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Edited by AuriSakura: 7/31/2014 12:59:44 PM
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Bad Move Bungie on Raid

[b]Stupid move , Bungie! Really Stupid Move![/b] -Making a team and friends took at least few days or weeks just to get people join in! I remembered clearly when I was on FF14 to kill Hydra or Chimera that I need a stupid party just to play and there is no matchmaking. You know how long it took me to get that party ? 6 damn days to built a party which last only 2-5 hours! Just to play that quest I wish it not suppose to exist!! After a while, some quit, new come ! It be lots easier if: 1) You just [b]add MatchMaking[/b] and who ever leave will gain some penalty: Like 3 hour or more not able to enter Vault! I do not care how long you wanna penalize but longer should enough!Add to 1-3 player who want to quit during mission. Wasn't that more fair to others? No one ask to quit anyway! 2) Whoever leave , just enter with new one and join together to[b] play it like you did in Strike[/b]. You done well on Strike but poor in Raid!? WTH! 3) Sometimes stranger make better movement than friends cause everyone skill is different as tactical too. Used to have a friends played together , end up all die but when join with 1-2 stranger, they can kill better than us and without KO![b] " Look outside the window, you will find more idea than you look at the ceiling!!" [/b] 4) When some buddy got a good loots, [b]they will abandon you slowly. [/b]Good friends are most capable in betraying you like [b]Microsoft did to you!! [/b]You said that yourself and you still repeating your same history!? 5) [b]World time is different![/b] Have few friends from US and UK but time cant match up cause I live in Asia. Remember there is a time zone in this world! People plays in R1 or R2 or R3 doesn't make that person live in USA or UK !? 6) Beside to enter inside, we need lvl > 22 gear etc , why other cant join us!? Cause we all stranger and they not invite into this party?? [b]Stupid answers! [/b]and why you added matchmaking in first place in all other game type include crucible!?? 7) [b]You told us that this Vault of Glass is very challenging raid and long at least 3 hour with some bla bla.., [/b]so what the problem if I want to bring others than my friends to join in. If person wanna quit, just penalize them! When they are in Vault of Glass, they know what they do, they are not baby ! Even my daughter age 15 y/o know that rules! My baby used to be suck in FPS. She cant shoot straight, hide when others is shooting, being knife by others thousand times!!, but she have desire and passion is strong with her. I thought her sniping, teach her tactical I know so far and she spend at least 3-4 hour alone in EXPLORE just to train her sniper and if you see, among 891 kill, most were using sniper, knife hs and tab auto rifle. For you, hero is born but for me, hero is created. Every players is idiot and noob in first place but my question is [b]Are they forever listed as noob? Even they do have a great gear, go in without a brain install in head also a major problem to others![/b] Much more to go and[b] just leave an option to join via MatchMaking or with friend choice. [/b]You could made lots players happy that way and problem is solve!! Getting a good team is our problem now and not your problem! Trust me Bungie! Be a gamers yourself then you will know what we needs and this is not a demand but this is our need as gamers. PS: Pardon my English Dust cause that language is not my primary.
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  • Isn't there a clan system? Isn't that what clans are for? Hey whomever is on wanna do this raid? Plus raids take time to prepare for, you shouldn't be just "jumping" into a raid on the fly, you will get destroyed. Not to insult anyone, but I don't think some of the more prevalent FPS players are really getting what a raid is, or how they work. If you actually want to complete a raid then you need to take time to build the team to do it. Matchmaking just wouldn't give you the experience that a raid should be. You don't want to get 2 hours into a raid only to have one or two members of your team quit because they weren't prepared for how long it'd take. You won't finish without the whole team, so you've basically wasted two hours and come away with nothing but frustration. It just wouldn't be fun. I understand that with some of the social aspects missing from this game people are worried about finding guys to do the raid, but let's give bungie some credit and rely on them to fix that. The raid isn't even available until level twenty and really probably not possible to complete until post 20. That's more than enough time to make friends and set up a raid. Bungie accelerated xp accumulation and leveling in the beta, so it won't be a fast level up like that after launch.
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    • Look, difficult raids plus random people on the internet don't work. This true of any mmo I've ever played. If everyone isn't communicating and familiar with who they're working with then things go south real fast. Also not to be a smug ass or anything but if you can't get 5 friends, or 5 people you met in the game already because raids are end game content so you should have met people already then maybe you should spend more time making friends with people so you can work with them. This message is not directed specifically at the OP, this is directed to everyone screaming their heads off and I would love to see a legitimate counter argument from people who have raid experience from wow, and neverwinter, and so on.
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      • Totally agree on any point raised by you. Bad move bungie I could even cancel my preorder for that.
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        • All other forms of coherent argument aside, if it took you [b]six days[/b] to make a party for Hydra then you weren't trying. It was a mandatory fight and everybody needed to do it multiple times per character. I didn't even read your post past that point because it's based on a farce.
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          • I would like to see a social hub in the tower where people can go if they want to do a raid. With a form of chat, so you know who has a mic.
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          • Bungie said they are so proud of their match making system but it seems its not good enough for Raids, what kind of message dose that send. And people are the problem not the system of match making.
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            • I would like to see a social hub in the tower where people can go if they want to do a raid. With a form of chat, so you know who has a mic.
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              • you make a LOT of good points here. we want matchmaking for raids
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                • Agreed
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