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11/10/2012 11:43:46 PM
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Vaccinations are extremely harmful; natural remedies are essential
I don't understand all the parents who actually [i]choose[/i] to inject their children with viruses, especially with all the new evidence coming out about the dangers of vaccines.
Instead of damaging our children with small strains of illnesses that are designed to attack the immune system, we need to use safe, natural remedies to fight infections [i]with[/i] our immune systems.
Agree?
[Edited on 11.10.2012 3:46 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Technoxious [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi I never mentioned Big Medicine. I meant Big Herbalism, or Homeopathy, or whatever you want to call it. [/quote] Look, man: even if there was such thing as Big Hebalism (which there isn't), it wouldn't be a bad thing. The idea of herbalism is to increase the health of our society. The idea of pharmaceutics is to make money.[/quote] Nah, that's just what Big Herbalism has brainwashed you with. They are only about money as well, they're just waiting until sheep like you get rid of Big Medicine to do it. Obv.[/quote]lolno
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi And you are citing sources from Big Homeopathy. What exactly is the difference?[/quote]For the last time - it's not homeopathy, it's herbalism. And the idea of "Big Herbalism" is ludicrous. Herbalism is a very underground, research-based movement.[/quote][url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32219873/ns/health-alternative_medicine/t/billion-spent-yearly-alternative-medicine/#.UJ8SQs19J8E]Americans spend 34 BILLION dollars on alternative medicine each year; it's big business.[/url] [Edited on 11.10.2012 6:51 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi I never mentioned Big Medicine. I meant Big Herbalism, or Homeopathy, or whatever you want to call it. [/quote] Look, man: even if there was such thing as Big Hebalism (which there isn't), it wouldn't be a bad thing. The idea of herbalism is to increase the health of our society. The idea of pharmaceutics is to make money.[/quote] Nah, that's just what Big Herbalism has brainwashed you with. They are only about money as well, they're just waiting until sheep like you get rid of Big Medicine to do it. Obv.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi I never mentioned Big Medicine. I meant Big Herbalism, or Homeopathy, or whatever you want to call it. [/quote] Look, man: even if there was such thing as Big Herbalism (which there isn't), it wouldn't be a bad thing. The idea of herbalism is to increase the health of our society. The idea of pharmaceutics is to make money. [Edited on 11.10.2012 6:50 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SpartanMk18 We are way to dependent on Antibiotics. We could seriously see a time when they become useless as bacteria and viruses evolve into a state where antibiotics have no effect. we owe it to our species to not abuse vaccines and medicine. Flu shots to me, are absolutely retarded. It's an easily combated virus and people still choose to get inoculated each year because the virus is ever evolving. [/quote] First of all, I'm guessing you've only ever had very mild cases of flu, if even that. Severe cases of flu can last for weeks and will keep you in bed, throwing up that entire time. Second of all, vaccines and antibiotics are very different things. An antibiotic is usually some protein or compound that has some specific mechanism which the targeted organism can overcome through mutation. A vaccine is a dead or harmless version of some virus that allows your immune system to create antibodies for the virus while it is unable to do any real damage to you, so when you do get infected with the real virus, your body can just beat it down the old fashioned way. For vaccines, we just use the updated version of the virus, so its an entirely different matter than when we get organisms capable of resisting antibiotics.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind I don't understand all the parents who actually [i]choose[/i] to inject their children with viruses, especially with all the new evidence coming out about the dangers of vaccines. Instead of damaging our children with small strains of illnesses that are designed to attack the immune system, we need to use safe, natural remedies to fight infections [i]with[/i] our immune systems. Agree?[/quote] haha hahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA
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I never mentioned Big Medicine. I meant Big Herbalism, or Homeopathy, or whatever you want to call it.
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This thread is still going?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi Clearly brainwashed. Look at you, thinking individual herbalists are not in the pockets of the big companies. Who do you think pays for herbalists research?[/quote] LOL Let me get this straight: Big Medicine pays herbalists to write books and books of information that go [i]against[/i] Big Medicine? All of my wat.
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Clearly brainwashed. Look at you, thinking individual herbalists are not in the pockets of the big companies. Who do you think pays for herbalists research?
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Ok, here is my view on it. Diseses like Smallpox, the Plague, lockjaw, etc... are only capable of being fought through vaccination. However, we owe it to our selves to do our best to let our own immune system fight infection. We are way to dependent on Antibiotics. We could seriously see a time when they become useless as bacteria and viruses evolve into a state where antibiotics have no effect. we owe it to our species to not abuse vaccines and medicine. Flu shots to me, are absolutely retarded. It's an easily combated virus and people still choose to get inoculated each year because the virus is ever evolving. Let your immune system work. If you feel that you are losing the battle seek medical help. We must do what we can to not force the evolution of these terrible viruses. Using antibiotics will only speed their evolution. What's being sick for a few days compared to an evolving virus?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi And you are citing sources from Big Homeopathy. What exactly is the difference?[/quote]For the last time - it's not homeopathy, it's herbalism. And the idea of "Big Herbalism" is ludicrous. Herbalism is a very underground, research-based movement.[/quote]That's what they want you to think, clearly you've been taken in by the propaganda. Call it whatever you want, you've simply been brainwashed by organisations like the AHG and NPA.[/quote]I don't listen to those brainwashed idiots; they're not herbalists. I'm talking about people who [i]actually[/i] believe in good.
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I have given no sources as I don't need to. You have to prove your point, not I disprove it. ©
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi And you are citing sources from Big Homeopathy. What exactly is the difference?[/quote]For the last time - it's not homeopathy, it's herbalism. And the idea of "Big Herbalism" is ludicrous. Herbalism is a very underground, research-based movement.[/quote]That's what they want you to think, clearly you've been taken in by the propaganda. Call it whatever you want, you've simply been brainwashed by organisations like the AHG and NPA.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind I just listed three sources in the last page. And, yes. It's common knowledge that most of the Ivy League schools are heavily influenced by Big Medicine.[/quote]2/3 of those are clearly biased. Try again.[/quote] If by "biased" you mean "untouched by the pharmaceutical agenda", then, yeah.[/quote]Being for organic medicine from the beginning clearly makes a report biased. Find a report that is not from a resource that clearly has a pro-organic agenda and, if presented with information with the contrary of that found in their study, would approach it with an open mind rather than doing what you're doing. © P.S. Did you just say Herbalism is a movement? LOL someone remove this man's internets.[/quote]And every source you give me has an obvious pro-vaccination agenda. Also, herbalism is indeed a movement.
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How did this get to be 10 pages when it's so painfully obvious he's messing with you guys?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind I just listed three sources in the last page. And, yes. It's common knowledge that most of the Ivy League schools are heavily influenced by Big Medicine.[/quote]2/3 of those are clearly biased. Try again.[/quote] If by "biased" you mean "untouched by the pharmaceutical agenda", then, yeah.[/quote]Being for organic medicine from the beginning clearly makes a report biased. Find a report that is not from a resource that clearly has a pro-organic agenda and, if presented with information with the contrary of that found in their study, would approach it with an open mind rather than doing what you're doing. © P.S. Did you just say Herbalism is a movement? LOL someone remove this man's internets. [Edited on 11.10.2012 6:35 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi And you are citing sources from Big Homeopathy. What exactly is the difference?[/quote]For the last time - it's not homeopathy, it's herbalism. And the idea of "Big Herbalism" is ludicrous. Herbalism is a very underground, research-based movement.
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And you are citing sources from Big Homeopathy. What exactly is the difference?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi So you are clinging to the work of higher authority, something you called out others for doing?[/quote] That's not was I was calling out others for. They were citing sources from "scientific" studies that were carried out by Big Medicine employees. Pretty much a load of bull-blam!- propaganda.
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So you are clinging to the work of higher authority, something you called out others for doing?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi So you are appealing to higher authority on the subject then?[/quote] Yes, but not a higher authority on the social ladder.
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So you are appealing to higher authority on the subject then?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi So you are basing your position on the interpretation of results of testing carried out by entirely unqualified off topic forum posters?[/quote] No, I'm basing it on renowned herbalists. [Edited on 11.10.2012 6:26 PM PST]
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So you are basing your position on the interpretation of results of testing carried out by entirely unqualified off topic forum posters?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nerd Boi [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiberatorOfMind [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Deadlock v3 [url=http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vaccine_denialism]Vaccine Denialism[/url][/quote] Rational Wiki? [i]Really?[/i] God, people will do anything to be slaves to a higher authority these days.[/quote]As opposed to yourself, who is basing your position on extensive testing that you have carried out?[/quote]No, basing it on extensive testing that others have carried out.[/quote]So you are appealing to a higher authority?[/quote]No, how did you leap to that conclusion?
