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Who would win? Halo Universe or Star Wars Universe?

So my friend told me Star Wars can beat Halo and i said no. Then an discussion broke out which could win, then other people got involved. We need to resolve this as I know tthis will not end. Halo has: -Master Chief -Cortana -Forunners -UNSC -Covenant -Halo Rings Star Wars: -Jedi/Sith -Death Star -Star Killer -Darth Vader -Starcrusher -Stormtroopers(Regular enlisted men) -Droids -All the aliens and weapons from every inhabited world
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.[/quote] BS. Where is your source?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ash Kehtchum Using slip space drive launchers equipped with the latest forerunner advancements they launch nova bombs into slipspace and have them drop out of slipspace inside the star wars ships. Any ship not bigger than a planet is instantly obliterated. What now -blam!-es? [/quote] Like I said earlier, they just enter hyperspace and chill on a trip away from the area. Alternate dimension that Halo doesn't know how to enter or attack at all. Oh, and Star Wars ships could resist those easily. Star Wars already uses nukes in their missiles, and they can have trouble getting through shields. Star Wars shields are exceptionally strong, and the planetary shield generators alone could hold off a glassing, nukes, or anything else. Again, only ONE Star Destroyer is needed to destroy a planet in a day. Just one. And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i]. The shields of Star Wars ships are too strong, and all that's needed is a Sith Lord to wipe out a fleet. Palpatine alone could take out an entire fleet, be it flood, forerunner, precursor, UNSC, or covie. [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_storm_%28wormhole%29]Force Storms[/url] It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look. Force Insanity is dangerous. There's also force powers that can vaporize entire groups of enemies. So if the Arbiter and the Chief attack with spartans, a Sith just stares at them and they are vaporized.[/quote] Just saying, but it is pretty hard for all you said to have happened when an array of 13 Halos destroys everything first. [/quote] As I said earlier, they just need to enter hyperspace and they'd survived unharmed. Then they simply show up and the front door of the halos and destroy them. Not to mention that the Sun Crusher's armor would likely be impervious to any assault, as it was actually invincible and could survive flying into a sun, without any special trick. Its armor was that strong, and it was armed with weapons that could destroy a solar system in one shot. And again, immortal deities, invincible undead sith, hive minds that work as a single force entity, etc. And the Vong would also be fighting on the side of the Star Wars guys, and they'd royally -blam!- over the Halo stuff. Like I've stated earlier. Halo tech looks like cute stuff next to Star Wars. Only Warhammer and Doctor Who could fight it.[/quote] But exactly HOW do they know those weapons even exist? From what I understand this whole clash of universe happens like it would in real life, no one knows what the enemy is like. Ergo, if your mighty Star Wars people crush the first wave of precursors and forerunners (Which I highly doubt) the remaining millions of Halo Forunners and such can activate the rings. The Star Wars guys would never see it coming. And even if the SW people attacked first, word could be sent back to those in control of the Halos and boom. Checkmate. Either way.[/quote] Force users can read minds.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.[/quote] No, the Celestials, and their derivatives, the Ones, control everything that is touched by the Force also, why was this thread necro-bumped? [Edited on 10.17.2012 4:49 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.[/quote] Since when?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ash Kehtchum Using slip space drive launchers equipped with the latest forerunner advancements they launch nova bombs into slipspace and have them drop out of slipspace inside the star wars ships. Any ship not bigger than a planet is instantly obliterated. What now -blam!-es? [/quote] Like I said earlier, they just enter hyperspace and chill on a trip away from the area. Alternate dimension that Halo doesn't know how to enter or attack at all. Oh, and Star Wars ships could resist those easily. Star Wars already uses nukes in their missiles, and they can have trouble getting through shields. Star Wars shields are exceptionally strong, and the planetary shield generators alone could hold off a glassing, nukes, or anything else. Again, only ONE Star Destroyer is needed to destroy a planet in a day. Just one. And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i]. The shields of Star Wars ships are too strong, and all that's needed is a Sith Lord to wipe out a fleet. Palpatine alone could take out an entire fleet, be it flood, forerunner, precursor, UNSC, or covie. [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_storm_%28wormhole%29]Force Storms[/url] It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look. Force Insanity is dangerous. There's also force powers that can vaporize entire groups of enemies. So if the Arbiter and the Chief attack with spartans, a Sith just stares at them and they are vaporized.[/quote] Just saying, but it is pretty hard for all you said to have happened when an array of 13 Halos destroys everything first. [/quote] As I said earlier, they just need to enter hyperspace and they'd survived unharmed. Then they simply show up and the front door of the halos and destroy them. Not to mention that the Sun Crusher's armor would likely be impervious to any assault, as it was actually invincible and could survive flying into a sun, without any special trick. Its armor was that strong, and it was armed with weapons that could destroy a solar system in one shot. And again, immortal deities, invincible undead sith, hive minds that work as a single force entity, etc. And the Vong would also be fighting on the side of the Star Wars guys, and they'd royally -blam!- over the Halo stuff. Like I've stated earlier. Halo tech looks like cute stuff next to Star Wars. Only Warhammer and Doctor Who could fight it.[/quote] But exactly HOW do they know those weapons even exist? From what I understand this whole clash of universe happens like it would in real life, no one knows what the enemy is like. Ergo, if your mighty Star Wars people crush the first wave of precursors and forerunners (Which I highly doubt) the remaining millions of Halo Forunners and such can activate the rings. The Star Wars guys would never see it coming. And even if the SW people attacked first, word could be sent back to those in control of the Halos and boom. Checkmate. Either way.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] D Deity [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [/quote]You have finally returned to B.net OT: Precursors.[/quote] When did I leave? OT: Wookies. They're space yetis. They >>> the Precursors.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [/quote]You have finally returned to B.net OT: Precursors.

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  • Halo is only powerful in its own universe. The Star Wars universe would stump the Halo universe.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaneXX12 First of all, if B is chosen, only weak minded can have their mind controlled. And, the human fleet was not recently decimated, it just gained the enormous Infinity.[/quote] Cool. What's it armed with? [quote]The elites also have the covenant technology.[/quote] But do they have anything that can take out a Death Star? [quote]Plus, as I mentioned before, the Halo Array would wipe out a good deal of Star Wars.[/quote] ...And Halo. [quote]While this happens, the human Ai, prometheans, watchers, sentinels (which include enforcers and larger), monitors, and crawlers would survive the blast.[/quote] I assume you mean the Promethean Knights? [quote]And the elites, humans, hunters, etc can all go into the shield world while Halo fires.[/quote] I doubt they could get every single one of every single species in one before Star Wars stomps all over them. Something like that would take months, probably years to organize. [quote]Humans also have access to forerunner technology so they still have the power of forerunners.[/quote] Technology they barely know how to use, much less use in combat. [quote]The flood is still around actually. There are the flood containment facilities all over the galaxy, the containment facilities on the six remaining rings and some on the Ark. Also, using the force to find out Halo's plans are not that simple. If it was, they would have found out the plans of the separatists or the empire from the start.[/quote] Can't Force users read minds or whatever? I know it gives you all sorts of crazy powers, so it wouldn't surprise me. Not to mention a Jedi could storm all over Halo alone faster than John did in Halo 1 with all those marines backing him up.

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  • You know what I find funny about this thread? People keep bringing up the Flood and Precursors as the reasons Halo falls, but fail to understand that [u]neither of them are included in the debate, as specified by the OP.[/u]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Carrier ...Yet its been proven that Forerunner ships are more powerful than Star Wars armadas.[/quote] Please, direct me to that post. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] shadow 2648 they also think that a star wars ship can take a hit from a supper mac and not take damage... Like i said. [/quote] Basic Star Destroyer shields can take a minumum of 6X10^19 joules as far as can be calculated, a super MAC delivers 2.16X10^20 joules. Quite possible that it would break the shielding. The standard MACs would be entirely useless. Anyway, to bring things to a close here, I'll re-illustrate why it is that the Haloverse will lose for you. First, choose which one of these universes you want to operate with: [quote]A) True Halo and Star Wars total universes: Everything to ever canonically exist in the respective universes is included in the battle.[/quote][quote]B) Latest representation of Halo and Star Wars universes: Everything which currently canonically exists at the latest chronological point in their universe.[/quote] If you choose A, then every Force user ever combines their power to rip the Halo fleets apart at the molecular level, create vast Force-lightning storms to destroy the fleets, create wormholes to swallow the fleets, use their own ships against them, or mind control the majority of them. All from a safe distance, simply sitting around in nice chairs. If you choose B, then the Halo troops have no Forerunner or Precursor, they have a recently decimated Covenant and UNSC, and no Flood to speak of. They then have to deal with the more powerful Star Wars forces knowing every action, every plan, every attack or defense they set up, before they even conceive of it. They will be playing a chess game with someone who can't just read their minds, but also see the future, and control many of their minds. The Halo universe holds every disadvantage, and will lose. That is ultimately the situation. There are two scenarios, in both of them Halo loses. That's it. There's nothing else to say, because it's all been said. There is nothing else to bring up, there are no new angles to play, this is the top of the pyramid for both sides. At present, Halo simply loses.[/quote] First of all, if B is chosen, only weak minded can have their mind controlled. And, the human fleet was not recently decimated, it just gained the enormous Infinity. The elites also have the covenant technology. Plus, as I mentioned before, the Halo Array would wipe out a good deal of Star Wars. While this happens, the human Ai, prometheans, watchers, sentinels (which include enforcers and larger), monitors, and crawlers would survive the blast. And the elites, humans, hunters, etc can all go into the shield world while Halo fires. Humans also have access to forerunner technology so they still have the power of forerunners. The flood is still around actually. There are the flood containment facilities all over the galaxy, the containment facilities on the six remaining rings and some on the Ark. Also, using the force to find out Halo's plans are not that simple. If it was, they would have found out the plans of the separatists or the empire from the start.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 standard forerunner fleets can destroy entire star systems. Anyone saying that starwars is more powerful is a fanboy. [/quote] So can Star Wars. Sorry you didn't get the info, but there's a ship known as the Sun Crusher, that is invincible and made out of pure ROFLTECH.[/quote] That is one ship, with a limited ammo supply of its sun destroying missiles, being compared to a civilization with more starships than there are planets in the Wars verse, each capable destroying a star and vaporizing a solar system. Did you happen to read that long post on the Forerunner feat thread I linked? A throwaway proof-of-concept project that ultimately ended up getting canned by the Forerunner leaders constructed the surface area of Death Star II every 5 minutes for 8,000 years. And that's not even talking about their trillions-strong automated defense fleets.[/quote] Let's see, for organic targets there's [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Electromagnetic_torpedo]this[/url] puppy, which is like a souped up Halo array concentrated. Although if more the material was acquired, it could be theoretically detonated on a massive scale. And of course there's the Sun Crusher, which would be theoretically be made more of in a time of war. Just depends how the coexisting republics and empires would feel about it. There's also the Sovereign-class dreadnoughts, Eclipse-Class Dreadnoughts, World Devastators, Mass Shadow Generator, and other ships and weapons that are capable of destroying planets extremely quickly. But of course, the problem boils down to a lack of information on the Celestials, or what came before them, the Force Demons. All we know is that they were likely immortal or ended up immortal.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 standard forerunner fleets can destroy entire star systems. Anyone saying that starwars is more powerful is a fanboy. [/quote] So can Star Wars. Sorry you didn't get the info, but there's a ship known as the Sun Crusher, that is invincible and made out of pure ROFLTECH.[/quote] That is one ship, with a limited ammo supply of its sun destroying missiles, being compared to a civilization with more starships than there are planets in the Wars verse, each capable destroying a star and vaporizing a solar system. Did you happen to read that long post on the Forerunner feat thread I linked? A throwaway proof-of-concept project that ultimately ended up getting canned by the Forerunner leaders constructed the surface area of Death Star II every 5 minutes for 8,000 years. And that's not even talking about their trillions-strong automated defense fleets.[/quote] Well, theoretically, anyone who can create a Force Storm can destroy a star. I think Force Storms are artificial wormholes and are also artificial gravitic anomalies. A force storm anywhere near a star would destabilize the equilibrium of its reactions

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 standard forerunner fleets can destroy entire star systems. Anyone saying that starwars is more powerful is a fanboy. [/quote] So can Star Wars. Sorry you didn't get the info, but there's a ship known as the Sun Crusher, that is invincible and made out of pure ROFLTECH.[/quote] That is one ship, with a limited ammo supply of its sun destroying missiles, being compared to a civilization with more starships than there are planets in the Wars verse, each capable destroying a star and vaporizing a solar system. Did you happen to read that long post on the Forerunner feat thread I linked? A throwaway proof-of-concept project that ultimately ended up getting canned by the Forerunner leaders constructed the surface area of Death Star II every 5 minutes for 8,000 years. And that's not even talking about their trillions-strong automated defense fleets. [Edited on 10.15.2012 7:16 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mastesargent I'm lovin' that poll. OT: Halo. Sar Wars' shields aren't designed to block solid matter. One salvo from the Pillar of Autumn would destroy the Executor.[/quote]Again, all Star Wars capital ships have shields that block both energy weapons and physical objects. The Executor survived three Star Destroyers crashing into it after they dropped out of hyperspace. Only fighters are fitted with just anti-energy shields. The Executor would take a MAC blast and laugh, before destroying an entire UNSC fleet in a hail of turbolaser, ion cannon, and proton torpedo fire. Again, Halo only wins because the Forerunners and Precursors are so damned OP. If they weren't in the picture, Star Wars would wipe out the Covenant and UNSC in about a week.[/quote] COUGHOPSITHCOUGH[/quote]Lol, I'm just looking at strictly numbers and tech. I know that there are Sith that can drain the life force of entire planets just for fun.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CND AAA Beef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mastesargent I'm lovin' that poll. OT: Halo. Sar Wars' shields aren't designed to block solid matter. One salvo from the Pillar of Autumn would destroy the Executor.[/quote]Again, all Star Wars capital ships have shields that block both energy weapons and physical objects. The Executor survived three Star Destroyers crashing into it after they dropped out of hyperspace. Only fighters are fitted with just anti-energy shields. The Executor would take a MAC blast and laugh, before destroying an entire UNSC fleet in a hail of turbolaser, ion cannon, and proton torpedo fire. Again, Halo only wins because the Forerunners and Precursors are so damned OP. If they weren't in the picture, Star Wars would wipe out the Covenant and UNSC in about a week.[/quote] COUGHOPSITHCOUGH

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mastesargent I'm lovin' that poll. OT: Halo. Sar Wars' shields aren't designed to block solid matter. One salvo from the Pillar of Autumn would destroy the Executor.[/quote]Again, all Star Wars capital ships have shields that block both energy weapons and physical objects. The Executor survived three Star Destroyers crashing into it after they dropped out of hyperspace. Only fighters are fitted with just anti-energy shields. The Executor would take a MAC blast and laugh, before destroying an entire UNSC fleet in a hail of turbolaser, ion cannon, and proton torpedo fire. Again, Halo only wins because the Forerunners and Precursors are so damned OP. If they weren't in the picture, Star Wars would wipe out the Covenant and UNSC in about a week.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 standard forerunner fleets can destroy entire star systems. Anyone saying that starwars is more powerful is a fanboy. [/quote] So can Star Wars. Sorry you didn't get the info, but there's a ship known as the Sun Crusher, that is invincible and made out of pure ROFLTECH.

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  • standard forerunner fleets can destroy entire star systems. Anyone saying that starwars is more powerful is a fanboy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] catman6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle![/quote] Han Solo. Kyle Katarn. Lando HK-47 Boba Fett Mace Windu Your argument is invalid.[/quote] >implying that any of those are more bad ass than Johnson[/quote]Han Solo has more badassery in his left pinky nail, than 2*10^400 Johnsons[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] catman6 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle![/quote] Han Solo. Kyle Katarn. Lando HK-47 Boba Fett Mace Windu Your argument is invalid.[/quote] >implying that any of those are more bad ass than Johnson[/quote]Han Solo has more badassery in his left pinky nail, than 2*10^400 Johnsons[/quote] Han Solo is mother-blam!- Han Solo, the posterboy for badass Space Pirates. Johnson is just a ripoff of that dude from ALIENS.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle![/quote] Han Solo. Kyle Katarn. Lando HK-47 Boba Fett Mace Windu Your argument is invalid.[/quote] >implying that any of those are more bad ass than Johnson[/quote]Han Solo has more badassery in his left pinky nail, than 2*10^400 Johnsons

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle![/quote] Han Solo. Kyle Katarn. Lando HK-47 Boba Fett Mace Windu Your argument is invalid.[/quote] >implying that any of those are more bad ass than Johnson

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle![/quote] Han Solo. Kyle Katarn. Lando HK-47 Boba Fett Mace Windu Your argument is invalid.

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