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12/12/2012 1:46:13 AM
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Geomancy Revisit pre 12-21-12 and post 1-1-13

Update: The one in Seven geomancy symbole can be interpreted as 1-7-13, or at the very least January 2013. In the rig the sack thread, Deej posted this juicy bit of info [quote] [quote]Posted by: gestuart88 How about you give us the date in some crazy geomancy puzzle this week? Those symbols still haunt my dreams. I promise we won't call a random phone number this time - right guys. come on deej.[/quote] You never really cracked that case, Bungie Community. I am disappoint.[/quote] To which Hylebos replied [quote]You told us that there wasn't anything else to crack and that the goal for Bungie Day was to figure out that they were Geomantic Symbols >_> Posted by: DeeJ Please stop inventing random telephone numbers to call. You are harassing total strangers. You are also barking up the wrong tree. The fact that you tracked these symbols to their origin is all you are meant to know about them. For now...[/quote] Either Deej is getting his pay back on us, or there is work to be done. Possible starting places I am noticing in this [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomancy] wiki article[/url] there is a Chinese version of geomancy, perhaps there is a connection to the Puerto Princesca map. [quote]In Korea, geomancy takes the form of interpreting the topography of the land to determine future events and or the strength of a dynasty or particular family. Therefore, not only were location and land forms important, but the topography could shift causing disfavor and the need to relocate. The idea is still accepted in many South East Asian societies today, although with reduced force[/quote] The symbols represent planets, and elements. Additionally they can be converted into binary. I also remember the one of 7 winners avatars where changed to one of the symbols. I'm hoping we get another hint in the mail sack this week, but lets see how much headway we can make before Friday. [Edited on 01.05.2013 8:08 AM PST]

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  • Looking at [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/oneofseven_jacket.jpg?w=584&h=438] the one of seven hoodie again[/url] I just converted the two symbols into binary, and then into base 10 numbers. If you take the gold geomancy symbol you get 1 If you look at the black geomancy symbol, using the one over top to complete the symbol, you get 13. If we were looking for a date with these numbers, just throw in a good old number 7. I think we can expect to hear something on 1-7-13

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gestuart88 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass I really think that Genesis passage is related to Destiny. Maybe it was foreshadowing something that we already found out about from the leak? [/quote] While I don't doubt the last city of humanity reference in the bible passage has a link to the game, I just feel like these symbols can be interpreted so many different ways. Counting the number of dots in each symbol just seemed WAYYYYYY to easy. I could be totally wrong, but I think it's worth exploring further. What's your opinion on the white hoodie symbol?[/quote] I agree completely. As far as the hoodie goes though... That symbol isn't shown on the Geomancy wikipedia page... Could it maybe not be a Geomancy symbol?[/quote] Yea, It's not a geomancy symbol, but it kind of looks like two partial ones overlaid, or at the very least it's in the style of geomancy - that and its connection to the one of seven is why I think it's so important

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gestuart88 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass I really think that Genesis passage is related to Destiny. Maybe it was foreshadowing something that we already found out about from the leak? [/quote] While I don't doubt the last city of humanity reference in the bible passage has a link to the game, I just feel like these symbols can be interpreted so many different ways. Counting the number of dots in each symbol just seemed WAYYYYYY to easy. I could be totally wrong, but I think it's worth exploring further. What's your opinion on the white hoodie symbol?[/quote] I agree completely. As far as the hoodie goes though... That symbol isn't shown on the Geomancy wikipedia page... Could it maybe not be a Geomancy symbol?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot I found these bits of information interesting during my research.. [i]"A particularly interesting passage says that the Geomantic figures are also used to form a tree with 24 branches. Such tree (see figure) is said to imitate "the famous tree of Kabbalah wich is called Sephiroth" [/i] [url=http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/images/4/47/Kircher_tree.jpg]Sephirotic tree[/url] [url=http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Geomancy]source[/url][/quote] So I googled more about the tree [quote]Sephirot or meaning "enumerations", are the 10 attributes/emanations in Kabbalah, through which Ein Sof (The Infinite) reveals himself and continuously creates both the physical realm and the chain of higher metaphysical realms (Seder hishtalshelus). The term is alternatively transliterated into English as Sefirot/Sefiroth, singular Sephirah/Sefirah etc.[/quote] Sephirah! SEVEN SERAPHS CONNECTION?!? Are the seven seraphs the faction of the traveler? (ein sof the infinite) Or is it a connection to [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/pax_dead_orbit.jpg?w=584&h=976]dead orbit[/url] Someone said the symbol in the middle meant something in hebrew - seven and something else [Edited on 12.12.2012 4:47 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass I really think that Genesis passage is related to Destiny. Maybe it was foreshadowing something that we already found out about from the leak? [/quote] While I don't doubt the last city of humanity reference in the bible passage has a link to the game, I just feel like these symbols can be interpreted so many different ways. Counting the number of dots in each symbol just seemed WAYYYYYY to easy. I could be totally wrong, but I think it's worth exploring further. What's your opinion on the white hoodie symbol?

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  • I found these bits of information interesting during my research.. [i]"A particularly interesting passage says that the Geomantic figures are also used to form a tree with 24 branches. Such tree (see figure) is said to imitate "the famous tree of Kabbalah wich is called Sephiroth" [/i] [url=http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/images/4/47/Kircher_tree.jpg]Sephirotic tree[/url] [url=http://www.tarotpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Geomancy]source[/url]

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  • I really think that Genesis passage is related to Destiny. Maybe it was foreshadowing something that we already found out about from the leak?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn I believe this will be some sort of alternative ending, or story-path that the player can choose to embark upon. Hence, "Destiny."[/quote]So basically more intricate version of the good/bad ending . . . If there is an ending. Maybe they could mark your status as a player to alert people of what you do, like in DayZ how the player killers were marked with a special uniform.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass What white hoodie? [/quote] link fixed - [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/oneofseven_jacket.jpg?w=584&h=438]The one of seven white hoodie geomancy symbol[/url] What if it's a key - -one color lets say gold translates as one and the other color, black, translates as seven. I dunno [Edited on 12.12.2012 2:12 PM PST]

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  • What white hoodie?

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  • Symbols Summerized In order [quote] [url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_via1-e1315863262949.png?w=100&h=100]Via[/url] Latin Name : Via Translation : The Way Binary : 1111 Binary conversion : 15 Binary conversion to alpha : O Morse Code : * * * * (Dot Dot Dot Dot) Morse Code Conversion - H Faction correlation from t-shirt: unknown One of Seven Member Avatar Correlation: unknown [/quote] [quote][url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_con-e1315863217290.png?w=630]Conjuctio[/url] Latin Name: Conjuctio Translation: The Way Binary: 0110 Binary conversion: 6 Binary conversion to alpha: F Morse Code: - * * - (Dash Dot Dot Dash) Morse Code Translation: - X Faction Correlation from t-shirt- Unknown One of Seven member avatar correlation - Unknown [/quote] [quote][url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_ami-e1315863237846.png?w=100]Amissio[/url] Latin Name: Amissio Translation: Loss Binary: 1010 Binary Conversion: 10 Binary Conversion to aplha: J Morse Code: *-*- (Dot Dash Dot Dash) Morse Code translation: A umlaut (A with two dots over it) Faction COrrelation form t-shirt:unknown One of Seven Member avatar correlation: Unknown [/quote] [quote][url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_fmi-e1315863248391.png?w=100&h=100]Fortuna Minor[/url] Latin Name: Fortuna Minor Translation: Lesser Fortune Binary: 1100 Binary Conversion:12 Binary COnversion to alpha: L Morse Code: **-- (Dot DOt Dash Dash) Morse Code translation: U umlaut (u with two dots over it) Faction correlation form t-shirt:unknown One of Seven member avatar correlation: unknown [/quote] [quote][url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_rub1-e1315863179984.png]Rubeus[/url] Latin Name: Rubeus Translation: Red Binary: 0100 Binary Conversion:4 Binary Conversion to alpha: D Morse Code: -*-- (Dash Dot Dash Dash Mores code translation: Y Faction correlation from t-shirt:FWC [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/]source[/url] One of Seven Member avatar correlation:Unknown [/quote] [quote][url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_lae-e1315863227141.png]Laetitia[/url] Latin Name: Laetitia Translation: Joy Binary: 1000 Binary Conversion:8 Binary conversion to alpha: H Morse Code: *--- (dot dash dash dash) Morse Code translation:J Faction correlation from t-shirts: unknown One of seven avatar correlation:BaghdadBean [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=11042776]source[/url] [/quote] [quote][url=http://digitalambler.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/geomancy_figure_lae-e1315863227141.png]Carcer[/url] Latin Name:Carcer Translation: Prison Binary:1001 Binary COnversion:9 Binary conversion to alpha:p Morse Code: *--*(dot dash dash dot) Morse code Translation: P Faction correlation from t-shirt: unknown One of Seven memeber avatar correlation: Unknown [/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SH4D0W0733 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x Considering they made avatars from it, I'm guessing there's something to it. Perhaps the puzzle will make sense in time; for now, though, it seems there is nothing more to solve. There is no reason to think DeeJ is lying about that and many reasons to think that he is not.[/quote] You really expect us to believe that? You are not only a ninja, but a master ninja. You have clearly been bribed in some way to spread false information. Oh, and don't come with your ''I'm just another community member with a different colour of text''. You still got a clear connection to Bungie making anything you say on the subject suspect.[/quote] I think there is something to this. Double check my stuff and try and fill in unknowns. I am also noticing a differnt type of symbol on the one of seven hoodie *-* -*- * [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/oneofseven_jacket.jpg?w=584&h=438]it's three wide and three down WTF [/url] [Edited on 12.12.2012 2:07 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gestuart88 I also remember the one of 7 winners avatars where changed to one of the symbols. [/quote]I don't remember that part.[/quote]I don't think this happened either. Also, has Deej ever given us that last symbol we need to complete the puzzle?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x Considering they made avatars from it, I'm guessing there's something to it. Perhaps the puzzle will make sense in time; for now, though, it seems there is nothing more to solve. There is no reason to think DeeJ is lying about that and many reasons to think that he is not.[/quote] You really expect us to believe that? You are not only a ninja, but a master ninja. You have clearly been bribed in some way to spread false information. Oh, and don't come with your ''I'm just another community member with a different colour of text''. You still got a clear connection to Bungie making anything you say on the subject suspect.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gestuart88 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass Mods bear with me here I added the numbers together and got this 10-12-20[/quote] How did you get to those numbers? And what made you so sure they refernced the Bible? [/quote] 4666776 4+6 = 10 6+6=12 7+7+6= 20 10-12-20 And I don't know if it's just a coincidence or what it is. another possibility is that all those numbers together equal 42 which is a product of 7. [/quote] I converted the binary numbers into base 10, instead of just counting the dots. 15 - 6 - 10 - 12 - 4 - 8 - 9

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gestuart88 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass Mods bear with me here I added the numbers together and got this 10-12-20[/quote] How did you get to those numbers? And what made you so sure they refernced the Bible? [/quote] 4666776 4+6 = 10 6+6=12 7+7+6= 20 10-12-20 And I don't know if it's just a coincidence or what it is. another possibility is that all those numbers together equal 42 which is a product of 7.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dont pass gass Mods bear with me here I added the numbers together and got this 10-12-20[/quote] How did you get to those numbers? And what made you so sure they refernced the Bible? Also, how did we never thing of the morse code angle. I know there are alot of common translating mistakes in morse code, so can we double check the M L L E E. Update: Binary for the symbols where 1=* and 0=** 1111 0110 1010 1100 0100 1000 1001 I tried to convert each symbol into a letter, I had to go international characters for some of these but I got .... -..- .-.- ..-- -.-- .--- .--. My translation (note a and u are umlaut and I don't know how to input those characters) H X A U Y J P I'm not a computer guy, but isn't there a computer code for these? [Edited on 12.12.2012 5:23 AM PST]

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  • Mods bear with me here I added the numbers together and got this 10-12-20 and I got [url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+10-12%3A20&version=NIV] This. [/url] Mods this is not about religion at all. Listen to this phrase though [quote] The Tower of Babel Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there. They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth." But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The Lord said, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other." So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth. [/quote] We all know bungie likes to use somewhat religious things in their games (obviously halo) So maybe it's related? Maybe it's not. What really got me was this [quote]Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens[/quote] From what we've heard of Destiny so far is that it's our story begins on the last [b]city[/b] on Earth. [Edited on 12.12.2012 3:22 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x Considering they made avatars from it, I'm guessing there's something to it. Perhaps the puzzle will make sense in time; for now, though, it seems there is nothing more to solve. There is no reason to think DeeJ is lying about that and many reasons to think that he is not.[/quote] I agree, there has to be some significance to them. Also any one else notice the amount of binary they seem to be using lately? [Edited on 12.12.2012 2:38 AM PST]

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  • I believe this will be some sort of alternative ending, or story-path that the player can choose to embark upon. Hence, "Destiny."

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  • Im up for some more Geomancy. But this time I don't really feel like a wild goose chase without the go ahead from DeeJ. We always work for days and get all excited, then someone comes in at the last minute and tells us otherwise. :P

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  • Not this again. [i]Your treading in dangerous waters OP...[/i]

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  • [url=http://i.imgur.com/V2dIz.png]I think I understand.[/url] So all we need is a Ouija Board. Then we'll open a portal to Hell and ask for the clue. [Edited on 12.11.2012 7:18 PM PST]

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  • I just assume they have something to do with us venturing out into the stars in Destiny.

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    Bungie has a lot of brain at their disposal, and a lot of bagels. It could really mean anything.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frag Ingot I think each one of the seven uses a different rune.[/quote]Nope. [Edited on 12.11.2012 6:40 PM PST]

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  • okay crazy idea. What if the order of those symbols is a stack system, translating into morse code? Going from left to right, depending on the stack breaks, how it translates to dots/dashes/spaces. Keep in mind that the overall symbol is a 3x4 square, and a break is every blank space from this square. I'm super bored, so my first basic translation system was based on the first three layers, going from the top down, based off of the center column. The top layer decided the number of characters, and the second two layers decided if it was a dot, a space, or a dash. Two dots in the two bottom layers means a dash, one means a dot, and no dots means a space. What did I get from this? M L L E E

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