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America isn't the greatest

This video is probably old news, but I feel it makes an overall very valid point. [b]Edit:[/b] since its abundantly clear I'm putting too much faith in the intelligence of the flood to understand the point here, I'll just lay out the meat and potatoes from the video for you. [quote] We sure used to be. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors. We put our money where our mouths were. And we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and we cultivated the world's greatest artists and the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence, we didn't belittle it, it didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in our last election. And we didn't... we didn't scare so easy. We were able to be all these things, and to do all these things, [b]because we [u]were[/u] informed.[/b] By great men, men who were revered. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. America is not the greatest country in the world anymore. [/quote] America Avg yearly wage: ~$56,000 Global Rank: 1st Median yearly wage for a working adult: ~$30,000 Global Rank: 4th (Behind Luxembourg, Norway, and Switzerland) Basic standard of living in the United States: [url=http://www.epi.org/publication/bp224/] ~$48,000 [/url] For an avg 2 adult, 2 child family. Global Rank: ranking measures too varied. On avg we're about 15th Here we can already see that for an avg family two working parents is a necessity to not live in poverty. And [u]qualify and depend on government assistance.[/u] If you have people on welfare, then we need to allow them to not need it. Education global overall Rank 14th (Behind countries like China, and Russia) We rank 12th in college completion rates when in the last few decades we were at or near the top. Cost of college has risen 250% in the last 30 years alone. 75% of college students are college commuters, juggling jobs, and families. Only 24% of part time students achieve a 4 year degree after attending college for 8 years compared to 60% of full time students earning their degree. What is happening is we have placed such a financial burden on college students that more and more of them are unable to attend college full time, which is causing degrees to take longer too achieve, as well as a lower % of them successfully wanting their degree. It creates a skill gap in the work force and the jobs that are available. This something we are seeing more and more today. American students are not only coming out of college in debt, they are often coming out with no degree into a job market they aren't qualified to compete in. We need to make American education a priority on the national agenda again.

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  • IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. 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  • Canada has hardier people than America and the ironic thing is that only the hardiest of Americans know this

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  • SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY SAWED OFF DOUBLE BARREL USING SHELLS PACKED WITH FREEDOM!!!!!!

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  • If ur livin in America come to Canada free health care and no guns!

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  • Nothing is perfect and that's an opinion

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  • America was never as great as what you stated. No country has ever been as good as that.

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    • Edited by Hippo_Legacy: 10/27/2015 5:34:37 PM
      Nioce, but you know some of those numbers from other countries are unreliable right? And you have to take into account that most European countries are smaller than the majority of states in the US. It's hell of a lot easier, not to mention cheaper, to provide for and keep track of say 2 million kids than 30 million (I made these numbers up, they aren't official) The numbers are skewed, especially in China. They only report what makes them look good. The fact is the majority of Chinese outside of the major cites are uneducated. But we do need to re-prioritize education in the US, things have gotten out of hand.

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    • Yeah and we kicked the people that were here first off their land -blam!- their women and made black people slaves

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      • Why do you think there is such a financial burden? Who do you think is responsible? What would you do to fix? What would be the effect of your fix?

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      • China's education was in a concentrated region alone and didn't account for the rest of the country. Therefore, in my eyes, the statistic for education is currently false

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      • Communist

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        • BUT WE ARE AMERICA!!!!

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        • More people are going to college (4year) than before, perhaps some of which shouldn't be wasting their time AND money doing so. A college(4 year) education used to be an elite education, now any riff-raff can attend. Maybe, just maybe, this is why so many people are drowning in undo dept. College is advance education, not intended for any plebian.

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          • The only way to save America is to elect Donald trump

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            • Edited by Demagogue: 6/19/2015 3:13:58 AM
              I disagree with the video. Overly emotional view of the past which really doesn't have any connection to reality.

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              • Hell, who needs Education, when we've got FREEDOM! WHOO! Now coming to a Predator Drone near you.

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              • Edited by SSG ACM: 6/19/2015 5:41:38 AM
                Wow, something we can agree on; except for the fact that I believe that America has the most potential to be great.

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                • That video was first shown to me this year by my English teacher, and I thank him so much for showing it to me.

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                • We spend more money on health care than any other country and we rank in the low 20s for quality of care. We spend more money on energy than any other country and we are only at 50% efficency(Japan is at 90%). Same with education; spend more with dismal rankings. And so on. Why? Because over 100s of years people have figured out a way to privatize the gains and socialize the losses. Which is now, the status quo. Also, at a certain point they (the status quo) figured out that instead of competing against each other, working together in collusion yeilds even more profit with little to no downside. The LIBOR scandal is a perfect example, amongst many others.

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                  • Not everyone needs to go to college. Many people get out of college and can't find a job. We need to teach workplace skills. My husband didn't go to college and he makes enough to support us and our child. We need to be teaching people life skills and how to live frugally and on a budget. I think that would help out a lot.

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                    • So the quote is talking about the golden age right? Then the traveler changed everything... [spoiler]Inb4 swiggity swoogity desticle[/spoiler]

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                    • Edited by The_Azazel: 6/18/2015 1:57:32 PM
                      America is too patriotic for me. I'm more of a fan of Canada, Denmark, Iceland, and The UK. At least those places have a little bit more culture.

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                      • Murica is the best

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                        • That's sorta relative isn't it? What other country has the will and the might to act as we have? Emphasis on [i]have[/i]

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                          • I'll agree on one condition. You admit Canada is worse than us.

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                            • Btw Jabuti is the best country. Not sure if that's spelt right tho

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