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Edited by TheSpiderChief: 4/30/2014 1:21:33 PM
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So, all past Star Wars games are now non-canon...

I suppose that makes Darth Revan, Starkiller, and many other characters fan-fiction now, doesn't it? I don't think Lucasfilm thought it all through when the company declared that all past Star Wars games are now non-canon, I mean, what about the games tied around the films such as Rogue Squadron? Are the events in those games now non-canon making the films themselves non-canon? Do we have to wait for the [i]real[/i] Star Wars films? Edit: This does give me a great idea for cosplay though :D

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  • So no Shadows of the Empire and Dash Rendar?! That one hurts.

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  • So you're saying Darth Vader [i]didn't[/i] indirectly start the rebellion? Good.

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  • The franchise is close to 40 years old. Of COURSE you're going to have breaks in the continuity. When franchises get this big, it's almost impossible to keep any sense of real continuity going... that's part of the reason why I think franchises shouldn't get this big in the first place. It becomes more about being a franchise and selling crap instead of telling a story.

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  • It doesn't particularly bother me too much, but perhaps I simply lack the same perspective that you guys have. Just because Disney wants more freedom over what was previously a largely unregulated intellectual property doesn't invalidate what made those original stories good in the first place. In a way it's a bit like how comic books have alternate universes right? I'm curious to see how many cues Disney chooses to take from the extended universe and where they choose to diverge. And naturally if I don't like the ultimate product I'll be happy to share my concerns :)

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  • Starkiller was badass I want force unleashed 3

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  • [quote]Darth Revan,[/quote] No, he's canon. Darth Bane was in the Clone Wars TV show, and he learned from Revan.

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    • Meh. Revan's story was -blam!-ed up by the books and TOR. Another reason why I only consider the movies+KOTOR games as canon.

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    • It does not really matter. The entire story is fictional anyway. Although I know without a doubt The Old Republic is Canon. It is a major part of the very Early Republic days.

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    • It's only post-RTJ

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    • Starkiller was always fan fiction...

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    • >implying lucasfilm ever cared about a video game released 11 years ago

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    • Who in their right mind would retcon KOTOR? [i]Who in their right mind would retcon KOTOR?![/i]

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      • It's just plain stupidity.

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      • Boba Fett still lives on...just in my heart now...Now if you excuse me I'm going to go read some of my fan-faction that I payed for...

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        • If you think about it, the films themselves aren't even canon...

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        • Edited by Elrond Hubbard: 4/30/2014 10:27:47 PM
          SrgtSilver64 says only post ROTJ-EU is declared non-canon, and I'm inclined to agree with him. Why does everyone think the [i]entire[/i] EU (including a currently-running MMO) is now non-canon? [quote]In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, [b]Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the [u]post-Return of the Jedi[/u] Expanded Universe.[/b][/quote]

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          • Does it [i]really[/i] matter? I mean, I'm sure we all have our own head canon anyway. Just because KotOR and stuff is no longer officially recognised, doesn't mean we can't enjoy it all the same, right?

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            • Are you trying to tell me Lego Star Wars isn't canon?

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              • >authorize the creation of games and novels >rake in the millions >declare authorized content non-cannon -blam!-ing genius LucasArts, -blam!-ing genius.......

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              • Edited by Turtlenomad: 4/30/2014 9:57:16 PM
                >:( [spoiler]I heard Star Wars: The Clone Wars is still canon tho.[/spoiler]

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                • Edited by c4rnus: 4/30/2014 10:12:18 PM
                  [quote]> Darth Revan no longer canon.[/quote]My tears. My tears are everywhere.

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                • Doesn't really change anything. All those storys are fiction anyway. If in your head you decide that the games really happened, so be it. It's not like its real history, it's a fiction story.

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                  • I thought it was just all games,books, and comics set after Jedi?

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                    • So Reven, Bastila, the Exile are now just non canon?

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                      • The problem rises from assuming that these ever [i]were[/i] canon. In the eyes of George Lucas, the closest a game ever came to being canon was The Force Unleashed. None of the books ever were canon to him, nor were the games. And that's how it still is. But that doesn't mean we can't keep enjoying what we have. Until outright contradicted, these characters and stories can exist as they always have. For now, I doubt they're going to go all the way back to the time of KotOR to throw that one out. And many other Star Wars games feature new characters in new situations that occur far from the action anyway (a la Kyle Katarn defeating Imperial warlords and such). Are they overwritten? Not really. They can still exist as they are, until they've been replaced. Besides, canon's a fickle bitch right now, and they'll surely make callbacks to EU sources already in existence going forward (apparently they're already doing that with Rebels). By incorporating old things in new films, they'll solidify themselves in canon. But the parts that aren't replaced can still exist just fine, for now. The Clone Wars made a mention of Darth Bane. Darth Bane (if I'm remembering correctly) picked up some of what he'd learned from Revan. Bane, with mention in the Clone Wars, is officially canon. Now whether they'll change his past or leave it be has yet to be seen.

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                      • Edited by SrgtSilver: 4/29/2014 4:56:03 PM
                        Actually they didn't say all past star wars games in canon timeline. They meant previously made games that occur AFTER the movies canon wise. This allows them to have free reign over the course of where they want to go. Games that are before the movies canonically speaking, are safe from touch.

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