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4/30/2012 8:58:58 PM
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Halo PC's Population: Seemingly Abysmal IQ Average

So... As many of you that have been around for a while have surely noticed, there seems to rarely be [i]any[/i] competent players on Halo: Combat Evolved PC these days. I'm sure there are more in private servers but I don't even see that many populated private servers. Every single time I join a game I get a crazy k/d of something like 164/12. If there are any decent players (Compared to the other players) are there, they seem to call you out for using an aimbot even though you're missing 4/5 of your shots at them. What happened? I remember playing this back in 2009 and it wasn't this bad. It was [i]filled[/i] with great players back in 2004 - 2007, it decreased a bit somewhere during 2007 and now it's just absolutely terrible. Most the people who are playing just seem absolutely brain dead and I can't even name one game that I play that has players as brain dead as this. It just makes me hold my head in shame. A part of me wishes it was shut down just so people don't see how embarrassing 90% of the population is. What are your thoughts? Do you think I'm over exaggerating? Do you think they're not really that bad but it's Halo PC that's just "[i]Too hard[/i]"? Is Timmy still stuck in that well after all these months? [Edited on 04.30.2012 1:01 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dark Hunter21 I certainly don't remember it being this easy. I love how even now I can't shoot someone point black with a shotgun, but lead a triple kill with a sniper no problem.[/quote] THat's because all the kids have discovered this game, you can easily just use pistol and get mega killz.
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  • I certainly don't remember it being this easy. I love how even now I can't shoot someone point black with a shotgun, but lead a triple kill with a sniper no problem.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aj6627 I just muted my mike[/quote]Stop being so cruel to Mike, you monster.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK But it's different and it scares me![/quote] lawl And the only nationality/speakers of a language is the French, and only in Rainbow Six 3/Black Arrow on the original Xbox. Eventually I just muted my mike before joining one of their servers and they stopped kicking me. No other game have I had a similar problem with.
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  • But it's different and it scares me!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] brawl for jz Every time i go into a game I get players who don't speak English and wind up talking to nobody and getting kicked or something. [/quote]I know a lot of you are like this but I'd like to keep stuff like this to a minimum... Saying people are stupid just because they speak another language than English is extreme prejudice. That has nothing to do with how terrible of a player they are. I've played many good players in my day that did in fact speak Spanish.
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  • Every time i go into a game I get players who don't speak English and wind up talking to nobody and getting kicked or something.
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  • I actually thought about that too, Node... It's something that's obvious after playing for a while (It was to me) but I could see how people might just not be aware of it. Pretty interesting thought. :P
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] n357 I noticed that anywhere that wasn't KNFr, I was usually making a killing. I don't have great "spatial awareness" so I can't lead my shots as well as others, but I do know it has to be done. It really seems like most of the people shooting at me were not leading their shots. It's common knowledge for everyone here that you have to lead. That information is not in the manual, not indicated anywhere in the game, and isn't even that easy to find with a search engine. I believe a lot of players are doing poorly in HPC because they simply don't know to lead. Sorry if this is a dumb theory, but it's an impression I've had for a while now.[/quote] I think that's a good theory, node:)
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  • I noticed that anywhere that wasn't KNFr, I was usually making a killing. I don't have great "spatial awareness" so I can't lead my shots as well as others, but I do know it has to be done. It really seems like most of the people shooting at me were not leading their shots. It's common knowledge for everyone here that you have to lead. That information is not in the manual, not indicated anywhere in the game, and isn't even that easy to find with a search engine. I believe a lot of players are doing poorly in HPC because they simply don't know to lead. Sorry if this is a dumb theory, but it's an impression I've had for a while now. [Edited on 05.20.2012 3:12 AM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tietsword [url=http://www.google.com/]google[/url][/quote] You make a good point. [url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+is+Tietsword+so+stupid%3F]So I Googled.[/url] [Edited on 05.09.2012 7:08 PM PDT]
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  • [url=http://www.google.com/][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tietsword google[/quote][/url]Not sure if spam or wrong thread... [Edited on 05.11.2012 7:54 PM PDT]
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  • [url=http://www.google.com/]google[/url]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheeNocturnal I still stuck with Halo PC. There is still about 5% of player who still very skilled, myself included. I hate to say DusK, but you don't know what you're talking about. I appreciate the fact you posted your opinion, but not all of what you're saying is true. Halo PC was, indeed, good enough for every player to stick around.[/quote] Then why didn't they? Also, Tetris, there's no such thing as being "good" at H2V. Kind of a funny comparison.
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  • I still stuck with Halo PC. There is still about 5% of player who still very skilled, myself included. I hate to say DusK, but you don't know what you're talking about. I appreciate the fact you posted your opinion, but not all of what you're saying is true. Halo PC was, indeed, good enough for every player to stick around.
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  • I still play Halo PC. I'm really good at CTF, but it gets boring after a while because of the people who are horrible. It's sad to see Halo PC is dying a slow and painful death. No matter what, I will be always sticking with my Halo PC than Halo 2 Vista.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I RaveN I Riddle me this: why h2v's population is actually good.[/quote]I hate to burst your bubble but when talking about the same sort of public population, they're just as bad. It's just that there's far less of them and all the servers that would be private are public because they can't get enough members. It's also that way because of the "MLG" types that think Halo 2 is the greatest thing to ever grace gaming. That's why some of them still mess around in it. Even though of all I've said, there are still more skilled players playing Halo PC than Halo 2 Vista.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK The "why" is rather simple: All the good players moved on to better games.[/quote]So the reasoning is "Halo PC wasn't good enough for good players to stick around."?[/quote] Yeah, pretty much.[/quote] Riddle me this: why h2v's population is actually good.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK Yeah, pretty much.[/quote]Yeah. That does actually make sense... I was thinking that was the case but I was hoping for something better than that. :/ I think I've always had a deep desire for Halo PC to be better than it really is.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK The "why" is rather simple: All the good players moved on to better games.[/quote]So the reasoning is "Halo PC wasn't good enough for good players to stick around."?[/quote] Yeah, pretty much.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx This thread is NOT unapproachable. DusK clearly approached it correctly! The point of the thread is to discuss why. In fact, many people before you came in to give opinions that have something to do with it. You're seemingly the only one that feels this way here.[/quote] That's why I said arguable. [quote]Are you trying to say you weren't being trivial but you were just spamming? By what you said I'm assuming you are saying you were just spamming. You were being an annoying prick by demeaning what I want to discuss. I'm actually trying to discuss something further than what's normally discussed here and [b]you act like you're above that nonsense[/b].[/quote] Yes to the first part, no to the second part.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 Caaaaalm down. You're right about me being a moron for posting what I posted. And I know you aren't asking just about "that random guy." I was just giving an example of how pointless and unapproachable this thread is (arguable, considering it will and has created sub-topic discussion).[/quote]This thread is NOT unapproachable. DusK clearly approached it correctly! The point of the thread is to discuss why. In fact, many people before you came in to give opinions that have something to do with it. You're seemingly the only one that feels this way here. [quote]And Syx, there's a difference between spamming and being trivial. Being trivial would have some degree of relevance, whereas spamming does not. Sorry to have frustrated you, I guess :/[/quote]Are you trying to say you weren't being trivial but you were just spamming? By what you said I'm assuming you are saying you were just spamming. You were being an annoying prick by demeaning what I want to discuss. I'm actually trying to discuss something further than what's normally discussed here and you act like you're above that nonsense. [Edited on 05.06.2012 6:42 PM PDT]
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  • Caaaaalm down. You're right about me being a moron for posting what I posted. And I know you aren't asking just about "that random guy." I was just giving an example of how pointless and unapproachable this thread is (arguable, considering it will and has created sub-topic discussion). And Syx, there's a difference between spamming and being trivial. Being trivial would have some degree of relevance, whereas spamming does not. Sorry to have frustrated you, I guess :/ By the way, I will probably be going "away" for some time, as Diablo 3's release continues to get closer and closer. So . . . excited!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DusK The "why" is rather simple: All the good players moved on to better games.[/quote]So the reasoning is "Halo PC wasn't good enough for good players to stick around."?
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  • The "why" is rather simple: All the good players moved on to better games.
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  • Yes it's on the same sort of topic. There's not much to talk about here anymore. If you don't like the conversation, [i]leave[/i]. It's beyond moronic to invade a thread to -blam!- about how you don't want to talk about this stuff. If you don't want to, get out. I'm not just asking why some random guy isn't good. I'm wanting to discuss what the possible reasons are for why Halo is filled with less skilled players whereas other games like Unreal Tournament, Quake III Arena, Tribes (Older ones), Counter-Strike, and so on are filled with people who know the game inside/out. It's a simple topic of discussion that absolutely no one here seems to be getting at. Everyone just wants to either say I'm right about it, I'm wrong about it or complain that I'm "complaining" about it. You're being extremely hypocritical, Ben. You're actually calling me out for being trivial when you're putting effort into saying we ought not try to discuss things in an online gaming forum. Why don't you just... You know... Go away? Nothing against you; It's just that if you don't want to be a part of this sort of discussion then don't be a part of it. No one is strapping you down to a chair to sit here and discuss this. Spread your little wings and fly to another discussion that you'd like to have. If you can't find one, create one. ___________________________________ By the way... I'm not sure but I don't think this has ever been made into an actual thread. I don't recall in the last 2 years that I've been active in this forum that someone has actually made a thread talking about the average Halo PC player seeming to be worse than most other games. We've made post in other threads where people ask how the game is doing about it but I don't think there's ever been a thread dedicated to it. [Edited on 05.06.2012 3:53 PM PDT]
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