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10/27/2012 5:30:32 PM
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Well this is Bizarre. Where's Osiris and Seven Seraphs?

As some of you may recall, back on Bungie Day the webteam released several new avatars and themes for use on Bungie.net. Among them we found five symbols that had been popping up on employee shirts which appeared to match the names that Bungie registered domains for and copyrighted way back when, symbols which we currently believe belong to five in-game factions: [quote][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/skins/default/avatars/bungiedayav1.jpg]bungiedayav1 - Dead Orbit[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/skins/default/avatars/bungiedayav2.jpg]bungiedayav2 - Future War Cult[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/skins/default/avatars/bungiedayav3.jpg]bungiedayav3 - New Monarchy[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/skins/default/avatars/bungiedayav4.jpg]bungiedayav4 - Osiris[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/skins/default/avatars/bungiedayav5.jpg]bungiedayav5 - Seven Seraphs[/url][/quote]To go along with the avatars, [url=http://www.bungiestore.com/category/71896787521/1/Bungie-Collection.htm]Bungie released several shirts featuring these symbols in their store[/url], and their product infos strongly hinted towards a correlations between the symbols and the domain names that had been registered. However for some reason, only Dead Orbit, Future War Cult, and New Monarchy got a shirt. Osiris and the Seven Seraphs were left without one. If all five of these symbols represent playable factions, it sorta seems like an oversight to not create a shirt for all five. When asked about the missing shirts in the [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=32144]25th mailsack[/url], DeeJ [url=http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/Hylebosaiden/Willtheshirtsbeaddedtothestore.png]completely avoided the question[/url]. So why was Osiris and Seven Seraphs left out? It was a question many asked, but was soon forgotten. But I became suspicious once again when I read the [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=32148]26th Mailsack[/url] and found that after being asked, [url=http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/Hylebosaiden/WhatsyourfavoriteAvatar.png]"Which is your favorite Avatar that was added on Bungie Day?"[/url], the Bungie employees recommended Future War Cult, New Monarchy, Dead Orbit... but Osiris and the Seven Seraphs were nowhere to be found. Again, that seems odd to me. On one hand, it may very well be that the seven panelists might simply prefer those designs over Seven Seraphs and Osiris. But on the other hand, what if there was a different reason for their motivation? If these symbols do represent playable factions, then it would make sense for the employees to choose the faction they like most. So if nobody chose Osiris or the Seven Seraphs, does that mean that they aren't in the game anymore or they aren't what we think they are? I created a thread about this which garnered a little discussion, but quickly died and became forgotten. I myself had forgotten entirely about Seven Seraph's and Osiris' neglect until I read [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid32220]last night's mailsack[/url]. After reading about the Pumpking Carving contest, I went to facebook for more details:[quote][url=http://www.facebook.com/Bungie]We have a new photo gallery live right here on Facebook. Would you like to win some rare Bungie swag? Carve a pumpkin based on any of the mysterious icons that are being baked into our work-in-progress. Step 1: Cut a hole in a [pumpkin]. [b][u]Step 2: Create a work of physical art based on our graphical art.[/u][/b] Step 3: Post to your Facebook page. Step 4: Take a screenshot. Step 5: Link to it in a comment to this update. Step 6: Check back here on Halloween to vote on finalists. Step 7: Dominate the World. [b][u]Here is subject matter for your inspiration.[/u][/b] https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151109351731149.444183.57193326148&type=1 Reap your reward. Grand Prize = Bungie hoodie 7 Finalists = Bungie t-shirt[/quote][/url]Having three uncarved pumpkins myself, I clicked on the [url=http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151109351731149.444183.57193326148&type=1]Subject Matter Gallery[/url] to see what I had to work with. ... Once again. Dead Orbit. New Monarchy. Future War Cult. But no Osiris, and no Seven Seraphs. Has Osiris and Dead Orbit become the Thom and Rosenda of Destiny? Or were we wrong to assume that all five of the symbols were playable factions? It just seems bizarre that they would introduce these five symbols and only actively promote three of them, and now I am certain that there has to be a reason behind this uneven support. I am incredibly curious to see if any Seven Seraphs or Osiris entries make it to the finals of the Pumpkin Carving Contest, I highly encourage someone to carve these designs into their pumpkins to see what happens. Your thoughts, community?
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  • To be honest, Osiris and Seven Seraphs sound like baddies to me - I'm guessing they are enemy groups, and not good factions.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts).[/quote] Duardo confirmed an anarchist government is evil
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  • Wait... weren't there images floating around somewhere of employees wearing a shirt with the Osiris symbol?
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  • Isn't it obvious? Osiris and Seven Seraphs are DLC. ;)
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  • Maybe we can't control all factions. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkilPhil Maybe Osiris and 7 Seraphs aren't factions, maybe they represent faction aliances or some other form of aliance within the game.[/quote]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts)?[/quote] Seems likely, why else would they seem to discourage association with the names/symbols? They could also be aspects of the game that simply aren't suitable for the same PR treatment as the supposed factions - though what conclusion one could draw from that I do not know.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Could be these two factions are our enemies in their next game (like a government of sorts)?[/quote] Fixed.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos Unless there was another time, but that's the only event I remember.[/quote] Hylebos, that is what I was referring to. ;) My guess will be the next Bungie Day, but getting back on topic, these two possible factions are still out there. :)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pfhor007 Remember people back then they were asked when the other shirts would be released, and Bungie said at a later date.[/quote]Actually, as I linked in the original post, DeeJ used the entire "Will the Osiris and Seven Seraph Shirts be released eventually?" question to go off on a tangent about how Marty had been instructing him about the useage of the word Soon to dodge questions. Unless there was another time, but that's the only event I remember.
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  • Maybe Osiris and 7 Seraphs aren't factions, maybe they represent faction aliances or some other form of aliance within the game.
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  • On a secret mission to defend teh worldz.
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  • The most logical conclusion is that Bungie is -blam!- with us, honestly.
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  • They are still in the game. Bungie employees wore their shirts at Bungie Day 2012 and PAX 2012. Nothing to worry about people, the most logical conclusion is that Bungie wanted to use the three which they released for shirts on Bungie Day. Remember people back then they were asked when the other shirts would be released, and Bungie said at a later date. I REPEAT, they should still be in the game. :)
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FALSE R3ALITYx Hylebos is DeeJs alt[/quote]I'm Deej?[/quote]Don't flatter yourself Stache.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FALSE R3ALITYx Hylebos is DeeJs alt[/quote]I'm Deej?
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  • We know from the contract with Activision that Destiny will have downloadable content before the sequel is released. Maybe Orisis and Seven Seraphs are going to be part of expansion packs?
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  • I've been a ferent fan of Osiris since Bungie Day and have wondered the same thing. I do remember seeing some Seven Seraph and Osiris t-shirts, but I forget where. ViDoc maybe? I have not the slightest clue of why they've excluded them. Good post.
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  • Speaking of factions... I just really hope to god this game is nothing like M.A.G (Massive Action Game) by Zipper Interactive. It is indeed one of the worst multiplayer first person shooter game I have ever played.
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  • Waiting for a Bungie employee to confirm or deny this speculation... I'll backtrace you if you don't Bungie; my mother is the Commissioner of the International Cyber Police.
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  • Hylebos is DeeJs alt
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  • Osiris is dominate
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  • I think they've either been cut or are the enemy factions. Those are the 2 most likely reasons to me anyway.
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  • I smell conspiracy! I demand as old timer client and bungie purchaser, this questions to be answered! [Edited on 10.28.2012 4:43 PM PDT]
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    Oh hai - old

    I feel as though them withholding these two factions means they are simply going to retain more of an air of mystery about them.
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  • I'd be pissed if the Seven Seraphs aren't in the game, they sound the best.
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  • Them not being in the game anymore is an interesting theory. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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