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5/15/2013 11:46:06 PM
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Absolutely. Tenure is important, more so to the new members of the community than the old members, but it does categorize us amongst each other. If there is anything the title system did well, it encouraged positive investment into a single account. If you wanted a "higher" title, you had to stay clean and active. With more means of investing into a single account now (followers, mutes/hides/, groups etc) adding another layer of investment (through titles), would encourage positive behavior even more.
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  • [quote]With more means of investing into a single account now (followers, mutes/hides/, groups etc) adding another layer of investment (through titles), would encourage positive behavior even more.[/quote]While I don't disagree about maybe seeing more investment systems appear on Bnet would increase the use of a single account, I am not 100% on the "positive" aspect of which you speak. The old title system didn't reward positive behavior, it only rewarded [i]avoiding[/i] negative behavior, IMO.

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  • You say tomato, I say tomato. (more difficult in internet lingo!) I can sit here and say the prefixes encouraged positive behavior from post count (regularly being active) but yes, the kicker [i]was[/i] also avoiding the banhammer for the honorable, noble and exalted. Half empty, half full, matter of perspective. Surely some of us remember the monthly "gathering" in Duardo's FAQ Title Bar thread where users would see each other shift titles at the beginning of each month. I think the old title system did have a positive role in many members bungie.net experience as they shared those experiences. But what I don't know is how many people valued them as a whole and it's hard to judge that. The point is that either way, users had to be relatively active to attain [i]something[/i]. Whether that was hanging out in private groups for a blue bar for 6+ years, or posting daily seeing themselves unlock the Fabled title. Investment systems are never a bad thing and I look forward to what's down the pipes for this website build in the future.

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  • *You say tomato i say tomahtoh xD

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  • It also encouraged shameless +1 type posts for the sake of bolstering activity.

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  • How so?

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  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that the old system's titles were based on the length of a user's activity. That is a user advanced from normal, to Heroic, to Legendary, to Mythic by having long periods of activity without accumulating too many bans/warnings. So then if users stopped posting frequently for even a week, their rank would drop. So to stop that people would take a quick drop by The Flood to let loose some cheap posts to keep up their activity, and thus their rank (This of course, goes outside the prefixes like Fabled, Exalted, Absent, etc).

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  • Edited by Spawn: 5/16/2013 1:12:37 AM
    While I don't know the exact parameters on how the old system worked, it was noticeable that it was based on continuous activity over any given period of time while avoiding negative marks (band and warnings) against you -as you mentioned. From your end, perhaps you may hve seen uses using "throwaway" post to just keep their title, but I honestly believe that people didn't worry about such metrics unless they were clearly after the intrepid or fabled titles. I understand your point, but I believe that adding a badges or title system back into this version will increase user investment into a single account. Where as the old system ONLY has the title system to worry about, but there is (and always will be) an overwhelmingly amount of members that don't care to invest time into their account. They just want the latest Destiny information from Bungie and you won't see them for another week. I think adding a system like this would encourage those uses to stay around a bit longer and participate in discussions more often. Considering we also have more ways to connect to a bungie.net account through google and Facebook.

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