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They are "killing" The Underground (with "kindness")

One of the recent, and almost un-noticed change to the Forums was the removal of Forum descriptions in the upper right-hand object. For example, The Underground has subtext stating that it was "Bungie General and Old-School", the Septagon, Maw, Library and New Mombasa also had small "blurbs" describing them. Since these descriptions have been removed, The Underground (in particular, but it appears to be happening everywhere) is getting a much higher number of mis-forumed topics created. I suspect that The Underground gets more posts that should be in The Flood, Maw, Library or New Mombassa as it is the first listed Forum on most menus. I know that this is kind of piddling, but I think that it is noticable. I've tried not using copy-n-paste boilerplate text advising people where there topic would be better created, but I must admit that it [i]is[/i] a temptation. Since the topic reporting database on HFCS doesn't appear to allow just standard members to post about problem topics, I am at a loss of how best (as a member) to respond. I want to help, I want to advise (helpfully) each member who is mis-posting, and I am reluctant to try to report these threads that are not truly "harmful", but probably honest mistakes. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this change since the removal of the brief forum descriptions. It is very obvious to this observer. Would it be possible to have those descriptions returned? [Edited on 10/5/2004 6:30:15 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achilles VI And so, the heavens opened up, and spam poured down upon the mortal realm. there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. ...And then, came the mods...[/quote] Heheh, I've been calling them the "Se7en Horsemen of the Apocalypse" for a while now.... considering recent events, it becomes more applicable each day.
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  • And so, the heavens opened up, and spam poured down upon the mortal realm. there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. ...And then, came the mods...
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  • Once more useless crap rains down on the underground.... There are topics that would look bad in the [i]Flood[/i]... what's with these guys? Tristan ;-)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VII Toast I think Shishka needs to get the fourms in shape again. =)[/quote] Not the lesson bat again! We just got the blood, hair, bone and brain matter out of the drapes and carpets from the LAST time!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VII Toast I'm gone for a single day, and look what happens! People are killing other people with kindness?! This is an outrage. =)[/quote] I was shocked myself. I suspect it's bleed-over from Stosh's "flower-power" avatar. [/quote] I think Shishka needs to get the fourms in shape again. =) [Edited on 10/8/2004 9:32:11 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 ...But I am sure that Achronos is swearing at something or someone even as we speak..... probably the Webmaster's fault.... again.[/quote] It looks like my theory is officially [url=http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=492915][color=white]confirmed.[/color][/url]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 It appears that I am unable to enter the Mombasa that is not the old one.[/quote] Hmmmm... and the other forums still working... I wonder if this is intentional? They said they were going to have a rather special update this friday. Tomorrow.[/quote] I dunno, but rather than be patient and wait for New Mombasa to reopen (like it's a freaking amusement park) the Uhm, "New* Generation" of Bungie decided to spam the crap out of the Underground.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 It appears that I am unable to enter the Mombasa that is not the old one.[/quote] Hmmmm... and the other forums still working... I wonder if this is intentional? They said they were going to have a rather special update this friday. Tomorrow.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Good idea, Recon, as always. And can you get in to New Mombasa? Or is it just me who can't?[/quote] Can [i]I[/i] go where? New Mom-what? *grin*[/quote] Haha. Could you check? You can hit the back button before you actually see any of the threads ;-)[/quote] It appears that I am unable to enter the Mombasa that is not the old one.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Good idea, Recon, as always. And can you get in to New Mombasa? Or is it just me who can't?[/quote] Can [i]I[/i] go where? New Mom-what? *grin*[/quote] Haha. Could you check? You can hit the back button before you actually see any of the threads ;-)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Good idea, Recon, as always. And can you get in to New Mombasa? Or is it just me who can't?[/quote] Can [i]I[/i] go where? New Mom-what? *grin*
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  • Good idea, Recon, as always. And can you get in to New Mombasa? Or is it just me who can't? [Edited on 10/7/2004 8:34:58 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato ..Well, I guess that last update certainly [i]will[/i] fix the problem with off topic threads... Edit- Oh yeah, and you may want to edit your first post now to make it a little more up to date.[/quote] If this mayhem is the result of an update, where's the "Sytem Restore"? Oh, my Mac roots just cringe when I make references to MS-OS components. I was thinking that I would leave the opening post as a tribute and an example. The next time somone tells me that "Bungie doesn't listen" or "they take forever to do XYZ", I would like to point at this topic. Bungie doesn't have to monitor the forums, I read it in the Terms of Use (yes, I actually do read that sort of stuff, and license agreements when I'm installing software too!). Even though they have plenty of other things to do, and even though they don't [i]have[/i] to monitor squat... After "quitting time" Achronos noticed and replied to a fan-voiced concern (a relatively minor one at that) on the fan discussion boards. He not only replied, but said that he would do something about it. Less than 2 days later, the described problem was resolved. The next time that I hear someone whine about, "they don't care", I am telling them to bite me and pointing them to this topic.
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  • I did a bit of looking around, and found that only New Mombasa is unaccessable. The Flood, while very difficult to get it to open, will after a few tries, and the rest opened normally. Also, I have seen no new posts from any time after about 3:30. Edit- Ok, I saw a new post in The Underground that was created at 4:40:19, Bungie time. I then tried to make a thead in the same forum, but no luck. [Edited on 10/7/2004 5:00:58 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Yes, yes, it was. And is it just me, or can we not make new threads now? It keeps giving me the gone fishin' error screen. And no, that is not a joke.[/quote] I think that the forum database is currently wonky in a major way. Alot of the other forums are inaccesible, and some of the tools dump you to the error screen. We could get a server unavailable message anytime now. But I am sure that Achronos is swearing at something or someone even as we speak..... probably the Webmaster's fault.... again.[/quote] Or Stosh's! Lol. Well, I guess that last update certainly [i]will[/i] fix the problem with off topic threads... Edit- Oh yeah, and you may want to edit your first post now to make it a little more up to date. [Edited on 10/7/2004 4:31:58 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Yes, yes, it was. And is it just me, or can we not make new threads now? It keeps giving me the gone fishin' error screen. And no, that is not a joke.[/quote] I think that the forum database is currently wonky in a major way. Alot of the other forums are inaccesible, and some of the tools dump you to the error screen. We could get a server unavailable message anytime now. But I am sure that Achronos is swearing at something or someone even as we speak..... probably the Webmaster's fault.... again.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato I'm not sure if I trust Bungie to be exactly prompt. They should all be on vacation now after finishing Halo 2.[/quote] Boy was I wrong. My records starting to look like Recon's now! ; ) This should help... we'll just have to see though.[/quote] It took me a minute to think of which "record" that you were referring to! I finally settled on the terrible one I have for predicting the Mod's actions and reactions. *grin* At least I [i]hope[/i] that's the record you meant.[/quote] Yes, yes, it was. And is it just me, or can we not make new threads now? It keeps giving me the gone fishin' error screen. And no, that is not a joke. [Edited on 10/7/2004 4:22:36 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato I'm not sure if I trust Bungie to be exactly prompt. They should all be on vacation now after finishing Halo 2.[/quote] Boy was I wrong. My records starting to look like Recon's now! ; ) This should help... we'll just have to see though.[/quote] It took me a minute to think of which "record" that you were referring to! I finally settled on the terrible one I have for predicting the Mod's actions and reactions. *grin* At least I [i]hope[/i] that's the record you meant.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato I'm not sure if I trust Bungie to be exactly prompt. They should all be on vacation now after finishing Halo 2.[/quote] Boy was I wrong. My records starting to look like Recon's now! ; ) This should help... we'll just have to see though.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato have you listened to the ilovebees sound files? Even if you tend not to go to New Mombasa, you should listen to those. They are very high quality.[/quote] I'll second that recommendation. The story is up to Bungie standards, whether there are Bungie staff writing it or not, and the technical quality is very high. I won't spam with links, but there are excellent collections of the audio clips out there that'll help you catch up... just listen to them in chronological order for maximum effect. And yes, the Underground is getting pounded a bit by OT posts. It's not unusable, yet, but it's a touch disheartening to see half the non-sticky posts on the front page locked or OT. Hopefully the next update will come soon. -- Steve's crossing his fingers and looking for his four-leaf clover.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VII Toast I'm gone for a single day, and look what happens! People are killing other people with kindness?! This is an outrage. =)[/quote] I was shocked myself. I suspect it's bleed-over from Stosh's "flower-power" avatar.
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  • I'm gone for a single day, and look what happens! People are killing other people with kindness?! This is an outrage. =)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Lol, thanks for the laugh! And have you checked all of the forums yet?[/quote] I hit 3 in rotation. Underground, Septagon, Flood. With an occasional drive by in the Maw and Library. It seems that you're getting responses, and nothing negative. Well done. New Mombasa? Sorry, not on my route. I just don't have anything to say there and I really don't want to read anything about Halo 2 except Frankie's updates.[/quote] have you listened to the ilovebees sound files? Even if you tend not to go to New Mombasa, you should listen to those. They are very high quality.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Lol, thanks for the laugh! And have you checked all of the forums yet?[/quote] I hit 3 in rotation. Underground, Septagon, Flood. With an occasional drive by in the Maw and Library. It seems that you're getting responses, and nothing negative. Well done. New Mombasa? Sorry, not on my route. I just don't have anything to say there and I really don't want to read anything about Halo 2 except Frankie's updates.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato I don't think that I deserve any pusishment, I just wanted to make sure Shishka would think first. He's scared me before when I didn't think I deserved any punishment. It's done now anyway. I stand by my actions. These people actually don't know what the forums are for, and I'm not sure if I trust Bungie to be exactly prompt. They should all be on vacation now after finishing Halo 2.[/quote] Fair enough. I can admire your conviction. I saw what you posted and it's far less negative and far more tasteful than what I had imagined you were rushing off to do. Don't ask, it involved fish entrails, pantyhose, a box of kittens, fireworks, a couple of badgers and duct tape. I'm just glad that you didn't do [i]that[/i]. I apologize for not trusting your self control.[/quote] Lol, thanks for the laugh! And have you checked all of the forums yet?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato I don't think that I deserve any pusishment, I just wanted to make sure Shishka would think first. He's scared me before when I didn't think I deserved any punishment. It's done now anyway. I stand by my actions. These people actually don't know what the forums are for, and I'm not sure if I trust Bungie to be exactly prompt. They should all be on vacation now after finishing Halo 2.[/quote] Fair enough. I can admire your conviction. I saw what you posted and it's far less negative and far more tasteful than what I had imagined you were rushing off to do. Don't ask, it involved fish entrails, pantyhose, a box of kittens, fireworks, a couple of badgers and duct tape. I'm just glad that you didn't do [i]that[/i]. I apologize for not trusting your self control.
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