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Edited by Jradical: 7/25/2014 8:29:10 AM
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ENCRYPTED ENGRAMS EXPLOIT (possibly)?

So overall the game is extraordinary. But there are a few little tweaks that I noticed should be done for the full release (assuming they haven't been fixed already). So first of all, there's a few exploits I'd like to point out about the cryptarch and encrypted items. Let's say if I were to pick up an encrypted engram at level 2, and were to decrypt it right away, I would get a similar level item for my class. However, if I held onto that engram until I was level 8, all of a sudden I decrypt it and I have a level 8 or above item. I believe the engram should give you an item based on the level you were when you picked it up, and not based on the level you are when you decrypt it. Otherwise, you'll see people holding on to encrypted items all game until they decrypt 50 engrams at level 20 to get good items, using this as an exploit. Secondly, when you pick up an encrypted armor piece for your class (ex warlock), before decrypting it you can vault it and pick it up with a different class (ex Titan) and decrypt it, it is now an item for the Titan class and not warlock. Not sure if that is meant to be this way or not, but I thought I'd point it out just the same. Lastly, this is just an opinion of mine and almost every other player I've talked to on the beta: We believe that the beta progress should absolutely be transferred over to the full game. I don't really care if we lose our level, but at least let us keep some loot, SOMETHING. At this point, so many people are playing the beta that there would not be an "unfair advantage" but more so it would be unfair to the huge majority of players who actually did pre-order and play the beta. It sometimes took hours to get good gear and items and crucible ranks, not to mention legendaries from the iron banner. Why give us legendaries that we can't use if the progress won't transfer? This is just an opinion so please enough with the disrespectful "it's just a beta what do you expect" comments. And to clear this up, my opinion on the game won't change regardless of whether or not progress transfers, but personally I would prefer it to. Hope you read this Bungie! But seriously, goddamn great game!! EDIT: I'm learning through the comments that the engrams rarity depends on your cryptarch level. Therefore making it less of an exploit. If you held onto those items until level 20 before you decrypted them, you would get less rare items because your cryptarch level is low.
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  • Edited by ExT3rM1N8r: 9/16/2014 3:59:10 AM
    Hey guys looking for some folks to raid with. I'm a level 25 hunter. Ps4 name is EXT3RM1N8R. Alarm set for 5 am
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  • I just want our gear and inventory to carry over which Bungie is capable of but erasing our character itself is fine with me
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  • I think one problem with holding onto the engrams is that your engram ranks don't go up. I could be wrong, but when I got my cryptarch rank to 3 I was getting blue's lvl 10 from green engrams. If I held onto the engrams I wouldn't level and just be getting a bunch of green at lvl 20. :/ I don't really see much of a problem with transferring the engrams either. Whether this was intended or not, I doubt it would change much for the reason stated above and also because your new character will more than likely come across a bunch of engrams on their way to the top. So you transfer it and decrypt at lvl 1 you'll just get a bunch of lvl 1 stuff. You wait till lvl 4 and you're likely to have come across the same number of engrams you transferred already, and still you'll just get lvl 4 stuff. The problem I do see in transferring, however, is that if you're using this to simply level your cryptarch ranks then we may see a bunch of lvl 1's with a high cryptarch capacity.
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    • I get my first legendary boots lvl 20 when the cryptarch hits lvl 3. Then i got something in the Mailbox and there was a blue engram. Nice blue engram. Back to the cryptarch. Legendary boots lvl 20...wtf? Oo
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      • The vanguard armory preorder bonus will probably give us some good stuff that non beta players won't have, and starting over won't be too bad. It makes it kind of funny that people are grinding to get the best possible stuff just for the beta. Seems kind of funny to me
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      • as a alpha player and beta player i can say i dont wanna keep my character at all i wanna start fresh with the knowledge i have of the game and wanna enjoy all the content there is to do though i am hoping the xp gain gets nerfed dramatically matter of hours to go from lev 1 to 8 is ridiculous unless bungie is planning a cap at 50-100 area then it would be fine to fly up as fast as we do as far as your enagram exploit it was a feature in both the alpha and beta now a level 8 white weapon has 51 attack on it a level 8 green has 57 attack and can be upgraded to 62 attack that is 11 point difference between a white and fully upgraded green that is not a large difference in normal mode of the crucible those whites are just as good as greens or even a lev 20 legendary in pve your only gonna be shaving off a couple mins off your run of devils lair by using whites over greens far as straight damage goes now legendary enagrams and rare enagrams are not the loot that bungie was talking about for earning that is common gear easy to get exotics are gonna be the loot that sets players apart
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        • Yeah, sure, you can hoard all your greens until max level but why hobble yourself? It's not like they're super rare.
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        • This isn't a glitch or an exploit, it's how the game was made. Deal with it.
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          • I think neither DEEJ nor anyone in Bungie is gonna give a (insert your favorite here) if some people keep saying the same thing, " I worked so hard for that loot blah blah blah". It would be ok, I guess, to keep all that but I doesn't matter to me, I can play again and have fun again doing it. Bottom line is, buddy 1 If you think you are "working" or "doing bungie a favor so they owe me" you need some help. This is a game, a great and fun game but a game. Nobody forced you to play it or to pre-order, it was your choice. 2 This same request have been made like 20.000 times just go there and agree with those people. And 3 This is a little bit of "troll rage" but I just cant find any other way to express this. Go home, pack any "gaming" device you have and sell it, if you keep considering games as a responsibility you are just doing it wrong. You were supposed to have fun and explore a really promising new game, give some tips to the creators of what you think and make suggestions about it. Consider this next time you use that "I work soooooo hard for this" in a beta, there people that actually do this as a job, they do get paid for it and they play the same 5-20 min of game over and over and over.......... (3 hours later) and over again to find bugs and things like that but even those guys miss stuff. Have a good day buddy and don't go to work on Destiny anymore... Put your armor on, grab a riffle and defend the last city on earth. See you in game.
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            • Edited by Mandingo: 7/23/2014 4:48:16 AM
              No, Delete everything, this is a BETA to test the game, they are people out there that don't have access to the game, some will wait 5-6 days till they receive the game. Just no, delete everything every one start at zero. And I don't see the logic of your title and your little rant of : beta should be transferred . It will SPLIT the community/players in half. your fault if you wasted your time of grinding. Your post is retarded , I hope Bungie wont waste time on this.
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              • i keep seeing people saying things like "ive worked so hard for my gear." Well thats your own fault. Everyone knows this is a beta and not the final build. Lots of stuff can already be changed in the final build. Like how fast you level yourself and your weapons/armor. The type of unlocks and upgrades on each weapon and how fast you rank up with venders. I have the epic hand cannon from the iron banner event, and im still on the side of everything should be wiped come launch.
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                • I laugh at all you silly ppl. If the loot is transfered I dont care, if its not I dont care. Its extremely easy and fast to get good stuff. Didnt take no grinding. I especially dont care cause I get the vanguard armour n weapon pack at launch. Get your game up.
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                  • The minimum I would like to see transferred over is the Dead Ghosts and Grimorie to be transferred over. I really don't feel like finding them again as some of them are in really odd places and as I have already explored most of Old Russia to death I would be aggrieved to be forced to do it again. Gear, Level and Money are easy and i am not bothered about transferring them over.
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                    • I think RNG was abused as a child :(
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                      • in alpha the higher lvl you got with him the better the random gear would be, as for decoding a green has a chance to white or blue, not just green, also when you now rank up with him he sends you gifts, at lvl 6 you get a purple engram, this could give you a gold, if you wanted to, you could farm glimmer make a new char get him to lvl 6, and keep doing that, on that note alone gear should not be kept. all will be lost ill be surprised if its not, would I like to keep my gear? who would not, but im not going to kid my self.
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                      • Edited by HappyCatfish35: 7/24/2014 3:54:07 PM
                        Why is this not getting enough attention, this is a small thing that really needs to be fixed. Otherwise nobody will decode engrams till level 20.
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                      • I don't think anything should be transferred over to the main game. I do think, that all of the rep that we grind and the gear we have gotten from said grinding of rep should be transferred over. The gear I would say transfer into more rep or something. And definitely get a bonus for having reached a certain level in rep for the player.
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                      • Oh come on guys. Honestly, how long did it take for you to get to level 8? An hour? Maybe 2 or 3? Its not that big a hassle.
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                        • I agree with atleast transferring the items stored in your vault , but not transfer the characters
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                        • Im on the fence with this and have seen it "talked" about on here. I will say I think/hope Rare and Legendary stuff carries over. I find myself grinding vanguard rep. in hopes for some kick #$# gear to stare at(sigh) which I'm still not sure why. Maybe it's the fact I love the game and will do it again if need be.
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                          • I agree with what you say. To be honest even if you had a low cryptarch level it still wouldn't hurt to hold onto them all until 20 as you could straight away deck yourself out in uncommon gear with 20 or 30 engrams saved. I've been getting nothing but grief over my feedback. The trolls on this forum make it hardly worth while posting feedback. They've just got nothing constructive to say.
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                            • To be fair, when decrypting Encrypted Engrams half of what you get is white trash and the other half is usually useless to your character because of bad stats, a bonus that doesn't affect you, or while being a decent weapon with a good stat, it's not the type you use to get your gear bonuses. Only 1 out of 30 Encrypted Engrams has even been useful to me on the character I was on when it dropped, and finding any Titan or Warlock gear with "Auto-Rifle Anything" on it was next to impossible...so leave it alone I think, let people save up and then spam the Cryptarch until you have a full set of decent gear and then send the rest to the Vault for later use on someone else.
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                            • This is good, not an exploit. It gives you a decision! You can use the engram at level 2 and get a level 2 item most likely stronger than your current one, or save it till level 20, but miss out on a probably better item for your level 2. Either way, its not like its giving them infinity engrams, so leave it.
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                            • I see where you are coming from on encrypted gear, but disagree with you and think its fine the way it is. But if Bungie changes it, it's not that big of a deal to me. But yes, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us keep the loot we have worked so hard to get!!!
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                            • This is totally balanced by the cryptarch rank. Sure you decoded a bunch of stuff at 20 but then it turned out your rank was crap and you got all white items. Higher rank gives better loot. I have soo many cool things by powering up the cryptarch rank.
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                              • Engrams are such an easy way to get gear right now, and the cryptarch rep is absolutely free and easy as well. You even get rep just for buying from him. I wouldn't be surprised if, in the full release, we have to pay some glimmer to get things decrypted
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