All this talk about who is better on Destiny is just stupid. We are talking about an FPS game where everything is buffed, everything is on steroids. There is no "true skill based matchmaking", neither is there custom games. I have never played an FPS game where everything was so easy to do, grenades, weapons, jumps, supers, connection. Just too much, there is literally no challenge if you know how to abuse the game. It's like being born as a rich kid and staying like that, getting everything you want as long as you know how to maintain it. All this trash talk, just stop. This game has no competitive scene, and probably for good reason. This is just a casual game that you play for fun, coming from a point of view where I'm a "top skirmish leaderboard kid" where I know there are better players than me out there. Heck there might be a 6 year old better than me in china, stats don't matter. I just want to chill and socialize with people who want to have fun as well. At the end of the day, it's just a game, and a game with no competitive scene. Until this game goes pro, which I doubt will happen but anything is possible, it's a casual game. I guarantee you top pros from any real competitive fps who would put in the time for this game, could easily dominate, because it is so easy. Trash talking in a game where it doesn't take much skill or effort to be good at won't get you anywhere. Do us a favour, chill out, and have fun, just like others. We need less of you people in this community, and more people who genuinely want to have a good time, and be with others who want the same. :) P.S. If you don't think I have a valid opinion or think I am a complete idiot when it comes to this subject, here are my "PvP Stats", that PvPers like to back themselves up on... Stats: http://destinytracker.com/destiny/crucible/xbox/My%20Hidden%20Vices