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12/1/2012 7:35:33 PM
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Reach and Halo 4 Compare/Contrast

[u]Things I preferred on Reach:[/u] Forgeworld Better Gametypes and more customization (unless 343i updates H4 so that I can change infection) The Armor was smooth and not ridiculously ugly. Compare Reach Recon to H4 Recon. Visible Health Firefight [u]Things I preferred on H4:[/u] Better Movement Health Recharge UNSC Weapon Killtimes (EX: AR is 16sk; not underpowered) Forge made easier Spartan Ops [u]Things I don't like in Reach[/u] The Things that H4 fixed. [u]Things I don't like in H4:[/u] Hitmarker A damn medal for every damn thing you do. How the medals are shown in the middle of the screen rather than in the bottom right. (Distracting) Infinity Slayer as the main playlist. Ordnance- Every minute some arse now has a damn power weapon. You can spawn with a pistol with shotgun capabilities. 343i needs to fix CTF and Oddball Gametypes. Gametypes like Flood need more customization. Or at least add the old infection back. Infection Customization> Zombies with flood skin. Should have Spartan Ops AND Firefight. Campaign doesn't have theater mode. Most armor is ugly compared to Reach. [b]If you have anything else you want to add, say it and I'll put my thoughts on it.[/b] [Edited on 12.01.2012 12:06 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THOMSY99 It made a massive difference, every game I played was ith Aussies or Kewies. 95% of games had a perfect connection. Turned this off, play with American, or anyone else in the world, Games were laggy 95% of the time.[/quote] Simple answer ... [url=http://www.nirsoft.net/countryip/]start here[/url] ([i]or any similar list[/i]), config your router to filter ip against your port ([i]ie only the ethernet/wireless port that your xbox is connected to , otherwise it could get annoying for others[/i]) and bingo ... instant "[i]prefer good connection[/i]" which works. What bungie could have done to start with, or better if that had used the regional ID off the xbox. Now the down side - there is always one ... #1 - you will have to wait (with reach and H4 numbers being so low), #2 - may get pinged (as opt-in players who join mid match will find it [i]intresting[/i]) And the funny story - 343 have a "[i]backup[/i]" MM service that they will demote you too if they '[i]think[/i]' you are cheating (yep - got there with pushing the packet mods). Ironic part - othen this server has more people on that the legit server ([i]but is missing some playlists and spartan ops[/i])

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oh GodLike One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THOMSY99 Your missing one vital thing that REACH had and Halo 4 doesn't: PREFER GOOD CONNECTION[/quote]Yeah, like that every did anyting.[/quote] It made a massive difference, every game I played was ith Aussies or Kewies. 95% of games had a perfect connection. Turned this off, play with American, or anyone else in the world, Games were laggy 95% of the time. Laggy game frustrates everyone who is playing them, except the host, because he is getting easy kills.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THOMSY99 Your missing one vital thing that REACH had and Halo 4 doesn't: PREFER GOOD CONNECTION[/quote]Yeah, like that every did anyting. Agree the low number of H4 can make for crap MM at times ([i]and ironically 343 kept the "ban" for quitting crap games[/i]). But now that old reach has fallen to #15 your holly "[i]prefer conection[/i]" option is showning what a lame placebo it was.

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  • LOL REACH

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  • Your missing one vital thing that REACH had and Halo 4 doesn't: PREFER GOOD CONNECTION Halo 4 is almost as laggy as Halo 2 sometimes. When I do get to play with people from my own country. The connection is great. Get anyone else from around the world. not so great.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] meagsIZbeast If you think the customs are worse you haven't played with the options enough.[/quote] Guilty as charged. On customs I'm just taking users like Goat's word for it. I figure he'd know what he was talking about. The only gametype I made was a 1v1 variant of Infinity Slayer for the lulz. I just haven't had any call to really adjust the game settings in customs. The issue with Forge... I'll just repost this from HH: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FyreWulff No precision editing, the objects shift around after saving about as badly as Halo 3, Magnets don't actually make certain objects meld together (there's a gap that you can shoot between/throw grenades through), the Impact space station pieces don't all perfectly match up if you're trying to make a map out of them. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z09aF3PIfV8]The Forerunner lawnmower sound.[/url] The fact that there's hardcoded softkills in the map's playable space at all ( Ravine , Erosion ) or the fact that the building on Impact is not aligned on the grid or at an ortho angle (it's not at 90 or 45 degrees, I think Pete figured out to be something like 38). The map overwrite bug from Reach is still there. Pieces now force your Monitor to look at them from a distance, and you can no longer zoom. Pieces push themselves out of the ground (especially on Ravine) even when set to Phased. The Forge lights aren't included in the lightmaps when generated. Loadout cams are still there but pointless as they coat the entire screen in vaseline when the map starts. The fact that you have to wait about 15-20 seconds for a Forge session to actually end because someone though Forgers cared about the scoreboard at the end. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z09aF3PIfV8]The Forerunner lawnmower sound, again.[/url] Also, pieces before that fit into even WUs (1.0, 2.0, 2.5 and such) are now weird sizes (3.2, 4.3, etc). So we have no precise editing, and the pieces are unevenly sized, so you have a hell of time even fixing all the z-fighting this creates. Also, the same damn rocks from Forge World, including Rock Seastack, the most useless of Rocks. Tempest had the Spire, 3 piece that was MUCH better and more usable, and I don't understand why that piece didn't come back. [/quote][/quote]

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  • Halo 4 to me was kind of a flop it didnt seem like 343 took a lot of time on the campaign story. In fact I thought the campaign story all together was kind of bad. Im still a little undecided on the multiplayer although have found myself still playing reach when I dont hav friends bugging me to play H4.

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  • Maybe if I used any of those I would care. Theater hasn't changed really from reach. I haven't used forge yet, but the maps I have seen look fine. If you think the customs are worse you haven't played with the options enough.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] meagsIZbeast H4 beats reach in every category and its not close. [/quote] C'mon, Meagsy. I know you're in that acceptance stage of the changes in Halo, but you can't seriously think that theater, customs, and Forge modes were improved over Reach in Halo 4. They went backwards in all of those categories. Halo 3 had the best theater. Reach had the best Forge (not aesthetically, obviously) overall. I can't speak for customs because I never compared them between H3 and Reach, but they have gone backwards for Halo 4. [Edited on 12.02.2012 9:27 AM PST]

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  • H4 beats reach in every category and its not close.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fatal Factor I prefer reach in many ways. It is and always was a quality game. Its amazing how it took halo 4 to come out to make many people realise that. H4 isnt a bad halo game, but its not bungies halo thats for sure.[/quote] H4 makes Reach look like an even bigger pile of turd.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cisce Plus if 343 at least put some effort into showing that they're paying attention to the community. They've been awfully quiet other than the Map Pack announcement.[/quote] First they copied bungies game, and now 343 is communicating like bungie ... who do they thing they are. As bungie put it ... "[i]We're dark, but you still burn bright[/i] [b]with rage[/b]".

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  • I'd honestly love Halo 4 a lot more if it was more balanced and if Capture the Flag wasn't absolutely horrible. Plus if 343 at least put some effort into showing that they're paying attention to the community. They've been awfully quiet other than the Map Pack announcement.

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  • it baffles me that theres no Forgeworld in H4

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fatal Factor I prefer reach in many ways. It is and always was a quality game. Its amazing how it took halo 4 to come out to make many people realise that.[/quote]"[i]quality game[/i]" - lol. So a game which breaks records of pre-release and day-1 sales ... and then within two weeks looses a vast percentage of those players ... as can be seen by the [b]massive drop in online numbers just two weeks from launch[/b]. Everyone stopped playing the most expensive game purchase of 2010 because it was "[i]quality[/i]" ... dont think so? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fatal Factor H4 isnt a bad halo game, but its not bungies halo thats for sure.[/quote]DUH ... special subject "[i]stating the bleeding obvious[/i]". Everyong knows bungie did make H4, hll bungie did want to make halo 4 ... bungie didnt even want to make reach, but had to because of a legal contract. Microsoft did eventually release them from that contract, but not before reach. Reach ... the game bungie was forced to make ... and doesnt it show.

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  • I preferred Reach's armour over Halo 4. Halo 4's armour doesn't say Spartan to me it says more anime character. However, Halo 4 has some great improvements on top of reach which really kicks that Halo feeling back into you. As well as it having better movement, I've always wondered why a Spartan could only sprint in cut scenes. Saying this though, CE and Halo 3 will forever be my favourite Halo games. [Edited on 12.01.2012 5:24 PM PST]

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  • I prefer reach in many ways. It is and always was a quality game. Its amazing how it took halo 4 to come out to make many people realise that. H4 isnt a bad halo game, but its not bungies halo thats for sure.

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  • Medal earned : Made a new thread +10

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SAAKILLER [u]Things I preferred on Reach:[/u] Forgeworld Better Gametypes and more customization (unless 343i updates H4 so that I can change infection) The Armor was smooth and not ridiculously ugly. Compare Reach Recon to H4 Recon. Visible Health Firefight [u]Things I preferred on H4:[/u] Better Movement Health Recharge UNSC Weapon Killtimes (EX: AR is 16sk; not underpowered) Forge made easier Spartan Ops [u]Things I don't like in Reach[/u] The Things that H4 fixed. [u]Things I don't like in H4:[/u] Hitmarker A damn medal for every damn thing you do. How the medals are shown in the middle of the screen rather than in the bottom right. (Distracting) Infinity Slayer as the main playlist. Ordnance- Every minute some arse now has a damn power weapon. You can spawn with a pistol with shotgun capabilities. 343i needs to fix CTF and Oddball Gametypes. Gametypes like Flood need more customization. Or at least add the old infection back. Infection Customization> Zombies with flood skin. Should have Spartan Ops AND Firefight. Campaign doesn't have theater mode. Most armor is ugly compared to Reach. [b]If you have anything else you want to add, say it and I'll put my thoughts on it.[/b][/quote] I love the reach armor better, I wish 343 would make the mark 5 a DLC. But I love both games, they have things that each don't.(The things you mentioned.)

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