I like my iPod, but they are sadly overused. If you have less than a thousand songs, and are not a geek, Do not get one. I'm sick of people who buy an iPod and listen to the same five songs over and over and over. And then maybe a new selection the next month. And then they move on to the next hip trend. The reason I have the geek thing is because I have an ipod (15GB, 2,700 songs) and am limited to 177 songs. I know it's retarded, but hey, I rationalize by saying that I'm an apple geek. On the other hand, I know people who own collections of 64 albums + Acquisition tunes and another with over 200 LPs + surely a great P2P collection. They deserve them. Oh yeah, and minis suck balls. Shuffles are cool. Ipod photos are ridiculous. P.S. Dell DJs do have 10x battery life of iPods (at least my version), but Apple sorta rectified that with the newest iPod. I don't know about creative nomad or Rio though. As long as your satisfied I'm not gonna bash you. Oh yeah, and this forum is [i] The Flood [i], so he can post whatever he wants. [Edited on 2/23/2005 5:50:38 PM]