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11/23/2012 5:43:35 PM
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Human questioning of the Primordial

[quote]When the Flood were first encountered in the Milky Way, several humans questioned the prisoner as to the nature and origin of the "disease". When the prisoner gave them an answer, the humans present were so deeply horrified that many of them committed suicide.[/quote] What do you think this means? (Prisoner refers to the Primordial/Timeless One)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 I totally agree with you, they ruined a great chance for the halo cannon, the flood lost most of its mystery.[/quote] The Flood were never mysterious until the Gravemind came into the picture, even then they simply filled the role of generic alien parasite acting as a third party foe to unify the current foes (humanity and the Sangheili). The only real substance they were given was the fact that they were the catalyst for the creation of the Halo Rings. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gamma617g What a horrifyingly idiotic eventuality this will be.[/quote] Do provide some exposition on how it's "horrifyingly idiotic", otherwise you're just making sweeping statements based solely off your own prejudice... [quote]I liked it better when Halo canon [b]couldn't blame everything on yet another ancient Alien race[/b].[/quote] Please illustrate when this was [i]ever[/i] the case. Forerunners created the Halos because of the Flood, Halos are maintained by the Monitors, Covenant want to kill humanity because of their belief in the Great Journey enacted by the Forerunners, Covenant release the Flood, Flood have a central intelligence known as the Gravemind, the Portal on Earth was constructe by a Forerunner, the portal led to the Ark which was also created by the Forerunners, the Ark created the Halos... and so it goes on. Just about [i]every[/i] major plot point or twist is ingrained with the actions of an ancient alien race and has been since the very start of the series. [quote]The Flood was more disturbing as a biological, evolutionary certainty instead of a manufactured weapon.[/quote] I think some people here don't actually understand the way the Flood have progressed... The Flood are not simply a manufactured weapon, in fact if anything 343i have consolidated the Flood as biological, evolutionary certainty through the exposition granted by the Timeless one. The Flood are the perfect form of life, you accept them as evolution's final step and submit to them to attain the Mantle or else you get wiped out. Refer back to the top of my post.
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  • I totally agree with you, they ruined a great chance for the halo cannon, the flood lost most of its mystery.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gamma617g [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Madmaxepic What I want to know: Are the Flood and the Precursors one and the same?[/quote] What a horrifyingly idiotic eventuality this will be. I liked it better when Halo canon couldn't blame everything on yet another ancient Alien race. The Flood was more disturbing as a biological, evolutionary certainty instead of a manufactured weapon. [/quote] That's really the only thing I was disappointed about in the Forerunner saga. The Flood went from an extra galactic, hyper evolved galaxy consuming "race" to just a weapon. All the mystery and fear that came from them in the past was just reduced to, "Oh, hyper advanced weapon, s'pose we gotta kill it then."
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Madmaxepic What I want to know: Are the Flood and the Precursors one and the same?[/quote] No, the Precursors created the Flood to unite the galaxy. The Primordial is just a Precursor who happened to be a Gravemind.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Madmaxepic What I want to know: Are the Flood and the Precursors one and the same?[/quote] What a horrifyingly idiotic eventuality this will be. I liked it better when Halo canon couldn't blame everything on yet another ancient Alien race. The Flood was more disturbing as a biological, evolutionary certainty instead of a manufactured weapon.
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  • What do you think this means? (Prisoner refers to the Primordial/Timeless One
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    What I want to know: Are the Flood and the Precursors one and the same?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jump Into Hell Just reread Primordium and I realised what this meant. When Chakas and the Didact were questioning the Primordium, it revealed that the Flood was meant as a means to bring unity to all in the galaxy, at the cost of immense pain. The Flood will always be around, since there is no cure and no immunity. Forthencho sums this up, saying, "No immunity and no cure. There is only struggle, or succumb. Either way, the Primordial will have its due. We have met our creators, they have given us the answers we sought - and that is our curse." The humans were horrified by this truth - there was no way to eradicate the Flood, so their ultimate fate was either eternal struggle or eternal pain as a host to the Shaping Sickness.[/quote] [i]I am a Timeless chorus. Join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting![/i]
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  • Just reread Primordium and I realised what this meant. When Chakas and the Didact were questioning the Primordium, it revealed that the Flood was meant as a means to bring unity to all in the galaxy, at the cost of immense pain. The Flood will always be around, since there is no cure and no immunity. Forthencho sums this up, saying, "No immunity and no cure. There is only struggle, or succumb. Either way, the Primordial will have its due. We have met our creators, they have given us the answers we sought - and that is our curse." The humans were horrified by this truth - there was no way to eradicate the Flood, so their ultimate fate was either eternal struggle or eternal pain as a host to the Shaping Sickness.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jump Into Hell It means that they were so deeply horrified they committed suicide.[/quote] lol the bedtime story was too scary for the kiddies to sleep. I personally think it's shoddy writing when writers write something like this. Bit crappy, 'the man so scary he made everyone in the room piss themselves.' etc It's like some BS story some kid down the road made up to make you think he's cool. No substance. All talk. Poor.[/quote] So you're saying that nothing the Primordial had to say could have reasonably warrented the suicides and low morale of the humans? It is kept a mystery so the sequels can have something to talk about. The result is so extreme to portray how enigmatic and dangerous the Primordial is.
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  • Yprin was idiotic enough to let the primordial speak on broadcast to human worlds. Thus it spoke of some truth that was just too much to bear in which Forthencho said "lowered our morale" and later commented that it nearly destroyed them. [Edited on 11.23.2012 5:42 PM PST]
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  • Maybe he planted an image of the Flood devouring whole species in their heads, and they just 'opted out'.
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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jump Into Hell It means that they were so deeply horrified they committed suicide.[/quote] lol the bedtime story was too scary for the kiddies to sleep. I personally think it's shoddy writing when writers write something like this. Bit crappy, 'the man so scary he made everyone in the room piss themselves.' etc It's like some BS story some kid down the road made up to make you think he's cool. No substance. All talk. Poor.
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  • It means that they were so deeply horrified they committed suicide.
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