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11/29/2012 12:41:23 PM
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Who the Master Chief really is (MAJOR SPOILERS FOR H4 CAMPAIGN, BOOKS)

I saw this very interesting theory on the Halo subreddit, /r/halo. Note that this doesn't belong to me, I am merely sharing it. Enjoy. [quote]I have a theory, one that I've had for a very long time. Once Halo 4 was released, everything just supported my theory. Ahead, you will read a theory that is very likely to be possible, and true. Unless you possibly want to spoil Halo CE-Halo 6, then don't read. You have been warned. Alright, now that I said that, I'm going to state my conclusion first, then I'm going to give the evidence, I'm not much of a writer, so bear with me. Master Chief is Bornsteller. There. Thats my conclusion. Master Chief has Bornstellar's geas. For those who don't know, Bornstellar is the main character in Cryptum, and also..... the Didact. But not the Halo 4 Didact, that Didact is called the Ur-Didact. Halo 5 and 6 will be the rivalry between the Didact and Chief, and it's all being set up by the Forerunner Books. So..... heres my evidence. In the Forerunner Trilogy, the Didact meets Bornstellar when he's really young, and they travel across the galaxy doing stuff that doesnt matter to my theory. What matters, is that near the end, the Master Builder sentences the Didact to be killed, and Bornstellar doesnt see him after, at all. Bornstellar, who was given a "brevet mutation" by the Didact, starts mutating into the Didact himself, gaining all his memories, attitude, everything. He becomes what we call, the Bornstellar Didact. But, this is only because everyone believes the Ur-Didact(Original Didact) is dead. Bornstellar takes his place. In Silentium, the Ur-Didact returns, as he was dumped on a flood infested installation. We assume the 2 Didacts work together to fight the Flood. After this, nobody knows which Didact did what... was it the Ur-Didact who activated the rings and died, and Bornstellar was the one who used the composer and eventually exiled on Requiem? Or vice versa? I say...... On Requiem and the Halo 4 terminals, that was the Ur-Didact, and the Didact on the Halo 3 terminals, the one who activated the Rings, was Bornstellar. In the Ur-Didact's leave, The Bornstellar Didact fell in love with the Librarian, explaining his words to her in the terminals. Thats what I've established, and now that we have that done, lets explain the Geas.... Chakas had the Lord of Admiral's Geas, right? Well, thats just right. A lot of humans have geas, a command imposed on them, and some humans have personality imprints in them, which came from other humans or forerunners. Hell, the Librarian even programmed Geas' in many humans, and so their children's children's children eventually fulfill that command. Thats exactly what the Librarian did..... but I don't know how, yet, but Spartan Ops Episode 4 suggests she survived on Requiem, so she could've done it after. Somehow, after Bornstellar activated the Halo's, she took his imprint, and implanted it into one human, along with a geas. The geas/imprint was passed down from human to human, generation to generation for over 100,000 thousand years. That imprint/geas..... was passed to Chief. He has no idea. The Librarian says that he is meant to defeat the Didact, and everything has been planned, meaning that she could've set up thousands, maybe millions of geas' in the humans, each meant to help set up the Spartans, and the Chief. This is the quote, "Reclaimer, when I indexed mankind for repopulation, I hid seeds from the Didact. Seeds which would lead to an eventuality. Your physical evolution. Your combat skin. Even your ancilla, Cortana. You are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning." The command imposed on the Chief is to defeat the Didact, and Bornstellar's imprint is on him. The Geas/imprint thing is more fully explained in the Forerunner Trilogy, mostly Primordium. Now how do I know he's Bornstellar? Well, lets look at the games.... Remember when 343 Guilty Spark started being Chief's enemy in Halo: CE? 343 says "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having had considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed. There is no choice. We must activate the ring." The Didact is the one who activated the Rings. Sure, Spark was rampant, but why else would he refer to the Chief as if he is the one activated the rings? This quote also indicates that Chakas/Spark was present when Didact activated the rings. Another quote, immediately after Cortana told Chief that Halo is a weapon, "More or less. Technically, this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty-five thousand light years. But, once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood. But you already knew that... I mean, how couldn't you?" How would Chief already know that? Only one reason. Bornstellar did. BWAAAM. So far, as evidence, is 343 Guilty Spark's words, the Librarians words, and so on. In H3 even, 343 said Chief was Forerunner. Also... Bornstellar can't just exist purely for the fact of making an excuse for the Ur-Didact surviving. From one view, 343 created Bornstellar because the Didact died firing the rings, yet they wanted Chief to fight the Didact. So they could've created him just to allow the Didacts survival. It can't be that simple. Bornstellar is the Protagonist for a reason. Its because he will eventually become the Chief. I have a feeling that over time...... I'll discover that I am right. The Didact will find out, and he will start hating Chief for it, if he doesnt already. The Reclaimer trilogy is the fight between the two Didact's. John 117 has the imprint of Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting in him. And he will find out soon. Thats my theory. Thoughts?[/quote] Here's the [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/13z7kt/who_master_chief_is_campaign_spoilers/]link[/url] to the original post so you can upvote this genius.
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  • I'd totally believe that if it wasn't already extremely apparent that Master Chief is in the Twilight Zone and will realize at the end of Halo 6 that Halo 4-6 were just the journey of his soul going to the afterlife and that the only true Halo games were Ce - ODST (Reach was obviously Noble 6's childhood fantasy in which he got many facts wrong.) [Edited on 12.03.2012 3:32 PM PST]
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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GrandmasterNinja Holy -blam!-! I think this is it, this guy is calling it right now, and I'm pretty sure he's right.[/quote]This. But I'm also thinking, is this plot to complex, to cool to be true?
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  • YES! Thank you! Finally somebody who agrees with me!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] StealthSlasher2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Alfdog Bornstellar Didact was the Halo 4 Didact[/quote] Nope. It's the Ur-Didact in Halo 4, the Ur-Didact's features became hideous in the Terminals where he attempts to mutate himself into a form that is invulnerable to Flood infection but it fails, this happens [i]after[/i] his brevet-mutation on Bornstellar. Bornstellar-Didact is the one who fires the Rings, the Terminals make it abundantly clear that it's the Ur-Didact in Halo 4 and common sense essentially dictates it's him from his dialogue in the game.[/quote] What timestamps the event seen in that Halo 4 terminal after Bornstellar's brevet-mutation?[/quote] The fact that he turns to the Composer as his final option, thus being [i]after[/i] Mendicant Bias' betrayal. The Bornstellar-Didact spends his time travelling around the galaxy helping the Librarian index races according to Silentium's description: [quote]the Bornstellar Didact, who accompanies the Librarian as she preserves specimens against the dire possibility of Halo extermination.[/quote] Silentium also sets up a conflict between the Ur-Didact and the Librarian, which we see come to fruition in Halo 4. [quote]Only the Ur-Didact and the Librarian -- [b]husband and wife pushed into desperate conflict[/b] -- hold the [b]keys[/b] to a solution.[/quote] Librarian's "key" to this solution is humanity, nurturing them to attain the Mantle. The Ur-Didact's "key" is the Composer, using it on humanity to turn them into his Promethean-Knights. This is therefore set after Bornstellar's brevet mutation, since it's only after the meeting with the Juridicals that this solution seems to be discussed.
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  • re-word that question please.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Alfdog Bornstellar Didact was the Halo 4 Didact[/quote] Nope. It's the Ur-Didact in Halo 4, the Ur-Didact's features became hideous in the Terminals where he attempts to mutate himself into a form that is invulnerable to Flood infection but it fails, this happens [i]after[/i] his brevet-mutation on Bornstellar. Bornstellar-Didact is the one who fires the Rings, the Terminals make it abundantly clear that it's the Ur-Didact in Halo 4 and common sense essentially dictates it's him from his dialogue in the game.[/quote] What timestamps the event seen in that Halo 4 terminal after Bornstellar's brevet-mutation?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pokezilla Linked Am I the only one who would be incredibly pissed and disappointed if this were true? I'd stop reading the books, actually. I wouldn't give a -blam!- about the canon anymore.[/quote] This, also, I think the theory is wrong anyway, for multiple reasons already pointed out in the thread that I don't feel like retyping. One thing I will say though, is that I think it's obvious Chief had/has a geas, hence his unnatural 'luck' throughout the games that is always mentioned but never explained. Also, weren't certain AI's supposed to be able to detect a geas? Perhaps Chakkas/Spark knew Chief had a geas and it just contained some information aout when the Halo's were originally fired. It's possible that Chief has a Forerunner geas, but not Bornstellar's. [Edited on 12.01.2012 6:42 AM PST]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XB Fighter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jump Into Hell [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XB Fighter Dude. I'm immaturewalrus. I'm the guy who wrote that. I'm so happy that ended up here. I can provide proof if you want?[/quote] OP here. I believe you. Just wanted to share it, since you hadn't already posted it here. I'll remove the thread if you like. EDIT: I hope your fourth line isn't sarcasm.[/quote] You kidding? I'm almost honored. I'm on B.net all the time, even on my phone. I never expected it to end up here, its a very pleasant surprise, thank you. I'm glad you liked my theory :)[/quote] Thanks a lot man, you're awesome. Great theory too.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jump Into Hell [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XB Fighter Dude. I'm immaturewalrus. I'm the guy who wrote that. I'm so happy that ended up here. I can provide proof if you want?[/quote] OP here. I believe you. Just wanted to share it, since you hadn't already posted it here. I'll remove the thread if you like. EDIT: I hope your fourth line isn't sarcasm.[/quote] You kidding? I'm almost honored. I'm on B.net all the time, even on my phone. I never expected it to end up here, its a very pleasant surprise, thank you. I'm glad you liked my theory :)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XB Fighter Dude. I'm immaturewalrus. I'm the guy who wrote that. I'm so happy that ended up here. I can provide proof if you want?[/quote] OP here. I believe you. Just wanted to share it, since you hadn't already posted it here. I'll remove the thread if you like. EDIT: I hope your fourth line isn't sarcasm. [Edited on 12.01.2012 12:25 AM PST]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cowgoesmoo But... He was abducted into the UNSC program![/quote] And? Chief isn't Bornstellar organically, I'm saying Bornstellars geas(or soul) was passed down from generation to generation all the way to chief. Chief will eventually start hearing Bornstellar start talking in his head.
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  • But... He was abducted into the UNSC program!
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  • Makes a surprising amount of sense. I'll have to read Silentium, the Thursday War, and of course play H5/6 before I know, but I think this guy is on to something.
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  • Well, never mind that, i'll actually contribute to this thread. I mistook many times the difference between a geas and a personality imprint. So don't be surprised if some of it doesnt make sense. Maybe in Halo 5, or Halo 6, the Didact will realize that Chief has the geas of Bornstellar in him, which might give him another reason to hate him. At the end of Silentium, I have a feeling it might end with the Ur-Didact hating Bornstellar, maybe for taking his place? If it doesnt end that way, then Halo 5-6 might end with the Didact coming to his senses. I have no idea if either of these will happen, its just speculation.
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  • Dude. I'm immaturewalrus. I'm the guy who wrote that. I'm so happy that ended up here. I can provide proof if you want?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog Yeah, thought this myself as soon as John heard the Didact's voice in Shutdown and Cortana didn't. [/quote] Having just played that level again, he doesn't sound like Bornstellar, the way he was openly hostile, taunting not only Chief but all of humanity, threatening to compose him, saying he's a fool, and already knowing that the Composer was on Halo 03. It was a nice thought, but nothing suggests that was Born's consciousness.
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  • This is an awesome theory, but there's just one problem. Several of the pieces of evidence provided originate from Combat Evolved. I have a hard time believing Bungie partially came up with this over eleven years ago.
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  • Yeah, thought this myself as soon as John heard the Didact's voice in Shutdown and Cortana didn't.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] car15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pokezilla Linked Am I the only one who would be incredibly pissed and disappointed if this were true? I'd stop reading the books, actually. I wouldn't give a -blam!- about the canon anymore.[/quote] You serious? This would be awesome. It would finally give relevance to 343GS's weird comments in the first game.[/quote] Lol, I remember someone saying a few months back that the Chief would travel back in time in Halo 4. Pretty funny, that. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] agent wash282 Yeah I agree he might have geas maybe even an imprint but if he does its probably an ancient human soldier or forerunner soldier.[/quote] Agreed. But I think it'd most likely be a human. An important one, like Riser or Vinnerva or something. I don't think a Forerunner has had itself imprinted on a 'lesser being' before though, I imagine they'd find it insulting.
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  • Yeah I agree he might have geas maybe even an imprint but if he does its probably an ancient human soldier or forerunner soldier.
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  • I'm completely lost on which side I should take. Ur-Didact seems like the obvious culprit for using the Composer but Bornstellar heard from the Primordial and may have even believed himself to be the original. Nonetheless, that sounds like it would turn out great.
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  • Yeah sorry but, chief is chief to me, he isn't some stupid forerunner from the expanded universe. I am going to get bashed horribly for this but that's just my opinion. I am sure Bungie intended him to be just that as well.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cgauthier7304 "John 117 has the imprint of Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting in him. And he will find out soon. Thats my theory. Thoughts?" I think thats why on the closing scene of Halo 4 they have Chief taking off his armor (Never a big focus in the books). They had so much focus on that, which I think means that he is about to find out about his imprint. Also I think this is why they try to keep his face hidden so much (aka. is actual body) maybe because of that mark.[/quote] lolno
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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pokezilla Linked Am I the only one who would be incredibly pissed and disappointed if this were true? I'd stop reading the books, actually. I wouldn't give a -blam!- about the canon anymore.[/quote] You serious? This would be awesome. It would finally give relevance to 343GS's weird comments in the first game.
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  • Amazing theory, and I [i]would[/i] completely agree... If it weren't for the fact we all know who the Chief [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAOo8nE8_Jg&t=0m37s]really is[/url] [Edited on 11.29.2012 4:41 PM PST]
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  • Well, that's cool. Maybe I should read those new books... I stopped after Contact Harvest. I met Staten at ComicCon that year along with Nyland. Ahhh, the good ol' days.
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