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In Australia, women's health get's four times more funding than men's health

[url=http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/men-die-earlier-but-womens-health-gets-four-times-more-funding/story-fneuzlbd-1226794504245]Welcome to the lovely country of Australia,[/url] where women get four times the funding for health projects. According to the article, one reason for the discrepancy in funding is that women are more vocal about their experiences than men are. They have the market's corner on sympathy, which in turn gets them more funding for various projects. The incessant flood of awareness campaigns for women's issues--especially breast cancer--has manipulated public perception into believing that these ailments are more prevalent than men's illnesses. It is sad that politicians, who presumably have access to this information during hearings, still decide to fund projects disproportionately. Regardless of how men feel about sharing their ailments publicly, there shouldn't be such a gap between funding for health between the sexes. Presumably, men are dying because their ailments aren't getting a proportional amount of government funding. Obviously, this is a pretty shocking and disgusting issue that should be addressed by the Australian populace. Well Australians, do you guys have a high enough political drive to make this happen? Or are you just a bunch of [i]Americans[/i]? inb4massiveflamewaronirreleventtopics Edit: Just read Seggi's thing.

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  • Edited by Seggi: 1/5/2014 2:35:41 AM
    Ugh. Murdoch press [i]and[/i] Alan Jones in one article - this'll be fun. To start, politicians don't actually approve these grants - the NHMRC, from everything I can find, is self-governing. More to the point, however, is the fact that the article touts a difference of [i]four times[/i] the funding for women over men - yet explains only 124 million of that 600 million+ gap. (64 million of which is explained by the gap between ovarian and testicular cancers, the former of which actually has about twice the incidence of the latter...) Which isn't even to mention the fact that it didn't include the actual funding figures for those cancers, so we can't actually judge how significant those gaps are - but I suppose that kind of spin is standard for a News Ltd journo. But anyway, you want to know what I'd guess would make up a significant part of that gap? [i]Pregnancy[/i]. I looked through the grants for 2013 (a couple of hundred anyway - there were about 1300 there) and just about all of the grants for women's health that weren't dealing with ovarian or breast cancer were for related to pregnancy. (There were a few other generic things for both men and women, as well, but there didn't seem to be much of a difference.) All of this basically means that the drastic inequality amounts to "Breast cancer receives a disproportionate amount of exposure/support compared to prostate cancer" - which anybody who's seen half the ads that have been run here in the past for breast cancer could've told you five years ago. Yes, prostate cancer research has largely been underfunded. No, that doesn't mean you should turn that into some massive health inequality where women are getting some awesome deal. It's petty and doesn't actually [i]help[/i] the cause - and it's kind of bullshit anyway, considering that the state of breast cancer awareness in this country has been driven by something like a decade long campaign. And did you completely ignore the section they hid right down there at the bottom of the article? "There were twice as many applications to the NHMRC for breast cancer as for prostate cancer and five times more for ovarian cancer than testicular cancer in the decade 2003-2013, an NHMRC spokesman said." This isn't a political issue - it's not a matter of politicians (or even those in the NHMRC) seeing breast cancer and deciding they should fund that disproportionately, it's a matter of there being a disproportionate interest in the academic community in breast (and ovarian) cancer, which could really be for any number of reasons aside from the obvious matter of the disease having a lot of exposure. tl;dr: find a better source. And, yes, I'm annoyed - the first time one of you decides to take an interest in any kind of Australian affairs it's this fabricated outrage. Goddamnit.

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    • Typical. Most guys I know hate hospitals and would just rather deal with shit themselves. People who whine get more attention. Simple.

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    • From my experience of watching TV, Aussie women are deserving of health because they're really hot.

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      • Well without men women would just be "wo". Wait. Thats not right.

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      • I can't add much more than Seggi's post but I will say this; men not being upfront with their problems is a massive problem in our society and it needs to be eliminated. There seems to be belief that men relaying their problems to others is a form of weakness, but in reality this is harmful to men in general. You could consider it an symptom of the problem of gender roles in our society.

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      • Ehh who cares men die when they die we can't whine about funding and crap.

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      • Hot chicks deserve it

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      • o_O I just was reading this on Reddit.

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      • what ever happened to men's rights

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      • I blame elegiac

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      • "Or because they need more work done to stay up to par with the norm we set. If you keep them busy enough with themselves then they can't focus on improving you."~ quoth the Raven

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        • SEXISTS EQUALITY! MEN MUST HAVE MORE HEALTH FUNDING!

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        • Another reason why I'll never live there.

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          • Ironically enough, I have no political drive. I did raise money for Movember for two years, though.

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          • Edited by A Forum Cop: 1/4/2014 8:35:29 PM
            edit: OP didn't get the joke, removed.

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