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You've have the chance to tell the founders of the US two things

The setting is when the US constitution is being signed. You are teleported there in what you're wearing now. And you have the knowledge of what you know from history. What two things would you say to the founders of the US?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dead FallingCP People miss it because that specific clause was never in the constitution. [/quote] also, seperation of church and state means the government can go and create a national church, nothing more then that[/quote] What makes you think that's all it means? From my understanding it actually means a lot more than that.[/quote]Let me put it another way, the government cannt go to a muslim and say there now a jew[/quote] Well yeah, that would go against the free exercise clause. However, the establishment clause also means that the government can not endorse, or promote any one religion over others. The idea that the first amendment was designed to create a wall of separation between church and state comes from a letter from Thomas Jefferson stating that that's what it means. It should also be noted that freedom of religion also includes freedom from religion.

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  • "I'll be back in a few years for your brains. We're totally cloning you bastards back home."

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dead FallingCP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle 1. Tell them to use caps and exclamation marks near the part where government is separated from religion. People seem to miss that nowadays... 2. Tell them about about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq... and make them to write an amendment on not invading other countries.(not that they those have any meaning anymore..) [/quote] People miss it because that specific clause was never in the constitution. [/quote] also, seperation of church and state means the government can go and create a national church, nothing more then that[/quote] What makes you think that's all it means? From my understanding it actually means a lot more than that.[/quote]Let me put it another way, the government cannt go to a muslim and say there now a jew [Edited on 12.08.2012 2:28 PM PST]

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  • I'm shaking my head at every single post in this thread. Including mine.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]Just leave, the man freed the slaves and saved the union[/quote]JFK freed blacks from all discrimination and saved the world.[/quote]he also started us down the road to the war in Vietnam and then there was that whole bay of pigs thing

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scoopicus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Breaking Rose [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] john5550 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Breaking Rose That liberals have taken over the country and that they should let the south have its independence. [/quote]The south is slowing the rest of us down anyway.[/quote] You're an idiot. Cut off the south and cut off most of your food supply and some of your presidents. Not to mention we have very good business down here. [/quote] Oh my god lol. >Confederates lost because they had zero industry >Confederates lost because they didn't have enough food >Confederates lost because without imports, which they couldn't get, they'd be screwed[/quote]Whenever I feel down I just look at the facts and I always end up saying "Wow we're pathetic."

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dead FallingCP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle 1. Tell them to use caps and exclamation marks near the part where government is separated from religion. People seem to miss that nowadays... 2. Tell them about about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq... and make them to write an amendment on not invading other countries.(not that they those have any meaning anymore..) [/quote] People miss it because that specific clause was never in the constitution. [/quote] also, seperation of church and state means the government can go and create a national church, nothing more then that[/quote] What makes you think that's all it means? From my understanding it actually means a lot more than that.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Breaking Rose [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] john5550 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Breaking Rose That liberals have taken over the country and that they should let the south have its independence. [/quote]The south is slowing the rest of us down anyway.[/quote] You're an idiot. Cut off the south and cut off most of your food supply and some of your presidents. Not to mention we have very good business down here. [/quote] Oh my god lol. >Confederates lost because they had zero industry >Confederates lost because they didn't have enough food >Confederates lost because without imports, which they couldn't get, they'd be screwed

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 ....Sort of. Yes and No. Let me give you an example on where it's flawed and where it's good: Tim and Bob get married in....Americavania. Americavania has Same-Sex marriage legalized and full benefits to any marriage in their borders. So Tim and Bob move to....Bigotbama. Bigotbama does not have Same-Sex marriage legalized. The Defense of Marriage Act lets Tim and Bob stay a married couple in Bigotbams, but all the benefits they got from Americavania will not go with them as long as Bigotbama decides not to give those benefits to them. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade Okay. I do only have one more question then. Does the Defense of Marriage Act prohibit same-sex couples from receiving federal benefits regardless of what their state's laws are? [/quote][/quote] Okay, thanks.

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  • 1. Abolish political parties. They'll do nothing but cause trouble and slow down the entire system. 2. Everyone is a human. The blacks, the whites, the Asians, the Latin races, the Native Americans, the Jews, the Muslims, the ga­ys, the strai­ghts, the men and the women. They are all humans, and as such they all deserve the same rights and constitutional protection as the other.

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  • ....Sort of. Yes and No. Let me give you an example on where it's flawed and where it's good: Tim and Bob get married in....Americavania. Americavania has Same-Sex marriage legalized and full benefits to any marriage in their borders. So Tim and Bob move to....Bigotbama. Bigotbama does not have Same-Sex marriage legalized. The Defense of Marriage Act lets Tim and Bob stay a married couple in Bigotbams, but all the benefits they got from Americavania will not go with them as long as Bigotbama decides not to give those benefits to them. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade Okay. I do only have one more question then. Does the Defense of Marriage Act prohibit same-sex couples from receiving federal benefits regardless of what their state's laws are? [/quote] [Edited on 12.08.2012 2:18 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iRdACheef619 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]You could say: give the 16th President - Abraham Lincoln better security and the 35th President - John Kennedy. Remember, you can say two things. [/quote]or better security from the start and not have to deal with it[/quote]Yeah, like recommending the Secret Service manly protect the president for the get-go.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dead FallingCP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle 1. Tell them to use caps and exclamation marks near the part where government is separated from religion. People seem to miss that nowadays... 2. Tell them about about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq... and make them to write an amendment on not invading other countries.(not that they those have any meaning anymore..) [/quote] People miss it because that specific clause was never in the constitution. [/quote] also, seperation of church and state means the government can go and create a national church, nothing more then that

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 The actual Marriage itself is yes, a Federal issue. I should have been more clear. The process of [i]getting Married[/i] however is a State issue. You need a marriage license to get married. The Federal Government does not care who gets married, just like they don't care who get's to legally drive. So that issue is brought up to the States to deal with. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade Just a point of curiosity, aren't there federal benefits from being married? Meaning the people that want same-sex marriages recognized at the federal level are only trying to get equal benefits? [/quote][/quote] Okay. I do only have one more question then. Does the Defence of Marriage Act prohibit same-sex couples from receiving federal benefits regardless of what their state's laws are?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iRdACheef619 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]You could say: give the 16th President - Abraham Lincoln better security and the 35th President - John Kennedy. Remember, you can say two things. [/quote]or better security from the start and not have to deal with it

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle 1. Tell them to use caps and exclamation marks near the part where government is separated from religion. People seem to miss that nowadays... 2. Tell them about about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq... and make them to write an amendment on not invading other countries.(not that they those have any meaning anymore..) [/quote] People miss it because that specific clause was never in the constitution.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iRdACheef619 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]You could say: give the 16th President - Abraham Lincoln better security and the 35th President - John Kennedy. Remember, you can say two things. [/quote] Actually I think setting a wealth limit would have solved a lot of problems.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]You could say: give the 16th President - Abraham Lincoln better security and the 35th President - John Kennedy. Remember, you can say two things.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]Just leave, the man freed the slaves and saved the union[/quote]JFK freed blacks from all discrimination and saved the world.

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  • The actual Marriage itself is yes, a Federal issue. I should have been more clear. The process of [i]getting Married[/i] however is a State issue. You need a marriage license to get married. The Federal Government does not care who gets married, just like they don't care who get's to legally drive. So that issue is brought up to the States to deal with. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade Just a point of curiosity, aren't there federal benefits from being married? Meaning the people that want same-sex marriages recognized at the federal level are only trying to get equal benefits? [/quote] [Edited on 12.08.2012 2:06 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]Just leave, the man freed the slaves and saved the union[/quote] And they both took a bullet to the head so I guess they're both equal right?

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  • I'd only have to say one thing. Don't listen to any of the people posting seriously in this thread.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garem [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.[/quote]Just leave, the man freed the slaves and saved the union

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  • I don't know. Both act completely out of bonds to me. You have Republicans do everything they can stay rich and keep poor people poor, and you have the Democrats who keep trying to abolish personal Wealth. Neither side can agree on anything with the other. They never compromise on any issue. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] St Major Dan Fair enough. Though I disagree with you. [/quote]

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  • Convince them to have equal rights for everyone. No matter their race or gender. I think that would help quite a bit with history.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yourself 332AGN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZippingFilly817 There will be one called John F. Kennedy. When his time comes, hire better security.[/quote]What about Abraham Lincoln, you know the person 'tied' with George Washington for best President and the first president assassinated?[/quote] JFK was so much better than Lincoln.

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