Crota's End on Normal - Bridge Encounter. I'm using a fully upgraded [331 Attack] SwordBreaker with Hive Disrupt: Bonus Damage to Hive Majors. Honestly, the Shotgun damage improvements are noticeable and almost make me want to use a Shotgun in PvE a lot more than I currently do (which is not at all), but here's the thing: Bungie didn't fully consider the problem, which is "Why aren't more people using shotguns in PvE?" The answer to this question is NOT "Shotguns don't do enough damage." That's part of the issue, but not even close to the full issue. I think the *real* reason that Shotguns aren't the weapon of choice in most PvE situations is because of the risk involved in getting close to an enemy. Even if I'm firing off 3x more damage than normal, against a high level enemy, I'm as good as dead. When you look at the other choice of: Sit back and snipe long range for the SAME amount of damage, then there's not really a 1-1 comparison is there? Watch the video, I think it's proof that it's possible to kill slightly high level mobs somewhat quickly with the new shotgun damage buff. However, one thing I quickly noticed (especially with the sword bearer case) is that the stagger rarely occurs (happens more frequently using a sniper), so enemies will eat you alive on your second or third shots. At the end of the day, I'm happy they made an attempt to make Shotguns relevant in PvE, but I won't be putting down my Black Hammer any time soon. What are your thoughts? I honestly [b]don't [/b] have a lot of Shotgun experience in PvP or PvE, so there's not a whole lot of ground to stand on when it comes to my opinions about them. Did I pick the wrong "test" in the video? It seemed like a pretty obvious choice being the raid shotgun maxed out against raid mobs one level under my player. EDIT: In case you're wondering, that is "Blessing of Light" not "Weapons of Light"