heard, your Queen was on the far end of the Belt." "If the Guardians knew you and she were in contact, it would be detrimental to her plans." The woman nodded, once. "Very well." She stood, slowly, drawing herself up to her full height in one smooth motion. "I come with word from beyond..." The mysterious figure is no doubt Eris Morn, the representative for the Crota’s Bane faction in the Tower. What other female character has three glowing eyes behind a veil? More can be learned about her by reading about her in the grimoire and by listening to her while doing the missions for her in-game. Why is the Queen in contact with Eris Morn? I can’t find any answer for this that is more than a guess. Who is she bringing word from? Once again, we can only guess. (Let’s just hope that it isn’t a certain King we’ve all had our minds on lately…) However, we do have some evidence for why Eris might be looking for contacts outside the Tower. References for the evidence on Eris Morn are in-game things she has said, and the statements in the grimoire card “Allies > Tower Allies > Crota’s Bane Eris Morn was once a Guardian. That should be fairly obvious, based on the fact that she’s the hipster of the Crota raid. (She failed at it before it was cool.) Her card mentions that she lost her Ghost in this failed raid. Upon losing her Ghost Eris was forced to hide in the Darkness of the Moon. She lived off of it for “countless cycles” as the card says. “Despite all odds she endured, using the very dark she battled to emerge a changed warrior—driven, some would say obsessed.” Eris Morn, according to this card, used the Darkness itself to escape. Shifty business, huh? It gets worse. The Speaker and Commander Zavala (Titan Vanguard) both believe that she has been “fully seduced by the shadows.” The card also states that her warnings of Crota are often deemed “madness.” So, think about it. A Guardian who lost her Ghost, survived off of the Darkness the Hive live off for years, and returned to the Tower to warn them about it only to be scoffed at as crazy might have just a tiny little bit of contempt. And if the Speaker is to be trusted, she might just be as much as an agent of Darkness as she looks. I look forward to hearing feedback about this theory and some ideas about what might be the answers to the numerous questions this theory has raised.[/quote]
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[quote]Quite a blunt statement, I know. Naming the Awoken as enemies of the Tower is quite a stretch, given the generosity that has been shown the Guardians recently. Hopefully in this explanation of some grimoire cards I can show why this generosity might have an ulterior motive. Not many people take the time to read grimoire cards. Yes, we love to earn them in order to flaunt a higher number than other people, but we generally don't care about the lore that is behind them. In these cards you can read about anything from a specific Fallen gun to the backstory of Skolas. However, we can also find hints of future developments in these cards. So, if you've got nothing better to do, follow along as I explain why I think the Awoken will be the cause of the Tower's downfall. I highly suggest you follow along with me by reading the entirety of the cards I quote. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Prison of Elders, The Reef. This card is Cayde-6, Hunter Vanguard, narrating the Queen's use for the Prison of Elders. This is one of the paragraphs from the card. "Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too. No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work. Cutthroat politics! And who's the best at cutthroat politics? That's right, her Majesty, the Queen of the Reef." This is just a sample from the card, but it goes on to explain the entire story. One common theme throughout this card is that the Queen of the Awoken is dangerously good at ‘cutthroat politics.’ One tactic mentioned that was used by both Skolas and the Queen is creating strife between two rivals. Focus on the same paragraph I quoted before, but this time the first sentence. “Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too.” Earlier in the card there is an explanation of Skolas’ thought process as this was going on during the ‘civil war.’ “…if the Reef killed my boss, and gave me a chance at the throne, maybe I can use the Reef to kill all my rivals too!” Using her rivals to kill off each other was the method by which the Queen forced the House of Wolves into her submission. Why this vague history matters you might not realize. Later on in Cayde-6’s explanation of the Prison of Elders he explains that the Queen captured many abominations throughout the Reef and keeps these evils in the Prison. Cayde-6 makes his own subtle mentions at some reasons for this. “Maybe the Queen wants Guardians in the Reef, to deter more unrest. Maybe the Queen wants intelligence on how her prizes fight. Maybe she wants intelligence on how WE fight.” Ominous, right? Here is the following statement that connects with what we said earlier. “Whatever happens— I want you to remember that she knows, more than anyone else I've met, how to set one foe against another.” When we look at the story line of the Expansion II, House of Wolves, we realize that this is exactly what she is doing. The House betrayed her, and is now running a muck who knows where, and rather than do her own dirty work she is calling in the Guardians to handle them, all the while learning how we fight. This follows her template of ‘cutthroat politics’ mentioned earlier. “No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work.” She is perfectly setting Guardians against the Fallen in order to avoid making the Awoken seem as powerful as they really are. And at the same time, she is learning how Guardians fight and is causing a great deal of distraction from the real Darkness. I mean, who wouldn’t choose to fight in an arena with awesome rewards as opposed to off somewhere fighting massive armies of the Darkness against which the most common reward is death? So far, all of this is guesswork. Well, more of a hypothesis. Yes, I have evidence, but in reality all of this is merely an educated guess based on the evidence. However, another grimoire card displays the chilling scene of an interaction between Eris Morn and Prince Uldren, the Queen’s brother. This time I have copied the entire card, as it isn’t quite as long as the previous one. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Ghost Fragment: The Reef The attendant moves as Prince Uldren passes through the massive door separating the Outpost’s common area from the warren of tunnels that make up the Queen’s Bay. He rounds a corner and a poorly maintained hatch opens for him, clunking and groaning as it separates. The room beyond is dark, shadowed. He steps through, and the hatch shudders closed behind him. A series of dim illumination panels flicker on. He is not alone. Three dull green lights blaze to life behind a veil. She tilts her head to consider the Prince, face like a marble carving. "You." Her voice resonates inside small chamber. "Say what you want and get out. We don’t have time for this right now." "In the past, Her Majesty has seen fit to—" "In the past, our nav lanes weren’t full of Guardians." Uldren snaps. "Last I heard, your Queen was on the far end of the Belt." "If the Guardians knew you and she were in contact, it would be detrimental to her plans." The woman nodded, once. "Very well." She stood, slowly, drawing herself up to her full height in one smooth motion. "I come with word from beyond..." The mysterious figure is no doubt Eris Morn, the representative for the Crota’s Bane faction in the Tower. What other female character has three glowing eyes behind a veil? More can be learned about her by reading about her in the grimoire and by listening to her while doing the missions for her in-game. Why is the Queen in contact with Eris Morn? I can’t find any answer for this that is more than a guess. Who is she bringing word from? Once again, we can only guess. (Let’s just hope that it isn’t a certain King we’ve all had our minds on lately…) However, we do have some evidence for why Eris might be looking for contacts outside the Tower. References for the evidence on Eris Morn are in-game things she has said, and the statements in the grimoire card “Allies > Tower Allies > Crota’s Bane Eris Morn was once a Guardian. That should be fairly obvious, based on the fact that she’s the hipster of the Crota raid. (She failed at it before it was cool.) Her card mentions that she lost her Ghost in this failed raid. Upon losing her Ghost Eris was forced to hide in the Darkness of the Moon. She lived off of it for “countless cycles” as the card says. “Despite all odds she endured, using the very dark she battled to emerge a changed warrior—driven, some would say obsessed.” Eris Morn, according to this card, used the Darkness itself to escape. Shifty business, huh? It gets worse. The Speaker and Commander Zavala (Titan Vanguard) both believe that she has been “fully seduced by the shadows.” The card also states that her warnings of Crota are often deemed “madness.” So, think about it. A Guardian who lost her Ghost, survived off of the Darkness the Hive live off for years, and returned to the Tower to warn them about it only to be scoffed at as crazy might have just a tiny little bit of contempt. And if the Speaker is to be trusted, she might just be as much as an agent of Darkness as she looks. I look forward to hearing feedback about this theory and some ideas about what might be the answers to the numerous questions this theory has raised.[/quote]
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[quote]Quite a blunt statement, I know. Naming the Awoken as enemies of the Tower is quite a stretch, given the generosity that has been shown the Guardians recently. Hopefully in this explanation of some grimoire cards I can show why this generosity might have an ulterior motive. Not many people take the time to read grimoire cards. Yes, we love to earn them in order to flaunt a higher number than other people, but we generally don't care about the lore that is behind them. In these cards you can read about anything from a specific Fallen gun to the backstory of Skolas. However, we can also find hints of future developments in these cards. So, if you've got nothing better to do, follow along as I explain why I think the Awoken will be the cause of the Tower's downfall. I highly suggest you follow along with me by reading the entirety of the cards I quote. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Prison of Elders, The Reef. This card is Cayde-6, Hunter Vanguard, narrating the Queen's use for the Prison of Elders. This is one of the paragraphs from the card. "Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too. No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work. Cutthroat politics! And who's the best at cutthroat politics? That's right, her Majesty, the Queen of the Reef." This is just a sample from the card, but it goes on to explain the entire story. One common theme throughout this card is that the Queen of the Awoken is dangerously good at ‘cutthroat politics.’ One tactic mentioned that was used by both Skolas and the Queen is creating strife between two rivals. Focus on the same paragraph I quoted before, but this time the first sentence. “Everyone involved in the civil war started trying to play their rivals against each other, and the Awoken too.” Earlier in the card there is an explanation of Skolas’ thought process as this was going on during the ‘civil war.’ “…if the Reef killed my boss, and gave me a chance at the throne, maybe I can use the Reef to kill all my rivals too!” Using her rivals to kill off each other was the method by which the Queen forced the House of Wolves into her submission. Why this vague history matters you might not realize. Later on in Cayde-6’s explanation of the Prison of Elders he explains that the Queen captured many abominations throughout the Reef and keeps these evils in the Prison. Cayde-6 makes his own subtle mentions at some reasons for this. “Maybe the Queen wants Guardians in the Reef, to deter more unrest. Maybe the Queen wants intelligence on how her prizes fight. Maybe she wants intelligence on how WE fight.” Ominous, right? Here is the following statement that connects with what we said earlier. “Whatever happens— I want you to remember that she knows, more than anyone else I've met, how to set one foe against another.” When we look at the story line of the Expansion II, House of Wolves, we realize that this is exactly what she is doing. The House betrayed her, and is now running a muck who knows where, and rather than do her own dirty work she is calling in the Guardians to handle them, all the while learning how we fight. This follows her template of ‘cutthroat politics’ mentioned earlier. “No one wanted to become so strong that they'd be a target. No one wanted to bleed their own forces dry doing someone else's dirty work.” She is perfectly setting Guardians against the Fallen in order to avoid making the Awoken seem as powerful as they really are. And at the same time, she is learning how Guardians fight and is causing a great deal of distraction from the real Darkness. I mean, who wouldn’t choose to fight in an arena with awesome rewards as opposed to off somewhere fighting massive armies of the Darkness against which the most common reward is death? So far, all of this is guesswork. Well, more of a hypothesis. Yes, I have evidence, but in reality all of this is merely an educated guess based on the evidence. However, another grimoire card displays the chilling scene of an interaction between Eris Morn and Prince Uldren, the Queen’s brother. This time I have copied the entire card, as it isn’t quite as long as the previous one. Places > The Asteroid Belt > Ghost Fragment: The Reef The attendant moves as Prince Uldren passes through the massive door separating the Outpost’s common area from the warren of tunnels that make up the Queen’s Bay. He rounds a corner and a poorly maintained hatch opens for him, clunking and groaning as it separates. The room beyond is dark, shadowed. He steps through, and the hatch shudders closed behind him. A series of dim illumination panels flicker on. He is not alone. Three dull green lights blaze to life behind a veil. She tilts her head to consider the Prince, face like a marble carving. "You." Her voice resonates inside small chamber. "Say what you want and get out. We don’t have time for this right now." "In the past, Her Majesty has seen fit to—" "In the past, our nav lanes weren’t full of Guardians." Uldren snaps. "Last I heard, your Queen was on the far end of the Belt." "If the Guardians knew you and she were in contact, it would be detrimental to her plans." The woman nodded, once. "Very well." She stood, slowly, drawing herself up to her full height in one smooth motion. "I come with word from beyond..." The mysterious figure is no doubt Eris Morn, the representative for the Crota’s Bane faction in the Tower. What other female character has three glowing eyes behind a veil? More can be learned about her by reading about her in the grimoire and by listening to her while doing the missions for her in-game. Why is the Queen in contact with Eris Morn? I can’t find any answer for this that is more than a guess. Who is she bringing word from? Once again, we can only guess. (Let’s just hope that it isn’t a certain King we’ve all had our minds on lately…) However, we do have some evidence for why Eris might be looking for contacts outside the Tower. References for the evidence on Eris Morn are in-game things she has said, and the statements in the grimoire card “Allies > Tower Allies > Crota’s Bane Eris Morn was once a Guardian. That should be fairly obvious, based on the fact that she’s the hipster of the Crota raid. (She failed at it before it was cool.) Her card mentions that she lost her Ghost in this failed raid. Upon losing her Ghost Eris was forced to hide in the Darkness of the Moon. She lived off of it for “countless cycles” as the card says. “Despite all odds she endured, using the very dark she battled to emerge a changed warrior—driven, some would say obsessed.” Eris Morn, according to this card, used the Darkness itself to escape. Shifty business, huh? It gets worse. The Speaker and Commander Zavala (Titan Vanguard) both believe that she has been “fully seduced by the shadows.” The card also states that her warnings of Crota are often deemed “madness.” So, think about it. A Guardian who lost her Ghost, survived off of the Darkness the Hive live off for years, and returned to the Tower to warn them about it only to be scoffed at as crazy might have just a tiny little bit of contempt. And if the Speaker is to be trusted, she might just be as much as an agent of Darkness as she looks. I look forward to hearing feedback about this theory and some ideas about what might be the answers to the numerous questions this theory has raised.[/quote]
