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2/4/2008 9:17:06 PM
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Bans not as significant in Member Ranks as we think?

I came on to Bnet yesterday to find out I recieved a message from one of my many friends. The message was to tell me that he had been "promoted" to Heroic Member status, which greatly suprised both him and myself. He has had many bans, more than the both of us can remember, his most recent being about 2 months ago. His join date is mid-2005, and does have an attached GT. The only thing that I could see that would get him the title, other than the fact that his account is getting old, is that over the past month he has been posting more constructively than usual. So if anyone out there has a potential explanation for this, it would be greatly appreciated.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] aku [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Big Black Bear I hate to highlight a specific user (and bump a topic at the same time.... Man I'm gonna get bant), but can you explain [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=17635912]this[/url]?[/quote] For one thing, titles are judged once a day. I have no idea when that time is, but it's possible that it hasn't happened yet, and so that wouldn't have affected his title yet. But from looking at his join date, it's possible that he was pushing closer to mythic than to heroic. So a ban would drop him lower, but not over the line. Besides, you can't go around expecting every punishment to show immediate and obvious consequences.[/quote]Looks like you were right.... Good call.
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  • Well atleast now i no i can get promoted even though i have been banned once. =]
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  • Hmm, well I have been banned a total of 3 times over 4 years, mostly for replying to spam (I just can't let a stupid comment go...). Anyways, I was a legendary member until my most recent ban and now I am heroic. I have no idea how it works. I would like my legendary back though... :(
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  • This system will never be explained. I was banned for a few months in 2004 for posting a screenshot of Halo 2. That was a LONG wait. Shoulda read the rules. "Tiss is but foolishness to try and crack the bungie system." [Edited on 02.20.2008 10:56 PM PST]
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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Big Black Bear I hate to highlight a specific user (and bump a topic at the same time.... Man I'm gonna get bant), but can you explain [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=17635912]this[/url]?[/quote] For one thing, titles are judged once a day. I have no idea when that time is, but it's possible that it hasn't happened yet, and so that wouldn't have affected his title yet. But from looking at his join date, it's possible that he was pushing closer to mythic than to heroic. So a ban would drop him lower, but not over the line. Besides, you can't go around expecting every punishment to show immediate and obvious consequences.
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  • In my entire history here I have been warned two times, NEVER banned, but I still went from Heroic to member before the glitches with the member titles came.
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  • I hate to highlight a specific user (and bump a topic at the same time.... Man I'm gonna get bant), but can you explain [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=17635912]this[/url]?
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  • I am a heroic member but I never got no message? Is my title still glitched ?
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  • I will never become Heroic
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pain Relief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] warrior nick well what the hell i ranked down![/quote] Achronos was playing around with the ranks today. I think he adjusted the weightings on certain factors, allowing more people to be Heroic and Legendary. Appaently you were affected negatively by this.[/quote] and thus you become legendary, what a joke. I've been on this site for a lot longer than you. Granted, I have like 20-30 or so bans, but I've been good lately lol [Edited on 02.06.2008 11:42 AM PST]
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  • This whole site is werid.. just don't ask questions.
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  • Bans might just have a HUGE impact for a short term, but not forever. ^^
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos Without the actual username, it is impossible to tell. But ranks are assigned based on where your trust rating falls within the range of possible trust ratings for that day. Bans affect trust by applying a negative influence for a period of time after the ban takes place. The amount of that influence and the length of it are directly proportional to the severity (length) of the ban. So, basically, if he got a few short bans, it is easily possible for you to get back into positive status after a sufficient amount of time. But, again, without the login name of the account, I can't do anything other than speculate.[/quote]Achronos could you have a look at my trust rating please? IMy brother and I share a computer (he is L3W15 7) unfortunately for me he got a 2 week ban and so the soul sends me a lovely PM about using an alt account to bypass a blacklist. I PM recon Number 54 and he reduces the ban to the time when my brother's expires as a favor (which I am most grateful of) however after this unfair (1 day ban) I am demoted from Heroic status to Member after having the title for about a month and being a good member throughout this time. Due to this I think bans have a HUGE impact on the trust system unless that one ban mounted on top of others way before and was enough to push me over the edge. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Thanks, ~TOM T 117
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  • i had a 3 day bann some time ago in the end of December or january but i did not rank up or anything and no im not demanding that i get ranked up i just want to know if that bann was the cause of it or if it is because i am not as old as some of the members
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] warrior nick well what the hell i ranked down![/quote] Achronos was playing around with the ranks today. I think he adjusted the weightings on certain factors, allowing more people to be Heroic and Legendary. Appaently you were affected negatively by this.
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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spareanygp I've been here since '05, but just got off a 3 month ban in the end of January. That was my first ban. I should be a... what?[/quote]Achronos said that the trust is calculated once a day. I don't know what that time is but give it 24 hours and if your title is the same then that is probably what it'll stay at unless they make some further adjustments. [Edited on 02.05.2008 8:01 PM PST]
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  • Guess Bungie felt bad for him and gave him a pity promotion. Just kidding. Anyways, that is a bit strange.
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  • I've been here since '05, but just got off a 3 month ban in the end of January. That was my first ban. I should be a... what?
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  • interesting, very interesting
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  • well what the hell i ranked down!
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  • I forgot my 1st acct user and pass and its not deleted yet. Wonder if I could get those details......... Oct 06 btw
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] prometheus25 This is good news! Hey, [i]Foman[/i]! Those bogus warns against us some time ago don't affect us anymore. Horray![/quote] Oh we all know you both deserved those warnings.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] warrior nick Maybe I'm just a sweet bungie.net poster keepin it real in teh interwebz forums?[/quote] Ahaha, you are, you are.
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  • Maybe I'm just a sweet bungie.net poster keepin it real in teh interwebz forums?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos As I suspected. Most of his bans are spaced out a good month or two from each other. And his most recent one was just a quick 3 day ban... a month ago. It is not surprising that the negative influence from such bans has worn off. I'd say the system is working fairly well - getting in trouble isn't the end of the world if you right the ship and stop being a problem. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pain Relief [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1290073]This[/url] is the account I am speaking of.[/quote][/quote]That seems to make sense now. Thanks for clearing that up.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos And his most recent one was just a quick 3 day ban... a month ago. It is not surprising that the negative influence from such bans has worn off. [/quote] This is good news! Hey, [i]Foman[/i]! Those bogus warns against us some time ago don't affect us anymore. Horray!
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