@Wyzilla Congratulations. You just won an internet fight. *Claps*

I look at it this way, A single Halo can wipe large portions of a galaxy clean of sentient life. To my knowledge there isn't anything in the Star Wars uni that can do that.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.[/quote]>Everyone goes into shield worlds >Sentinals activate Halo Array two times >Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.[/quote] I don't think you'd understand the point that they'd be immune to the halo array, because when they turn into a void, their body implodes and their form is only their will. They're like Nazgul, only one could clean through an entire fleet in a few seconds. And again, hyperspace, plus the Celestials, which would simply influence events or even have a direct intervention. For all we know, they could cause the Halo Array to immediately explode.[/quote]>Sends anything left into eternal Slipspace[/quote] For -blam!-'s sake, are you retarded? They are [i]deities[/i]. As in god-like beings. Think Cthulhu. Yahweh. Allah. They aren't made of matter, or energy. They are made purely 'of' the force because they [i]are[/i] the force. It'd be like trying to destroy the Q Continuum. They're Omnipotent. Being masters of the force, they could influence events so that when the Halo Arrays are fired, their fuel source detonates and wipes out everyone on the Ark. You aren't fighting a race. You're fighting [i]Gods[/i]. Actual Gods. Ones that [i]can't die, be banished, or harmed in any way.[/i] The minute all life in Star Wars is wiped out, they cause a civil war, or simply plant new life and accelerate it. They're above tier 0. Same with the Chaos Demons that came before the Celestials and simply vanished. Indestructible creatures that even if their universe was destroyed, would simply seep into another and take over. This is why you can only have Star Wars fight Warhammer, Doctor Who, and Star Trek (although with ST, all the races would be destroyed and only the Q would remain.) All four have actual omnipotent indestructible deities which can mind-blam!- the pathetic creatures. To the Celestials and Chaos Demons, the Precursors would look like [i]ants[/i].

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mojeda101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.[/quote]>Everyone goes into shield worlds >Sentinals activate Halo Array two times >Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.[/quote]Droid armies active protocol and take over the fleet. Cloning commences, and an army of a few quintillion is done in a weeks time with the Thrawn method. [/quote]"Forerunner AI's and UNSC smart AI's can hack into systems without physical contact,this is something Star Wars never encountered before.Cortana was able to hack a 128000 bit molulating key,someone at spacebattles explains how impressive it is: To put it in perspective, a 128,000 bit encryption is 6.919e+38,531 potential combinations. To crack it, she would have to come up with a statistically significant portion of the potential combinations in order to do it. Worse, the encryption was modulating, which means it probably chnaged a few times while she was attempting to crack it. Nattuo: So she can probably process about the amount of information represented by the total combination count in only a couple of seconds. To put this amount of information in persepective if it took Cortana a trillion years to crack the combination, and she got lucky and did it after only accounting for a millionth of the potential combinations(and it did not modulate at any point) she'd be able to simulate the position, vector and other properties of every atom in our universe(assuming there are 10^90 atoms, and each required a magabit a second to simulate) 2.2*10^38,410 times. To put that in more recognisable numbers It's simulating so many trillions of universes, that even stacking the orders of magnitude end on end(a trillion trillion being 10^24) you'd need to repeat the word trillion about 3,200 times to account for all the orders of magnitude. That's a tillion trillion ... 3,197 more "trillion"s .... trillion universes simulated simultaneously in real time. Yet this AI is easily dwarved by a monitor.Let alone the higher ancillas and metarch,let's not even mention a contender."

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.[/quote]>Everyone goes into shield worlds >Sentinals activate Halo Array two times >Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.[/quote] I don't think you'd understand the point that they'd be immune to the halo array, because when they turn into a void, their body implodes and their form is only their will. They're like Nazgul, only one could clean through an entire fleet in a few seconds. And again, hyperspace, plus the Celestials, which would simply influence events or even have a direct intervention. For all we know, they could cause the Halo Array to immediately explode.[/quote]>Sends anything left into eternal Slipspace

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.[/quote]>Everyone goes into shield worlds >Sentinals activate Halo Array two times >Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.[/quote]Droid armies active protocol and take over the fleet. Cloning commences, and an army of a few quintillion is done in a weeks time with the Thrawn method. [Edited on 10.17.2012 5:57 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.[/quote]>Everyone goes into shield worlds >Sentinals activate Halo Array two times >Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.[/quote] I don't think you'd understand the point that they'd be immune to the halo array, because when they turn into a void, their body implodes and their form is only their will. They're like Nazgul, only one could clean through an entire fleet in a few seconds. And again, hyperspace, plus the Celestials, which would simply influence events or even have a direct intervention. For all we know, they could cause the Halo Array to immediately explode.

Star Wars would win but the Flood can infect technology. See High Charity, Cortana, and 2401 Penitent Tangent for more details.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Caragnafog dog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MongotheRed [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Caragnafog dog this thread continues to be ridiculous. halo nerds step back, they have no chance vs star wars[/quote] I lol'd at this.[/quote]I lol'd at you. Halo lore is not only uninteresting, it pales in comparison to the scale and power of basically anything star wars.[/quote] It's funny because you are telling fanboys to go away, when you are a fanboy too. And the amount of interest that should be given to either side is based off of your opinions. It is your opinion that the star wars universe is more interesting, which means that your "interest" argument cannot be used as any type of indicator of superiority.

Base Delta Zero Takes a SINGLE star destroyer less than a day to destroy(make it worthless) a planet doing double duty bombardments. Takes the Covenant fleet years.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night.[/quote]>Everyone goes into shield worlds >Sentinals activate Halo Array two times >Everyone comes out to finish off the rest of the Star Wars universe.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 -snip-[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus#Powers_and_abilities]Darth Nihilus can kill entire planets instantly.[/url] I've stated this many times before. And no, the Halo guys would be touched by the force, they only couldn't use it. Only the Vong and the Voids are untouched by the Force. And every superweapon the Halo universe would use would run the risk of creating [i]more[/i] wounds, which can only be destroyed by force wielders and lack a physical body, the Halo Arrays would have zero affect. Every time you'd use a superweapon, so long as one miserable force sensitive survived and was emotionally crushed, good night. [Edited on 10.17.2012 5:49 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] -snip- [/quote] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_trick A powerful Dark Lord of the Sith or a powerful Jedi Master could likely do such in a ship-to-ship battle, or simply take a prisoner. Also, I forgot about force corrupt. The Sith could simply mind-blam!- the UNSC and Covenant forces to their side temporarily, creating mass chaos. Just jack the Spartans and sit back during a fight against UNSC and Covie forces. Hell, they could probably use it against AI too.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MongotheRed [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Caragnafog dog this thread continues to be ridiculous. halo nerds step back, they have no chance vs star wars[/quote] I lol'd at this.[/quote]I lol'd at you. Halo lore is not only uninteresting, it pales in comparison to the scale and power of basically anything star wars.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote]A single Forerunner fortress destroyed a ring of 30000 km with Brute strenght,said ring was protected by shields of hard lights,yet it was so easily penetrated by the massive firepower. The POA reacor created a huge explosion(watch Halo 2 opening),it's 5 times larger then the rings width. Ring width=1000 km Explosion=5000 km The SD calculator put's this at 10 petaton,but i assumed 04 was 30000 km too.So let's use the 10000 km number,that will put it at 200 teraton. So we have 200 teraton-10 petaton figure for the Poa destruction yield,but i would prefer the 30000 km numbers because it's most likely a retcon. Here are the links to the SD calculator: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html If you observe the fireball it's five times the size of the width.Now it's debatable if this ring is 10000 km or 30000 km,but newer sources do support the latter. Pg 66 Evolutions volume II: Closer in:the wreckage of the Halo.The massive ring cut through the view like a question mark that'd been fractured to pieces .Thousands of kilometers. Quote confirms it,there is no doubt that all rings have a diamter of 30000 km. Fireball was around 5000 km,and the SD calculator(above) puts it around 10 petaton. Conclusion:Pillar of autumns explosion was around 10 petaton.Now the evidence that the Forerunner weapon was more powerful then the autumn: As the cruise's fusion drives went crutical,a compact sun blossomed on the surface of Halo.It's thermonuclear sphere carved a five kilometer crater into the superdense ring material and sent powerful pressure waves rippling throughout the structure.Both up and down spin of the explosion,the fireball flattened and sterilized the surface terrain.Within moments,the yellow-white core had consumed all of the available fuel,collapsed upon itself,and winked out. Still spinnig,but unable to withstand the forces exerted on this weak ponit,the ring structure slowly tore itself apart.Huge chucks of debris tumbled end over end out into space,as a five-hundred-kilometer long sections of the ring's world hull sliced through an even longer curve of brilliantly engineered metal,earth and water and produced a cascade of eerily silent explosion. All that 10 petaton explosion did was a 5 kilometer crater,the ring itself was still intact but because of the new weakpoint on that spot,it tore itself apart. Now the rings that were destroyed by Forerunner ships were just destroyed by brute strenght alone and not with the help of a weak point,it also did more damage then just a small crater. Halo cryptum pg 129 The first fortress's fighters moved in,surrounding one of the primed Halos and engaging its sentinels.Simultaneously,four cruisers sent white-hot beams to points around the targeted installation.Setninels intercepted some of those beams,partially deflecting them but also absorbing and sacrificing.Other beams struck home,carving canyonlike gouges across the mottled inner surface and blowing blue-white plumed of debris and plasma from the edges.The interior spokes began to shimmer and fade.The Halo could not hold together against this onslaught.It bent inward,wobbled.Fascinated,i watched as hge sections of the ring twisted like ribbon,giving away to destructive nodes of resonance,then rippled in sinus waves and separated with agonizing majesty Halo Cryptum pg 320 Even before it had emerged halfway,the fortress began to loose clouds of fighters-at this distancenthey resembled a puff of pollen from a flower-and fire it's weapons in a sequential radiance.The inner curve of the Halo,even protected by waves of hard light,could not stand up long to this assault from within it's own radius. The fortress's commanders and ancillas must have known they were dooming themself as well as the Halo.The installation began a spectacular disintegrative sequence.The visible half of the ring bent in opposite directions,then shattered into five great arc. Conclusion: 10 petaton is absolute lowest end for an average Forerunner ship.[/quote] [quote]"Forerunner AI's and UNSC smart AI's can hack into systems without physical contact,this is something Star Wars never encountered before.Cortana was able to hack a 128000 bit molulating key,someone at spacebattles explains how impressive it is: To put it in perspective, a 128,000 bit encryption is 6.919e+38,531 potential combinations. To crack it, she would have to come up with a statistically significant portion of the potential combinations in order to do it. Worse, the encryption was modulating, which means it probably chnaged a few times while she was attempting to crack it. Nattuo: So she can probably process about the amount of information represented by the total combination count in only a couple of seconds. To put this amount of information in persepective if it took Cortana a trillion years to crack the combination, and she got lucky and did it after only accounting for a millionth of the potential combinations(and it did not modulate at any point) she'd be able to simulate the position, vector and other properties of every atom in our universe(assuming there are 10^90 atoms, and each required a magabit a second to simulate) 2.2*10^38,410 times. To put that in more recognisable numbers It's simulating so many trillions of universes, that even stacking the orders of magnitude end on end(a trillion trillion being 10^24) you'd need to repeat the word trillion about 3,200 times to account for all the orders of magnitude. That's a tillion trillion ... 3,197 more "trillion"s .... trillion universes simulated simultaneously in real time. Yet this AI is easily dwarved by a monitor.Let alone the higher ancillas and metarch,let's not even mention a contender." [/quote] [quote]The Sentinels were deployed as a means of maintaining the Flood through surgical, localized tactics. The Forerunner fleet command even contemplated using naval battle groups to enact premature stellar collapse within compromised planetary systems, causing supernovae to engulf entire worlds.[/quote] [quote]The Dyson Sphere within a Shield World is two astronomical units, i.e. 300 million kilometers in diameter, and its inner surface is entirely terraformed and capable of supporting life. In the center is an artificial star. The inner Dyson Sphere resides within a Slipspace transit, accessible only from the Core Room Antechamber in the heart of the artificial planet formed around the structure. In normal space, the slipspace bubble is radically smaller than the interior, being only a few meters in diameter.[/quote] [quote]The Composer was a mysterious entity, possibly a Forerunner or a Forerunner machine, that had many capabilities, including the ability to extract the consciousness and memories of a sapient being. The Librarian employed the Composer when extracting the memories of the surviving human warriors after the Charum Hakkor campaign. The Lord of Admirals, supreme commander of all human forces and one of the humans to have their minds harvested, never saw the Composer directly and described its presence as "strange, ever-changing" and "multiformed", as it operated via Lifeworker machinery. The Composer was also capable of slowing down Flood infection and the subsequent loss of individuality. Some believed the Composer to be a "product of its own services"; a Forerunner, perhaps a Lifeworker, suspended in the final stages of Flood infection. According to Lifeworker Genemender Folder of Fortune, the Composer had once been "designed to save us all", which may have been referring to its ability to keep Flood infection in check. The Composer, or at least its handiwork, was present on Installation 07 around 100,000 BCE, where it was used by the Master Builder to stave off Flood infection in certain Forerunners to keep them in a docile state. This was accomplished through a form of harness which prevented the infectees' decaying bodies from breaking down. By that time, the Composer appeared to be a closely-guarded secret known only to few, as a Lifeworker monitor on Installation 07 did not have any information pertaining to it in its memory.[/quote] [quote]Forerunner spacecraft used special crystals embedded in their slipspace drives to travel through slipspace. In order to move through ordinary space, they utilized a reaction drive which harnessed virtual particles as a propulsive force. In addition, the Forerunners created a network of slipspace portals for high-traffic slipspace transit across the galaxy. Aboard starships, limited inertial dampening was achieved through the use of buffer fields, but during extreme acceleration, the occupants' armors had to be locked to the deck. The interiors of all Forerunner ships were not entirely composed of matter; for example, the structure of a planet-breaker was only half matter, with one third being fuel and reaction mass and the rest being comprised of hard light, allowing the captain to configure the ship's internal layout and decoration at will. At least some types of Forerunner craft can alter their geometry to better suit their current situation; for example, making the ship more aerodynamic in preparation for surface landing.[/quote] [quote]The Onyx Sentinels also have the ability to combine for different purposes, such as exponentially increasing their combat capabilities, or for large-scale excavation. One formation of these combined Sentinels was able to easily destroy two Covenant destroyers. However, it should be noted that the second Covenant Destroyer was caught off guard after a Slipspace jump, and the first one had its energy shields down in a gesture of peace, trying to initiate contact with the Forerunner constructs[/quote][/quote]

Op should just make a poll. and the first universe to 250 votes is the winner. or have a time set for voting.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaneXX12 First of all, if B is chosen,[/quote]These are not arguable propositions. As I'll show you now, they've already taken every argument into account. The A and B proposition outcomes are ends, after having considered all arguments. For educational purposes I will show you: [quote]only weak minded can have their mind controlled.[/quote]Which is vast amounts, every Grunt, Jackal, most Brutes, most humans in UNSC. Internal sabotage by the majority of players.[quote] And, the human fleet was not recently decimated, it just gained the enormous Infinity.[/quote]Which will also have all of those controllable minds aboard it and UNSC ships are laughably underpowered compared to Star Wars ships.[quote] The elites also have the covenant technology.[/quote]Which is also weaker.[quote] Plus, as I mentioned before, the Halo Array would wipe out a good deal of Star Wars.[/quote]The Ark was destroyed which makes firing them difficult, not that it matters since the Rings are no concern anyway. The Star Wars fleets can escape in hyperspace as the Halo fleets do in slipspace.[quote] While this happens, the human Ai, prometheans, watchers, sentinels (which include enforcers and larger), monitors, and crawlers would survive the blast.[/quote]And so too would the Star Forge which is the foil to all of those.[quote] And the elites, humans, hunters, etc can all go into the shield world while Halo fires.[/quote]Good on'em, the Star Wars fleets escape to hyper space.[quote] Humans also have access to forerunner technology so they still have the power of forerunners.[/quote]What Forerunner tech? The Rings? That's about all there is right now. [quote]The flood is still around actually. There are the flood containment facilities all over the galaxy, the containment facilities on the six remaining rings and some on the Ark.[/quote]None of which are released and none of their locations are known to anyone currently in the Haloverse.[quote]Also, using the force to find out Halo's plans are not that simple. If it was, they would have found out the plans of the separatists or the empire from the start.[/quote]They had the Dark Side to cloud their plans, Dar5th Sidious weakened the clairvoyancy of the Jedi to hide his plot. Halo has no such powers. The A and B scenario explanations are and End. They take everything into account and produce the final victor. When new canon is released, they are adjusted accordingly. They are absolute.[/quote] This. And don't forget that the Sith and Jedi would be [i]united[/i]. It would be shaky, but damn, that's just a recipee for absolute murder. Simply look at what Revan and his rag-tag group of rogues did when they adopted some dark side tactics. Now imagine the Sith, the Cults, the Acolytes, the Dark Jedi, and the Jedi all uniting. That force alone could clear through both the UNSC and Covenant fleets with minimal force. Star Wars uses magic. Magic tends to -blam!-slap hard future tech.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Caragnafog dog this thread continues to be ridiculous. halo nerds step back, they have no chance vs star wars[/quote] I lol'd at this. [Edited on 10.17.2012 5:40 PM PDT]

quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mzone7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ash Kehtchum Using slip space drive launchers equipped with the latest forerunner advancements they launch nova bombs into slipspace and have them drop out of slipspace inside the star wars ships. Any ship not bigger than a planet is instantly obliterated. What now -blam!-es? [/quote] Like I said earlier, they just enter hyperspace and chill on a trip away from the area. Alternate dimension that Halo doesn't know how to enter or attack at all. Oh, and Star Wars ships could resist those easily. Star Wars already uses nukes in their missiles, and they can have trouble getting through shields. Star Wars shields are exceptionally strong, and the planetary shield generators alone could hold off a glassing, nukes, or anything else. Again, only ONE Star Destroyer is needed to destroy a planet in a day. Just one. And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i]. The shields of Star Wars ships are too strong, and all that's needed is a Sith Lord to wipe out a fleet. Palpatine alone could take out an entire fleet, be it flood, forerunner, precursor, UNSC, or covie. [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_storm_%28wormhole%29]Force Storms[/url] It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look. Force Insanity is dangerous. There's also force powers that can vaporize entire groups of enemies. So if the Arbiter and the Chief attack with spartans, a Sith just stares at them and they are vaporized.[/quote] Just saying, but it is pretty hard for all you said to have happened when an array of 13 Halos destroys everything first. [/quote] As I said earlier, they just need to enter hyperspace and they'd survived unharmed. Then they simply show up and the front door of the halos and destroy them. Not to mention that the Sun Crusher's armor would likely be impervious to any assault, as it was actually invincible and could survive flying into a sun, without any special trick. Its armor was that strong, and it was armed with weapons that could destroy a solar system in one shot. And again, immortal deities, invincible undead sith, hive minds that work as a single force entity, etc. And the Vong would also be fighting on the side of the Star Wars guys, and they'd royally -blam!- over the Halo stuff. Like I've stated earlier. Halo tech looks like cute stuff next to Star Wars. Only Warhammer and Doctor Who could fight it.[/quote] But exactly HOW do they know those weapons even exist? From what I understand this whole clash of universe happens like it would in real life, no one knows what the enemy is like. Ergo, if your mighty Star Wars people crush the first wave of precursors and forerunners (Which I highly doubt) the remaining millions of Halo Forunners and such can activate the rings. The Star Wars guys would never see it coming. And even if the SW people attacked first, word could be sent back to those in control of the Halos and boom. Checkmate. Either way.[/quote] Force users can read minds.[/quote] Then why is it that no force users ever did this in the fiction? You never see a Jedi or Sith reading someone's mind from more than ground visual level, so reading a kind from a ship on a highly advanced race seems pretty impossible to me.

this thread continues to be ridiculous. halo nerds step back, they have no chance vs star wars

Precursors solo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaneXX12 First of all, if B is chosen,[/quote]These are not arguable propositions. As I'll show you now, they've already taken every argument into account. The A and B proposition outcomes are ends, after having considered all arguments. For educational purposes I will show you: [quote]only weak minded can have their mind controlled.[/quote]Which is vast amounts, every Grunt, Jackal, most Brutes, most humans in UNSC. Internal sabotage by the majority of players.[quote] And, the human fleet was not recently decimated, it just gained the enormous Infinity.[/quote]Which will also have all of those controllable minds aboard it and UNSC ships are laughably underpowered compared to Star Wars ships. And they were recently decimated, they're coming out of a war which eliminated the majority of the species.[quote] The elites also have the covenant technology.[/quote]Which is also weaker.[quote] Plus, as I mentioned before, the Halo Array would wipe out a good deal of Star Wars.[/quote]The Ark was destroyed which makes firing them difficult, not that it matters since the Rings are no concern anyway. The Star Wars fleets can escape in hyperspace as the Halo fleets do in slipspace.[quote] While this happens, the human Ai, prometheans, watchers, sentinels (which include enforcers and larger), monitors, and crawlers would survive the blast.[/quote]How many of those exist in the current Halo canon? Negligible amounts. Whereas Droids exist in abundance in Star Wars.[quote] And the elites, humans, hunters, etc can all go into the shield world while Halo fires.[/quote]Good on'em, the Star Wars fleets escape to hyper space.[quote] Humans also have access to forerunner technology so they still have the power of forerunners.[/quote]What Forerunner tech? The Rings? That's about all there is right now. [quote]The flood is still around actually. There are the flood containment facilities all over the galaxy, the containment facilities on the six remaining rings and some on the Ark.[/quote]None of which are released and none of their locations are known to anyone currently in the Haloverse.[quote]Also, using the force to find out Halo's plans are not that simple. If it was, they would have found out the plans of the separatists or the empire from the start.[/quote]They had the Dark Side to cloud their plans, Darth Sidious weakened the clairvoyancy of the Jedi to hide his plot. Halo has no such powers. The A and B scenario explanations are and End. They take everything into account and produce the final victor. When new canon is released, they are adjusted accordingly. They are absolute. [Edited on 10.17.2012 5:45 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaneXX12 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Carrier ...Yet its been proven that Forerunner ships are more powerful than Star Wars armadas.[/quote] Please, direct me to that post. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] shadow 2648 they also think that a star wars ship can take a hit from a supper mac and not take damage... Like i said. [/quote] Basic Star Destroyer shields can take a minumum of 6X10^19 joules as far as can be calculated, a super MAC delivers 2.16X10^20 joules. Quite possible that it would break the shielding. The standard MACs would be entirely useless. Anyway, to bring things to a close here, I'll re-illustrate why it is that the Haloverse will lose for you. First, choose which one of these universes you want to operate with: [quote]A) True Halo and Star Wars total universes: Everything to ever canonically exist in the respective universes is included in the battle.[/quote][quote]B) Latest representation of Halo and Star Wars universes: Everything which currently canonically exists at the latest chronological point in their universe.[/quote] If you choose A, then every Force user ever combines their power to rip the Halo fleets apart at the molecular level, create vast Force-lightning storms to destroy the fleets, create wormholes to swallow the fleets, use their own ships against them, or mind control the majority of them. All from a safe distance, simply sitting around in nice chairs. If you choose B, then the Halo troops have no Forerunner or Precursor, they have a recently decimated Covenant and UNSC, and no Flood to speak of. They then have to deal with the more powerful Star Wars forces knowing every action, every plan, every attack or defense they set up, before they even conceive of it. They will be playing a chess game with someone who can't just read their minds, but also see the future, and control many of their minds. The Halo universe holds every disadvantage, and will lose. That is ultimately the situation. There are two scenarios, in both of them Halo loses. That's it. There's nothing else to say, because it's all been said. There is nothing else to bring up, there are no new angles to play, this is the top of the pyramid for both sides. At present, Halo simply loses.[/quote] First of all, if B is chosen, only weak minded can have their mind controlled. And, the human fleet was not recently decimated, it just gained the enormous Infinity. The elites also have the covenant technology. Plus, as I mentioned before, the Halo Array would wipe out a good deal of Star Wars. While this happens, the human Ai, prometheans, watchers, sentinels (which include enforcers and larger), monitors, and crawlers would survive the blast. And the elites, humans, hunters, etc can all go into the shield world while Halo fires. Humans also have access to forerunner technology so they still have the power of forerunners. The flood is still around actually. There are the flood containment facilities all over the galaxy, the containment facilities on the six remaining rings and some on the Ark. Also, using the force to find out Halo's plans are not that simple. If it was, they would have found out the plans of the separatists or the empire from the start.[/quote] Star Wars would have millions of ships from the Old Republic, Sith Empires, Galactic Empire, New Republic, Imperial Fragments, Krayt Empire, Infinite Empire, Celestials, Chiss, oh, and don't forget the Mnggal Mnggal. It's like the flood, but is a single entity that can take over an entire planet and infect a population secretly. And the Infinity is a pathetic ship. The average basic Star Wars ships are a kilometer long if not more, and would ROFLSTOMP the Covie and Human fleets in a couple days. We're talking millions, if not billions of ships that would also have the Star Forge, which could pump out an infinite army of droids, super weapons, and all of the horrible biological weapons the empire has. In Star Wars, you have the ability to become the equivalent of a Daemon Prince in Warhammer and become one with the force. There's the Chaos Demons from the Dark Side as well, which are immortal, indestructible fiends that would wreak havoc constantly. And that's just the surface. There's the Unknown Regions left as well, from which LOLTECH hails. There's a race of lizardmen that power their ships with the souls of those they assimilate/enslave.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.[/quote] BS. Where is your source?[/quote]For Halo or Celestials?[/quote] Halo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.[/quote] BS. Where is your source?[/quote]For Halo or Celestials?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darth Ra 7365 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race [/quote] The Celestials.[/quote]At most, they can destroy entire Solar Systems. Halo universe can destroy entire universes.[/quote] BS. Where is your source?