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Project L.A.S.O: Now Under 4 HOURS! And Time Down To 03:37:54 HOURS!!

[i][u][b]*Note: New Stuff two posts below*[/b][/u][/i] [url=http://www.thehaloraiders.org/]The Halo Raiders Website[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/laso/Group/GroupHome.aspx]Official Bungie.Net LASO Group[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=13669003] Ghost22's Full Skull Guide[/url] [b]Update (30th November 2007)[/b]: Finished Sierra 117 and have finally started and finished Crow's Nest (see below). [b]Update (Sometime Early December)[/b]: Cortana was done, but sadly it was done while we were offline (my house was experiencing network problems) and so there is no online report...but I took the liberty of making a video of the aftermath of finishing it, which includes the Carnage Report). [b]Update (6th January 2008)[/b]: Just did Floodgate...on my own...Shilly refused to aid me :P And I suceeded anyway! :D Saved Film and Postgame Carnage Report Below. Extra Update: Also, I just remembered...a while back, me and Shilly went through Tsavo Highway, completed it after 5 hours or so...and then since we were using my disk...which was brutally scratched...the next level didn't load...therefore the Film was never Saved in Recent Films >_<...But since it was quite hard, we've decided to leave it for now :P Another Update: I have already completed Halo on LASO from the Rally Point. There is no change from normal Legendary. [b]Update - 20th January 2008[/b] Halo was just completed an hour ago-ish. Myself, Shilly117, Sabre911 and MightyDuckK went in, kicked ass and came out of it feeling satisfied :) We'd also spent 7 hours 40 minutes doing The Storm. And...got to the part with the hunters...and Sabre lagged out :| (Which is the reasoning for no Carnage Report) Meehh...We'll be doing it again at some point in the future. Anyways, Halo's Carnage Report and Saved Film are below for viewing pleasure :) We also recorded a video after the completion of the full level (yes...I know I've not 100% finish the entire game on LASO...) but then again we did complete the entire levels, which is what counts. And we'll show the video that proves there's no 3rd alternative ending. Just Legendary. That video will be included in due course. (Can't be bothered uploading it just now :P Playing some Matchmaking, then off to do some studying and shizzle.) [u]Update[/u]: Ending Video Uploaded - See Links Below. Floodgate Coming Soon. [b]Update - 23th January 2008[/b] CYBERPLASMA and I just finished Tsavo Highway...with epic results. We did it just under an hour! Totally within viewing limits!!!!1 :P Download, watch, discuss, enjoy, celebrate! [u]Update - 27th Jan[/u] Only 2 more levels to go! MightyDuckK and I blasted our way through The Storm half an hour ago, and made it through in well under 3 hours. Just the Ark and The Covenant to go...and then we can start cutting down the times :D ...and then I suppose we'll redo Halo for all those people who want to know if the final ending cutscene shows anything different once all levels have been completed...but there shouldn't be a difference. [b][i]Update - 30th January[/i][/b] I just finished Halo on SLASO. I know we've already done this level before on L.A.S.O. but I figured I'd do it on S.L.A.S.O. both for a challenge and to see if the ending changed. Of course, it didn't ([url=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qROo9bj4HkI]Click here to see proof of this[/url]). Thanks to The Sage Knight for his quick run-through of Halo, which he did in 28 Minutes. I beat his time by about 10/12 minutes. Thanks to him for the tips though! ([url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/FileShare.aspx?gamertag=AvG%20Camouflaged]See Last File For Clip[/url]) [b][i]Update - 2nd February[/i][/b] Well, MightyDuckK and Shilly117 and I are off to do a couple levels today...and hopefully finish. Once that's done, we'll begin Speed-Running (as you can see I've had two of the fastest times yet on LASO (Floodgate and Halo). And so, in a combination of awesome SLASO runs, I'll be attempting to do them in the fastest possible time. If you have a fast time for LASO, please don't hesitate to post your clip and your fastest time and add it to the leaderboard. We'll probably be needing a new post for this (within this thread)...since there's like 414 characters left. [b]Update[/b] - 10th February 2008 Wooooooooooooooo. I don't think it gets much better than this...The Covenant=done [b]Update[/b] - 16th February 2008 It's all done :D Within an hour, myself, MightyDuckK, and our new LASOR (Legendary All Skulls On Runner) Avg Camouflaged. It's in the fileshare and looking good. All 9 levels comeplete! Now alls I gotta do is fufill your guys wants by recording the ending to SLASO again to make sure there 100% isn't a 3rd ending. This is the final level for us to have done. Congrats everyone! Now for SLASO stuff. Let's see if we can make the fastest time possible! [b]Update[/b] - 22nd April 2008 L.A.S.O.DASH is now officially comeplete! With the help of "Pahis" (Bnet Account), we have now a new Fast Overall Time of [b]06:02:43 Hours!![/b] Which is great because we suceeded in our mission of completing the game on L.A.S.O. in under 7 Hours! *Will update everything asap* [b]Update[/b] - 27nd April 2008 No more room in this post. *See next post of mine* [b]The L.A.S.O. Runners[/b] [quote][u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=SonicJohn]SonicJohn[/url] - Killer of Scarabs and other such Giants[/u] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=shilly117]Shilly117[/url] - Anchorman[/u] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=mightyduckk]MightyDuckK[/url] - Rocket Wrangler[/u] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=sabre911]Sabre911[/url] - Solo Dare-Devil[/u] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=CYBERPLASMA]CYBERPLASMA[/url] - Speed Demon[/U] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=AvG%20Camouflaged]AvG Camouflaged[/url] - Brutal Brute Devourer[/u] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=goatrope]goatrope[/url] - Speed Runner Champ[/u] [u][url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=poopisgood007]poopisgood007[/url] - LASO Guru [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=Pahat%20Pojat]Pahat Pojat[/url] - S.L.A.S.O. [b]Slayer![/b][/u] [b][i]Honorary Virtual Team Playa[/u][/i][/b]: [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/screenshot_viewer_popup.aspx?mode=pinned&gamertag=MightyDuckK&ssid=20436070]Uber Rocket Man Marine 4tw[/url][/quote] [b]Key For Understanding Acronyms:[/b] Awesome Ones: [quote][u]L.A.S.O.[/u] - Legendary All Skulls On - [i]The general catch-all name[/i] [u]S.L.A.S.O.[/u] - Solo Legendary All Skulls On - [i]For Solo Runs[/i] [u]C.L.A.S.O.[/u] - Cooperative Legendary All Skulls On - [i]For Co-op Runs [/i] [u]S.C.L.A.S.O.[/u] - Sorta Cooperative Legendary All Skulls On - [i]When one or more players out of the two/three/four in the game don't play.[/i][/quote] Fastest Time: [quote]1.[i]Sierra 117[/i] - S.L.A.S.O. [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:32:32 - Pahat Pojat 2.[i]Crow's Nest[/i] - S.L.A.S.O. [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:31:09 - Pahat Pojat 3.[i]Tsavo Highway[/i] - S.L.A.S.O. [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:42:42 - Pahat Pojat 4.[i]The Storm[/i] - S.L.A.S.O. [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:27:36 - Pahat Pojat 5.[i]Floodgate[/i] - S.L.A.S.O. - [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:04:41 - Pahat Pojat 6.[i]The Ark[/i] - S.L.A.S.O. - [u]Best Time:[/u] 01:01:50 - Pahat Pojat 7.[i]The Covenant[/i] S.L.A.S.O. - [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:47:35 - Pahat Pojat 8.[i]Cortana[/i] S.L.A.S.O [u]Best Time:[/u] 00:09:35 - Pahat Pojat 9.[I]Halo[/I] S.L.A.S.O. [U]Best Time:[/U] 00:14:00 - Pahat Pojat[/quote] [b]Overal Best L.A.S.O. Time Thus Far:[/b] 03:37:54 My Saved Films: [quote][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14378971]Sierra 117 CLASO[/url] - 07:48:26 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=14906391]Crow's Nest SCLASO[/url] - 03:09:33 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16784252]Tsavo Highway CLASO[/url]* - 59:03 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16907023]The Storm CLASO[/url] - 02:39:32 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16494652]Floodgate SLASO[/url] - 05:07 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=17510270]The Ark[/url] - 03:27:35 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=17306209]The Covenant[/url] - 04:18:36 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16494795]Cortana SCLASO[/url] - 43:31 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=17027910]Halo SLASO[/url] - 18:48 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16700087]SCLASO[/url] - 03:11:48[/quote] [Edited on 05.24.2008 6:33 AM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brother Bacon I would just want to encourage everyone to play Campaign with the Blind skull on. And also, please take the time to observe the beauty of Halo, It looks much different when you're not fighting bad guys nonstop with the HUD on. Tsavo highway looks beautiful. =P Haha.[/quote] Ever seen Sierra 117 in Pancam mode?

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  • I would just want to encourage everyone to play Campaign with the Blind skull on. And also, please take the time to observe the beauty of Halo, It looks much different when you're not fighting bad guys nonstop with the HUD on. Tsavo highway looks beautiful. =P Haha.

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  • Ah. I've been looking for this thread for a while now. I forgot its name. Saving thread, finally. Good luck Sonic and Shilly and you other two whose names I forget(sorry).

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  • ^ Woot, it's our birthday! That was fun! We started the level and John left about 15 minutes into it and I got through the first shield wall with the brutes in Possibly record time for ANY difficulty, and then when he got back we hit the part after we reach the Path to Voi and the big fight with all the Brutes. We skipped it, haha, and went on. After several attempts of assassination, John killed the Carbine Brute and we moved on to the BIG fight with the 2 Wraiths or so at the end. Then I had to leave while John finished off the Wraith with his Beam Rifle, which he was lucky enough to decide to bring along with him, and then by the time I got back he was at the very end. At then we saw the awesome 57 minutes of Gameplay. Hey John, any chance you wanna run through this level atleast one last time and try for 50 Minutes or less? It might've been 50 If I had known how to sneak around those brutes before the Carbine Brute you assassinated. And get on Saturday, I'll try The Ark or The Covenant with you. Peace man. [Edited on 01.24.2008 8:03 PM PST]

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  • CYBERPLASMA and I just finished Tsavo Highway...with epic results. We did it just under an hour! Totally within viewing limits!!!!1 :P Download, watch, discuss, enjoy, celebrate! And Duck's right; SLASO is next to impossible really.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatherBucky what i meant was that you may need to do that on solo to get the secret ending no offense to u dude thats amazing that u did it [/quote] I would love to be proved wrong by history, but having done the CLASO Halo (and Storm which we lost), and my own SCLASO partial Storm, I think that SLASO (solo) is for all practical purposes impossible. Not because players aren't insanely skilled, because some are. Don't forget, with the Iron skull on, in Solo if you die you go back to the beginning of the Level. On Coop, you go back to the last checkpoint. You never respawn in battle, if one dies, everyone goes back to the last checkpoint. Bad luck is the problem. The AI does something different, a grenade bounces badly, you get sniped by someone who is wayyyyy out of position. If you assume that a highly skilled player will avoid doing anything stupid, have a good plan for each level, and be accurate enough to kill everything eventually, the random stuff becomes really important, because one can kill you. On levels with intelligent opponents, you could face as many as 10 coin-tosses per level where luck determined the outcome. A lot of our restarts are because of them, not because we did something wrong, just got surprised/bad luck...so beyond skill, it takes getting lucky. Over and over again. MC is that way, but we're only human. Given all that, you might have a 1 in a thousand chance to make it through. Let's say there's a 50% chance each time that you live, or die...those multiply...ten of them in a level means you have a .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5.x 5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 chance of doing it right...equals .1% chance ... equals 1 in a thousand. So you would have to play that level through 1000 times, shooting pretty well, not making any "errors", to have the stars all line up. Seems unlikely. Some ones, like Floodgate, I could see (John has [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=16494652]done[/url] that). Maybe even Halo, although Johnson the Team Killer would be a problem, in CLASO he killed us almost as much as we killed the Flood! But no grenades, and pretty simplistic enemies. Many of the other levels are much more involved. Even if I'm off by 50% in my estimates, that would still be 500 run throughs per level to get the one win. On average...therefore it could be more. And I find it difficult to believe that Bungie would build in a reward for something that was statistically impossible for all practical purposes. I'd be more likely to see them build it in for something that was more skill based, like CLASO. But we didn't find any special ending on CLASO Halo, oh well. Maybe it's somewhere else. Chick armor sounds kinda interesting, though. [Edited on 01.21.2008 4:40 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PlasticCorpse Was looking around to see if anyone else had done the same thing my friend and I had, looks like a few have. We've completed the first 4 missions on CLASO with 2 players, our first mission we weren't connected to Live, but you can check them out below: Sierra 117: I believe it was around 4:49:00 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=38124867&player=PlasticCorpse]Crow's Nest[/url]: 05:57:28 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=38230293&player=PlasticCorpse]Tvaso Highway[/url]: 02:19:23 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=38297615&player=PlasticCorpse]The Storm[/url]: 05:21:47 [/quote] Good job...one problem...You've had no SIlver Skulls on. It's not LASO/CLASO now. It's a twisted, shuddering CLAGSO...(Co-op-Legendary-All-Gold-Skulls-On). Kudos for the levels...but it's still not as amazing as it could be with the Silvers - (Mainly Blind). Also, if we unlocked Female Armour....I'd so wear it regardless of my gender :D Also, mini-update on the Floodgate YouTube video...when I recorded it, the file size ended up being over 300 MB...200 over the YouTube limit...and File Conversions are messing up my FPS...so I'm getting ti fixed as soon as possible :) Another Update: First Post Edited IntoEasier-To-Read Format. [Edited on 01.21.2008 2:33 PM PST]

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  • dont you get ''female armor'' if you do this

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  • Was looking around to see if anyone else had done the same thing my friend and I had, looks like a few have. We've completed the first 4 missions on CLASO with 2 players, our first mission we weren't connected to Live, but you can check them out below: Sierra 117: I believe it was around 4:49:00 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=38124867&player=PlasticCorpse]Crow's Nest[/url]: 05:57:28 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=38230293&player=PlasticCorpse]Tvaso Highway[/url]: 02:19:23 [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=38297615&player=PlasticCorpse]The Storm[/url]: 05:21:47

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  • what i meant was that you may need to do that on solo to get the secret ending no offense to u dude thats amazing that u did it [Edited on 01.19.2008 9:35 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatherBucky u have to LASO solo not on coop[/quote] Reap what you sow. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Eat More Babies Congrats. I wouldn't have had the patience go through any of that. I doubt there's going to be a third ending. It would be neat though.[/quote] Thanks! There were times when we thought it was impossible to break through...but we suceeded :D There most defintely isn't a third ending. I knew it was to be false the moment I heard about it.

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  • Congrats. I wouldn't have had the patience go through any of that. I doubt there's going to be a third ending. It would be neat though. [Edited on 01.19.2008 9:21 PM PST]

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  • u have to LASO solo not on coop

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  • Major apologies for the double post. But Update :D Halo was just completed an hour ago-ish. Myself, Shilly117, Sabre911 and MightyDuckK went in, kicked ass and came out of it feeling satisfied :) We'd also spent 7 hours 40 minutes doing The Storm. And...got to the part with the hunters...and Sabre lagged out :| Meehh...We'll be doing it again at some point in the future. Read first post for full Halo info.

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  • I think people are forgetting I've done Cortana... Otherwise thanks for the support! Also: Some Screenshots of Crow's Nest Have been added to the Carnage Report.

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  • Aww, someone suggested m y cortana trick already. Its totally possible to run all the way through cortana and fight almost none of the enemies. "Aggro" from the enemies resets when you get a gravemind / cortana message (the ones where you lose control of MC for a second) so you can charge gung-ho through the level to those points and you should be fine even without camo (though it helps IMMENSELY). A hammer also helps if you can pick one up while you run.. you can use it to kill big groups of flood in one hit so you don't get stuck somewhere. The most difficult part by far is climbing the vertical room that's full of pures that go ranged above your head, but if you do it right that's basically the only part of the level you even fight in. Once you reach cortana you can glitch the enemies and the rest of the level is a cakewalk. Edit: That's acctually how I did the level on legendary and meta-heroic with skulls on. I HATE that level. [Edited on 01.15.2008 10:19 AM PST]

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  • Honestly, I'm amazed you haven't gone insane yet. Im stuck at Tsavo Highway on heroic and I've quit. I Bow To Your Skills :)

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  • Awesome. wish you luck SonicJohn. The Covenant is going to be hard with the Brute Stalkers.

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  • Found a great way to kill both Scarabs on the Covenant on Co-op LASO. (Besides landing on the Scarabs with both Hornets on Co-op) Take the Gauss warthog and rocket launcher under the huge structure (control room) and hang there. You can shoot the weak spot on either Scarab and it will not attack since your marines are still alive and keeping it busy. Once one of the scarabs is destroyed you'll incur the wrath of both ghosts and the prowler. Use the Gauss cannon and the rocket launcher - bubble if you have one - to take them out. By this time the other scarab will give you plenty of attention OR will just not expose its backside. In either case, you can use the warthogs power and speed to destroy the scarab WHILE avoiding the banshees (stay under the scarab). Doing this LASO in the hornet(s) is risky as hell and practically impossible if doing LASO by yourself. This warthog method works decently enough if you're going single but you'll have to shoot at the first scarab THEN pick up a marine to shoot the second. Hope this helps!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marcara 08 Just for fun try jumping on a lone Hunters' head. You can bash his head in and he won't try to kill you. It's pretty damn funny.[/quote] I accidentally found the same thing with the Brute Chieftans with the gravity hammers ... if you get inside their perimiter and start beating the hell out of them they don't fight back and you can kill them with melee only. Extremely fun and amusing to do. Whatever you do, just don't back up. Discovered playing solo Legendary Crow's Nest on the way to rescue the Marines. [Edited on 01.14.2008 9:53 PM PST]

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  • Figured I'd say this, in the Cortana level, as long as can get all the cloaks while running as fast as you possibly can, you can skip the WHOLE level up to the part where you find Cortana and the enemies glitch (won't attack often). After that it's a cake-walk. BUT!!!! That's totally lame and I don't recommend that anyone do it. However, this method will probably result in beating the level under 20 minutes guaranteed. This HAS to be the speed run method. PS - tried it myself and died at the VERY last part - after I get Cortana. If anyone is up for it knock yourself out 'cause it just got a HELL of a lot easier.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] shilly117 glad to hear it =D speaking of support.. we're looking for 2 players to assist me and john.. anyone interested?[/quote] if u guys are still up to the challenge i can help but i can only play friday and saturday nights 8pm-1am central time and after a couple million times of dieing i will be able to get better. experience : i played the first lvl by myself with a couple of skulls including the death restart(by myself) i ended up dieing right before i got to the pelican some idiot told me i would get more points if i got the skull bad idea UPDATE: on the covenant i have a good strategy with the mongoose and marine and fuel rod [Edited on 01.14.2008 3:21 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KenIsOnFire lol never tried legendary tbh, just did it on normal to get the story out of the way and some achievements... good luck though, it'll be fun to watch when you put it into clips of your survival only but bear in mind you should save the especially funny deaths, like ones just before the end for the last part of the vid for some humour :P[/quote] Oh definitely, that's our plan anyway. We'll be recording each Run individually; editing it into two video versions, Deaths and the Survival and then we'll delete the bulk of the video (the entire run). [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marcara 08 I've made some comments on your stuff SonicJohn and yeah, it's cool and I love it but - as I know you know - doing it yourself is infinitely more impressive. Not only that, but dominating the game, too. Just for fun try jumping on a lone Hunters' head. You can bash his head in and he won't try to kill you. It's pretty damn funny.[/quote] It most certainly is. The biggest problem, I suppose would be finding the time though. I'm currently weeks away from Preliminary exams for High School, and am required to study a helluva lot...take The Ark for example...at a normal pace, it takes from 30 minutes to an hour. Legendary might take a bit longer...SLASO...would take repetitions of days. Full days. Dying is a bummer when you're getting closer to a goal. And I read your thread about the Hunters. I amused myself with that knowledge, then figured I'd maybe try it on some CLASO at some point :) [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sabre911 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn Well, Sabre, since you sound like you've got some experience behind your back, we may be needing an extra one or two experienced players for The Ark or The Covenant, and possibly Halo...so keep your options open.[/quote] I will be sure to do just that, if you need me just send me a message. Also The Covenant is my best level.[/quote] That's good to know, you may need to get ready this weekend. I may be organising a level then. [i]May.[/i] [Edited on 01.14.2008 12:24 PM PST]

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  • this deserves a bump

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn Well, Sabre, since you sound like you've got some experience behind your back, we may be needing an extra one or two experienced players for The Ark or The Covenant, and possibly Halo...so keep your options open.[/quote] I will be sure to do just that, if you need me just send me a message. Also The Covenant is my best level.

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  • I've made some comments on your stuff SonicJohn and yeah, it's cool and I love it but - as I know you know - doing it yourself is infinitely more impressive. Not only that, but dominating the game, too. Just for fun try jumping on a lone Hunters' head. You can bash his head in and he won't try to kill you. It's pretty damn funny.

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