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Edited by SefTheGreat: 8/31/2014 8:55:49 PM
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BUNGIE Please Hear Me About RAIDS

Please please please do not dumb it down or nerf the mode just to cater to people that want the game their way. Stick to your gut decision and keep things the way you made it! Don't add match-making. I understand and respect your decision on why you chose not to include it for this mode. You will have a wave of people complaining and talking about how they don't like it and since the people that dislike something usually voice their opinions the most developers tend to listen to them thinking they represent the masses. Too many games have been ruined by complainers, entitleist, and unskilled gamers voicing their opinions the loudest. I'm gear to say great job Bungie, keep doing what your doing. For every one person that says they hate it there's 10 more that loves it. In the words of Charlie Sheen you guys are WINNING! [b]Update:[/b] After reading Bungies recent weekly update I'm confident they will stick to their guns. They are very generous with allowing your progress to be saved up to 7 days to complete a raid. I am glad to hear the new information and Bungie is continuing to do a great job. I love that only the character i complete a encounter with will be locked out from getting more loot. I planned on having multiple characters anyway. [b][u]Update #2[/u][/b] If you agree with this HIT the Star button to show your support. Almost like your signature of a petition to show your support.
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  • It astounds me that people defend the lack of matchmaking. Do you really give a **** if someone has the chance to try a Raid with a pickup group? Does it somehow diminish your gameplay? In reality, objecting to matchmaking is a simple superiority complex. People think they somehow deserve to play more of the game because they are willing to populate their friend list with random people to get around an artificial barrier to gameplay. The truth of the matter, is that having a potentially bad experience with a pickup group, is a better option than restricting the ability to do Raids entirely. It's my choice to try a raid with random people or not - at least it SHOULD be my choice. After all, I paid the same amount of money for the game experience as someone with 200 "friends" on their list.
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    • I'm just tired of getting praydeths revenge and atheons epilogue. I don't need 9 of them! Lol
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      • Explain, in detail, the difference between matchmaking and finding random players on destinylfg or this forum...
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        Agree DO NOT CATER to these kids.
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      • I really don't see how scouring the f*cling forums for randoms is any better than matchmaking
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        • Any one want to raid in level 25 warlock but I completed 3 raids on my level 27 hunter I switch weapons and add me on PS3 sargentdave415
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          • I do just wanna say, it isn't generous to keep a 7 day raiding lockout, they just followed suit. But I do agree with the rest
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          • Bump
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          • I don't want the raid nerfed. I want the glitches fixed.
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            • Did a pick up last Tuesday first time. Went to the 360 raid thread posted. Full fire team in ten minutes. A little convo and we beat it in three hours wiping from glitches and a couple of us newbies not knowing what was happening. But awesome otherwise. Added some to my friends list to go again next week.
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              • What bungie needs to do is check the rewards. I hate completing the raid to only receive shatter white for tge third time that week.
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                • Edited by splattherpunk: 11/8/2014 9:59:44 PM
                  Dude, people who have done a ton of raids want matchmaking because they are just sick of having to spam the forums. Your dumb down point of view is just snobbish. Get over yourself. The raid isn't hard on normal.
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                  • Dude stfu. Hate to burst your bubble dude but this game needs it. There is no valid reason to not have it. Just a bunch of retarded opinions and like assholes everyone has them and they all stink.
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                    • Edited by BrisVegasBretto: 11/6/2014 11:29:41 PM
                      This forum will erupt (and not in a good way) if they were to put Raid match-making in. So I'm all for it. :) Personally I wouldn't go anywhere near a Raid playlist. I can see why people are asking for it (generally no one on their friend's list or alternatively they're casual players), but there is a far better way to get into a RAID. There's already a 3rd party dedicated system in place for it and other things like the Thorn Bounty. DestinyLFG. The site's great. and it's pretty easy to market yourself to a group looking for a player or players. If someone takes the initiative to post there you can at least form the assumption they're committed to the run. Find a post from a group looking for a player and respond. EG Have Mic/Experience. Have X weapons at X level. We usually grab one or two from this site each week when running raids on alts. I think we've had one bad egg in the last 3 weeks. Booted him and grabbed another and then had a smooth run. Those against the Raid match making will most likely never jump into the playlist anyway. Its inclusion really won't be that much of a bother. To those who want it, I believe their opinion will change very fast. Like strikes, it would be plagued with quitters and those spawned into an existing game to make up the numbers will be less likely to stick around if they're not going to get all the loot or alternatively don't get the loot they want. I believe it will be abused by those looking to be carried. Those who genuinely want the run, will be left bitter, jaded and disappointed. The first 10 pages of this forum will be subsequently filled with "Fix broken raid match making" threads.
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                      • You guys realize this was posted in August, right?
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                        • If they do I will not play this game anymore nor the sequel.I payed for a challenge not training wheels.
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                          • ever heard.
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                            • Edited by YoshiMitsuri: 8/31/2014 2:00:18 AM
                              Please stop. Just stop. Stop acting like matchmaking is anything like LFR in wow. Also, there is no REAL reason against matchmaking, and barely any for. Everyone's opinions on matchmaking are based off of a previous experience in a different game. Im for it because i really enjoyed the expert runs through L4D with randoms. I made most of my friends list in steam from that and PayDay2. However im perfectly aware that this isnt always the case. The biggest reason FOR, is that theres no simple way to advertise for your recruitment, or for more members (known as of yet). HOWEVER. The idea that matchmaking makes the game 'easier' is complete bullshit. And anyone who panders that idea needs a slap.
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                              • Listen to this guy ^
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                              • Actually for every complaint there are 10 more that don't post. No including a matchmaking system for raids doesn't mean that the raid won't undergo changes, no developer creates content that only a small portion of players ever see. The calls for a matchmaking system are there as there are no other social tools to recuit other players or make friends. When Final Fantasy introduced the matchmaker for coil(there raid) the difficulty actually increased as more players were doing the content.
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                                • [quote]unskilled gamers[/quote] represent the majority of a user base. So personally I think their opinion is far more important than the highly skilled players of a game.
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                                  • I would actually like mm or a board, to find other players in game. I don't want to use outside methods. Even though I support mm, I don't want the Raids to be nerfed. Though if it justifiably needs a nerf. Then so be it. Just because something is nerfed, that doesn't mean ppl suck and or it was unnecessary.
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                                    • I'm in a clan and chose to for the fact of no matchmaking. Still, I hope they put it in just for those who would like to attempt still. We can still always party up and go raid outside of matchmaking. Plus if you only have a team of 3-5 matchmaking will make it easy to fill the extra slot. ;) just imo.
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                                      I would put a pay check down that Raids are nerfed within 3 months. Here is how I suspect the nerf to happen: - The hard core folk will reach end game content and will clear the raids - The common folk will get there later and not clear it as quickly, or not at all - Common PVE'ers will slowly stop playing as they will get bored of the same strikes, and wiping on Raids - A decrease in the number of people playing will cause a decrease in potential revenues from DLC - Bungie will nerf the Raids to keep the common PVE'ers happy and higher number of players to ensure solid revenues from DLC Why this is a good thing, for everyone - More players equals more money from customers - More money equals more development for the game and content for everyone - Less money equals the opposite Bungie needs to make money. Not because they are greedy but because that is what companies do.
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                                      • I want epic raids...legendary adventures...i want to say holy guacamole WTF was that!! ermigherd WE DID IT!...instead of ....yeah..i just killed the final boss with the starter weapon..( BTW Would that be an achievement?)
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                                        • The people doing the Raid with you don't have to be on your friends list, right? Just in your fireteam of six?
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