[quote]Don't like it don't use it. We also have no confirmed hard facts on raids. Yes they've said they're super duper hard but that may be an exaggeration, a marketing tactic.[/quote] Someone at bungie said it took a fire team of 6, 4 hours to beat a raid...they made the game and it took 4 hours maybe they didn't work on that raid when they helped make the game but still they work at bungie so they play games naturally. 4 hours I wish I had games where 1 mission took 4 hours and was an fps