In Crucible that is...
Not sure why everybody is concerned over pvp balance because Xur sold RD. Its definately overrated. I think people overlook RDs piss poor RoF, and solely focus on the high impact.
Just go buy a Coiled Hiss PR from the vanguard lady. You won't regret it. The high RoF and supreme stability move than compensate for the impact. Seriously, it freakin ownz hard.
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I [b]love[/b] my Coiled Hiss 1919. Used it all Iron Banner and was quite consistently outgunning Thorn and Red Death users. However, as others have already said, for the most part it is the player that decides the outcome of a gunfight, not the weapon.
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Player > gun. I can beat all the "op" guns with my bad juju and 22 round vanquisher viii for instance. It's all about who's using the gun (mostly).
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timepiece is better than all of them
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Praedyth's timepiece is the best pulse rifle in pvp. No question. The perks compleat it perfect and the stability makes it a laser gun.
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Edited by Belmontmarauder: 3/16/2015 1:32:07 AMI could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a smarter statement than this.
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You realize Red Death's RoF used to be lower right?
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I agree. The first exotic I ever got from xur was the red death the first time he sold it. I always loved that gun. But I recently copped a coiled hiss from a legendary engram and holy shit. I was blown away by how quickly it eats people alive in the crucible. I almost wish this thread would die so people keep sleeping on this gun. I have the juju, three little words, oversoul edict, time on target and the red death but undoubtedly the coiled hiss is better for PVP. And my shits not even upgraded. Check my titan, I got a pretty sick roll
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So how would you rate the Conduit on my Hunter? similar rate of fire, but twice the impact. Not decided whether to keep it yet, so your opinion is welcome.
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Mine is red death's complete opposite
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Really good with the right perks!
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Got some rare PR for crucible, it's equipped on my warlock. Gotta upgrade it tho
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Lol My rare evergreen II.I is better
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But that stranger rifle tho
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Healing perk.
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COILED HISS PRO TIP: TL-DR: Do not use perfect balance! This beast is the fastest shooting gun per damage that is a primary legendary. It kills faster than the auto rifles ever did, and kills faster than any other pulse rifle class besides red death. If you use HIGH CALIBER ROUNDS you can completely exploit the high ROF flinch this gun afflicts enemies with. In fact, it is so effective on this gun because you already have counterbalance. Try it. You will consider it not just good but competitive with the last word and thorn and snipers all in one 30 round killing machine. Source: I play a lot of PVP
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I just don't care for full auto PRs. If I had to choose one PR, it'd be red death. But full auto PRs do have their pro points. I didn't keep my Hiss because I already have Edict. But that spray and pray... Pretty helpful in certain situations, especially those that call for fire superiority.
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Red Death is the best PvP Pulse Rifle followed by Three Little Words or Bad JuJu depending on your playstyle
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I play a lot of crucible and honestly it's good but not better than red death
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Red death is way better than that thing IMO.
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Dooood. I've got a rolled Coiled hiss that came with Head seeker (body shots increase precision damage) and glass half full (bottom half of the mag deals bonus damage). Then my choice of field scout, flared magwell and something I've forgotten. So that's 2 damage increasing perks and super fast reloads. It's alot of fun to use and it does really well in pvp.
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LOL dude, Coiled Hiss is the WORST of the new pulse rifles, I don't care what perks you have on it. If you're looking for a pulse rifle to dethrone Red Death, it's called Three Little Words.
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I use the timepiece
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I actually use the coiled hiss frequently, but I compared it to the Time on Target, and almost everything was better. Hoping I could get one with field scout.
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You are wrong. 3TW beats them both. High impact, high stability, 3rd eye, and head seeker. Only thing to make it better would be secret round.
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I have both. I personally hated the coiled hiss