Do not come into [b][i][u]VOG HARD[/u][/i][/b] with blue weapons and under 29 if you are [b]INEXPERIENCED[/b]. Just played with a bunch of people who thought they could get past gatekeeper. I sat back and watched them fail. Although I do get a 28 is fine if there are enough 29's and 30's to make up for it. Edit: 1 Lets clear somethings up. First off I just helped that group beat then entire VOG on normal. Someone in the group said they had the hard checkpoint. So they made him leader despite my constant warnings that they wouldn't survive and were severely underleveled for hard mode. Why did I sit back? We had 5 attempts where I was soloing the left portal because I wanted as many people outside as possible they still died. Then expected me to revive them I explained it was impossible we wiped because only me and one guy remained and he didn't have the fire power to solo the right portal quickly. They said they wouldn't die 30 seconds in were all shooting at gatekeeper who is taking forever to die because of their crappy snipers. After losing time after time and them not giving up I simply let them be hard headed while I sat back and watched them die. Edit 2: I have zero regrets for what I did and I don't feel bad so stop trying to put me down.