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PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood v2.0 [ Corsair 300R $50 ]

[quote][/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=72304145]Original Thread[/url] [b]Current Sales:[/b] [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011]Corsair 300R[/url], $50 [url=http://www.frys.com/product/7253043]Corsair HX650[/url] $72 [quote][/quote][quote][/quote] [b]Table of Contents:[/b] 1) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341]Building a PC[/url] 2) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528353]Getting started with Windows; Software, Programs, Optimizations[/url] 3) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528358]Audio General; Speakers, Headphones, Souncards[/url] 4) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528366]Audio General; Continued[/url] 5) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528374]Useful Links and Builds of Other Members[/url] [quote][/quote][quote][/quote] [b]Building a PC:[/b] Taken from Cystic. If he would like, I'll type my own section. [quote]After you've gathered all your parts, I'm assuming you're going to wonder what to do with all these wires. It's a pretty simple process, Of course, and we start with the case and the psu, or if you want, the motherboard, as long as either of them are put in first, it doesn't matter. [b][u]1. Fitting the PSU[/u][/b] [i]If you want to fit the motherboard first, go to step 2 then back to step 1.[/i] Open your case up, and look for a corner that looks like it will fit a PSU in it. It should be pretty obvious, if it already isn't, there should be four or 6 mounting screw holes for the PSU, and possibly parts built into the case to keep it into place. Just slot your PSU into there and screw in the appropriate screws. [b][u]2. Motherboard [/u][/b] Your case should already have a couple of mounting screws on the side, and it's pretty straightforward to see where the motherboard belongs and how it fits in the system. The IO shield (there should be a rectangular shaped hole in the back of your PC) should pop right into the back of your case. An IO shield should look something like [url=http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/144/images/6ioshield.JPG]this[/url]. After popping in the IO shield, check your motherboard box for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Toennchen_IMGP5029_wp.jpg]standoffs[/url] (they come in plastic too) and screw them into the case's motherboard mounting holes, then just place the motherboard over the standoffs with the inputs that align to the IO shield (as long as your IO shield isn't upside down), and then screw the motherboard into the standoffs with the provided screws. If a screw won't go in or slightly flexes the motherboard, it might be recommended to leave this screw out, just as long as your motherboard is secure and you're not having problems with fitting upgrades in the PCI slots (we'll come to those later) the motherboard won't mind having a few screws missing if it doesn't look like it's going to be moving or rattling inside the case. [b][u]3. The Processor[/u][/b] In your motherboard, there should be a socket that looks either like [url=http://www.hardcore-hardware.com/images/news/lga-2011-computex/ASUS%20DB%206%20-%20Socket%202.JPG]this[/url] (Newer Intel) or [url=http://techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/socket-am3.jpg]this[/url] (Newer AMD), or something similar. It is very important that your socket number matches the motherboard's specifications, e.g LGA 1155 will only work with an LGA 1155 motherboard, even if an LGA 1136 looks like it's going to fit. For AMD, you'll find that they're more versatile in sockets, however, anyone can tell you that you should only vouch for AMD given that you are under a tight budget or are building a computer for relatively basic tasks. Anyway, you should see a latch on the side of the socket. Lift up the latch, (and if there's a pin protection plate, most likely on Intel motherboards remove it but do not damage it, you may need it later for RMAs.) and place the processor carefully onto the socket (try avoiding contact with the pins, there should be a small indicator such as a small triangle on the CPU and the motherboard showing which way the processor should be placed) then carefully slot the cpu into place, making sure it's in, and then you want to close the lid (for intel processors) and then press the latch down firmly and secure it. [b][u]4. The PCI expansions[/u][/b] On your motherboard, there should be a couple of PCI expansion slots, [url=http://www.naplestech.com/shopcart/images/pc_slots.gif]in their respective sizes.[/url] Now depending on the type of graphics card you buy, it should tell you which slot it goes in. Now, you start off by seeing which back plates the PCI slot is aligned to on the case, and you can begin by unscrewing the plate. You will want to do this with the case lying flat. In some cases for larger, or more powerful cards, they will use 2 of these back plates and you will need to unscrew more than one. Some PCI slots come with security latches that secure the card in place, and it should make a clicking sound when you plug the card into the slot. After the card is in place, you can use the screws you've taken out of the back panel to secure the card into the case, so that it stays there. This applies to other PCI slot accessories, e.g more USB slots, PCI wireless cards, capture cards, etc. [b][u]5. The Optical Drive/Blu-Ray Drive/SD Card reader etc.[/u][/b] Now these are very easy to install, inside the front half of your case, there should be a few slots for whichever peripherals you choose to install. Remove the front panel dust shield/filters (if you have any) for the slot you want your drive to take. Where the dust shield is removed, just slot in the drive and it should not stick out of the front panel, nor should it be pushed inward too much. After the necessary adjustments, you will see holes for screws in the side of the drive bays - you want to secure the drive in place firmly, but not too tightly, just until the screw's turning becomes slightly difficult to turn. [b][u]6. Hard Drive[/u][/b] You should see underneath where your disc drive is supposed to be {unless it's some sort of obscure case), there should be a mounting area for HDDs similar to the disc drive bays, now for some cases, you may get easy-install options, such as NZXT's clip-on and slide in. You can also purchase 2.5-3.5 inch conversion cases for your 2.5" HDD if you want to move over data from a laptop or an mATX desktop. Installation should be straight forward and very similar to the disc drives, you should have no problem installing it. Again, you only have to make sure it's secure, not tighten it to oblivion. [b][u]7. Wiring and Cable Management[/u][/b] ([i]Skip the first paragraph if you don't want to use cable management, it saves the hassle afterwards[/i]) If you have a modular PSU, only plug in the power cables you need, and for non-modular PSUs, just keep the spare wires away from the main airflow pats of the machine, you can use zip-ties and bunch them up behind the PC's back panel (if it has one) or just keep them away from the fans. First, place all of the components inside the case, including the PSU, but keep the cables outside the case. First, take the 24-pin motherboard power cable and put it through the opening closest to the PSU. Run this behind the motherboard and out the hole closest to the 24-pin motherboard connector. Do the same with the 8-pin CPU connector. This is the only cable which might not be long enough, in which case you will need one of [url=http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-8-Pin-Extension-EPS8EXT/dp/B000M802RG]these[/url]. Once those cables are in, you'll want to attach the SATA cables to the optical drive, HDD, and any SSD's you might have. You can either run these through the same hole as the 24-pin, or a closer hole. I generally like to use the same [url=http://www.proits-it.com/Support/skills/Photos/eSATA_TypA.jpg]SATA A[/url] cable for my HDD and optical. If needed, you can lower the position of the optical drive so that the cable will reach, or even raise your hard drives. Make sure that when you are routing these cables that they do NOT overlap on the other cables that you already have, otherwise you will not be able to easily put your side panel back on. Connect the front panel cords that are attached to your case to the bottom of the motherboard. I generally like to keep them low to the case so that they can go under the other cords and out the hole where the PSU is. You can also route them through the hole under where you inserted the 24-pin, provided you have a case with enough rubber grommets. Although I do not advise it, some builders cut off the AC97 cable that is attached to the HD Audio cable (HD > AC97) so that they have a more clean look. After this, all that's left are the GPU cables and molex cables for fans. These are pretty self-explanatory. Just remember to not overlap cords. If you don't have twist ties, you can go to your local grocery store and grab some of those green twist ties in the produce section. You also might have some that came with your PC components. I'll post my build with labels once my H100 comes back from Corsair.[/quote] [url=http://imgur.com/a/oqpHx]Infographics[/url] (NSFW on the mousepad image). 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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HHIBZ1 Ok thanks i think i will go with the ASUS board and a i5 3570k. Btw how long will these stay ``good´´ you know before i have to upgrade them to run the newer releases?[/quote]I'm still using my ASUS P8Z68-V Pro and i7 2600k from a year and a half ago, and I don't plan to upgrade for a while. Also, I'm trying to decide what my next headphone upgrade should be. Does anyone else have experience in this field? I'm comparing the [url=http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Dynamic-Professional-Stereo-Headphones/dp/B00004SY4H]Sennheiser HD600[/url] to the [url=http://www.amazon.com/HiFiMAN-HE-400-Planar-Efficiency-Headphones/dp/B007ZG32I4]HiFiMan HE-400[/url] and will be using them with an [url=http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48]O2+ODAC[/url] stack. The Senns are more comfortable, but the HiFi's have a more fun sound and are planar magnetic. Oh, the first world problems. [Edited on 01.06.2013 10:43 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sand Grenade5656 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sand Grenade5656 Hello Wizards of the PC thread! So I recently got a Samsung SSD 840 series, and a new OS (Win7 64bit). I currently have windows 32 bit installed because I had it lying around at the time of when I built my computer. Could someone walk me through the complete process of installing an SSD? Keep in mind I will be installing a completely new OS on the SSD and I want to get rid of the one I am currently using. Thanks. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/wbRD]Here[/url] is my current build if it helps.[/quote]Do you mean physically connecting it to the motherboard in the case, or just installing the OS on it.[/quote] Both! :)[/quote]Well, installing it is very simple. First, you put the SSD in one of the removable trays like the ones that hold the HDD and line the holes on the SSD with those on the tray to fasten it with screws (I can't remember which screws exactly, but they came with your 410 and it'll say which ones in the manual). Then once it's secure, you take a SATA cable (make sure it's SATA III or 6gbps) and plug one end into the back of your SSD and the other end into the white sata port on your motherboard (make sure it's the white one, because that one is SATA III and the others are only SATA II). Then you take a SATA power cable from your power supply and plug that into the SSD, right next to where the data cable is. Then you should be all set. And here is an [url=http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds]installation and optimization guide for your SSD.[/url] [Edited on 01.06.2013 10:13 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sand Grenade5656 Hello Wizards of the PC thread! So I recently got a Samsung SSD 840 series, and a new OS (Win7 64bit). I currently have windows 32 bit installed because I had it lying around at the time of when I built my computer. Could someone walk me through the complete process of installing an SSD? Keep in mind I will be installing a completely new OS on the SSD and I want to get rid of the one I am currently using. Thanks. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/wbRD]Here[/url] is my current build if it helps.[/quote]Do you mean physically connecting it to the motherboard in the case, or just installing the OS on it.[/quote] Both! :)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sand Grenade5656 Hello Wizards of the PC thread! So I recently got a Samsung SSD 840 series, and a new OS (Win7 64bit). I currently have windows 32 bit installed because I had it lying around at the time of when I built my computer. Could someone walk me through the complete process of installing an SSD? Keep in mind I will be installing a completely new OS on the SSD and I want to get rid of the one I am currently using. Thanks. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/wbRD]Here[/url] is my current build if it helps.[/quote]Do you mean physically connecting it to the motherboard in the case, or just installing the OS on it.

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  • Hello Wizards of the PC thread! So I recently got a Samsung SSD 840 series, and a new OS (Win7 64bit). I currently have windows 32 bit installed because I had it lying around at the time of when I built my computer. Could someone walk me through the complete process of installing an SSD? Keep in mind I will be installing a completely new OS on the SSD and I want to get rid of the one I am currently using. Thanks. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/wbRD]Here[/url] is my current build if it helps.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TopWargamer Sure is [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xx idunno xX But isnt the H100 a water cooler? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thehippyelite [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbpb23yTK8]Why air > Water[/url][/quote][/quote][/quote]So shouldn't it be Water > air? since what the video accomplished isn't (as far as I know) possible with the motherboard still being in a case.

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  • Sure is [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xx idunno xX But isnt the H100 a water cooler? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thehippyelite [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbpb23yTK8]Why air > Water[/url][/quote][/quote]

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  • But isnt the H100 a water cooler? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thehippyelite [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbpb23yTK8]Why air > Water[/url][/quote]

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  • [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbpb23yTK8]Why air > Water[/url]

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  • Ok thanks i think i will go with the ASUS board and a i5 3570k. Btw how long will these stay ``good´´ you know before i have to upgrade them to run the newer releases?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HHIBZ1 Ok. But in the future i would like to overclock so what kind of cpu should i get to be able to overclock with the ASUS board?[/quote]Either the i5 2500k or the i5 3570k.

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  • Ok. But in the future i would like to overclock so what kind of cpu should i get to be able to overclock with the ASUS board? [Edited on 01.06.2013 6:37 AM PST]

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  • The ASUS board, but it's meant for higher overclocking. Because you don't have an unlocked CPU, get the AsRock.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThirstyAvenge Scrap the Sabertooth. Invest in a P8Z77-V Pro or the ASRock Z77 Extreme4.[/quote] Which one is the better purchase?

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  • Scrap the Sabertooth. Invest in a P8Z77-V Pro or the ASRock Z77 Extreme4.

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  • Hey guys i have a question. Im going to build a pc and im checking out some parts and i wondered if anyone could tell me if thay are good for the price im paying. Or if i could get something better for the same amount. Intel Core i5 3470 3,2GHz Asus SABERTOOTH Z77

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  • You should get the latest BIOS that you can get off Gigabyte's website. Also, nForce chipset. NVIDIA quit the motherboard chipset business a while back. How old is your motherboard?

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  • When I upgrade my CPU, is it necessary to update my BIOS on my motherboard before or after the installation of the new CPU? Or do I even need to update it at all? I have a gigabtye M68MT-S2 motherboard (NVIDIA GeForce 7025/nForce 630a chipset) and I looked up the BIOs and I believe there's 2 I can choose from, so if anyone can help me answer the questions above, and if I do can they direct me to which BIOS to use to update my MOBO [Edited on 01.06.2013 1:40 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter What beep code/error code are you getting? Also, check to make sure the RAM is seated correctly, the 24 pin is in all the way, and the CPU power cord is all the way in. And make sure your video card is correctly plugged in. That should be all you need to have a successful boot.[/quote] This and are the fans spinning or is it not turning on at all? When I built my very first computer, the fans started up but I didn't see the splash screen. Freaked me out but after a half hour I realized one of the pcie cables wasn't plugged in all the way for the GPU. It's usually really small things like that cause an issue.

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  • What beep code/error code are you getting? Also, check to make sure the RAM is seated correctly, the 24 pin is in all the way, and the CPU power cord is all the way in. And make sure your video card is correctly plugged in. That should be all you need to have a successful boot. [Edited on 01.06.2013 12:45 AM PST]

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  • Well I have the parts all installed and everything wired up, however the thing refuses to turn on. I've checked over all the wiring ever everything appears to be going into place and I've made sure the power supply is on when I try to turn it on. I'm honestly at a loss as to what to do. I think I'll take another crack at it before work tomorrow since all I'm feeling is frustration at the moment. Any advice as to what's commonly messed up and the like would be appreciated.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ronaldinho 2010 Quick question, I have a beefy gaming rig but I'm wondering if I should get a gaming mouse. Do they actually improve performance, and like, is it worth it? If so, I'm thinking of getting the R.A.T 5 at bestbuy for 65$ I have also heard that gaming keyboards are for looks and comfort only.[/quote]Here are some mice that you can choose between: Cooler Master Xornet Cooler Master Storm Spawn Logitech G400 Razer Deathadder Those are all high-quality mice in terms of their sensors. You want to choose them based on your grip and if you need any extra buttons. If you have extra money, get a Logitech G9x or Steelseries Sensei. And "gaming" keyboards are for looks only, but mechanical keyboards are for function.

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  • The 4100 is a bulldozer CPU, and bulldozers do not perform well not compared to newer AMD CPUs, and they didn't even perform relatively well at their release. For gaming the best you could get would be a 8320 and overclocking it or a 8350.

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  • Could you explain why the FX 4100 CPU is not that good for gaming? As far as I know its not a true quad core processor, but its dual core instead, with hyperthreading. And with my experiences I couldn't play Counterstrike GO because of my processor (at launch), and is the CPU that you recommended the best AMD cpu for gaming? Or what would be for an AM3+ board? [Edited on 01.05.2013 8:56 PM PST]

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  • You'd get a greater benefit now from a new GPU than a new processor.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cheezytacos1 Would I be bottlenecking my system if I got a GTX 680 to go along with my AMD FX 4100 Quad Core @ 3.60 GhZ? I also have 8 GB RAM, and a GTX 560 TI GPU ATM. With a 850W PSU[/quote]The bulldozer CPUs don't perform well with games, but it still wouldn't be the worst. If you wanted to upgrade you would want a 8320 or 6300. And don't get a 680, you would get a much better price:performance ratio out of a 7970 or a 670 FTW. But the 7970 outperforms even the 680 and it's $400.[/quote] Thanks. The 670 FTW does look good compared to the 680 and much better on the price. Now if I get the 8320 CPU would I be able to buy it and upgrade the CPU without upgrading anything else? (Other than my GPU of course) And I'm not planning to OC the CPU so the stock cooling would be ok with it?[/quote]You have an AM3+ board, right?[/quote] Sorry double post [Edited on 01.05.2013 8:45 PM PST]

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