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12/29/2011 2:00:50 AM
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CE isnt a classic because its good

Its a classic because at the time, it was the first of its kind, and no one had seen anything like it. It revolutionarised gaming. People were amazed. But now, ten years later, you lok a it and realise ifs a pretty crap game The only reason people still say they love it is because they loved it at the time and refuse to let go, and refuse to let newer games in. Thats why theres so much hate for Reach IMO. And i think Bungie knew this. They knew no one had seen anything like it, and they would be so blown away by it that they woulldnt realise how crappy a game it was. They didnt have to make it good. They could have easily made it to the quality of Halo 2 or Halo 3. These two games are great because bungie realised people would expect more. I know i said i'd leave you guys alone, but i had to get this off my chest. Now to prepare for the armies of evil nostalogic people (sorry been playing too much Oblivion) And any typos in thispost are down to this crappy iPad, not me

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy Yes. Halo 2 is fantasic. How the hell can you even still see anything good in CE?[/quote]agreed, Halo 2 is more [i]fatasic[/i] then Halo: Combat Evolved ever will be[/quote]It's more fatal, that's for sure. CE is vastly superior to all Halos. It's the only game that I haven't been disappointed with during my setups.[/quote] Eh, fatasic?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy Yes. Halo 2 is fantasic. How the hell can you even still see anything good in CE?[/quote]agreed, Halo 2 is more [i]fatasic[/i] then Halo: Combat Evolved ever will be[/quote]It's more fatal, that's for sure. CE is vastly superior to all Halos. It's the only game that I haven't been disappointed with during my setups.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy Yes. Halo 2 is fantasic. How the hell can you even still see anything good in CE?[/quote]agreed, Halo 2 is more [i]fatasic[/i] then Halo: Combat Evolved ever will be

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  • Although there is one thing that Halo 2 seriously needs a fix on: [b]no lunging at enemies that are behind walls or objects like supply cases[/b]. I don't care about the ridiculous lunge. It's the freaking goddamn fact that I can't move scenery items around without lunging at the enemy behind them that makes me think twice about Halo 2.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz PS Halo 2 Vista is a piece of sh1t. [/quote]Fixed. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz 1) Linear, labyrinthine gameplay What happened to the huge battlefields of Halo CE? The largest play space in the game was in Quarantine Zone, and that doesn't even begin to compare with the vast landscapes of AOTCR, Two Betrayals, and the level "Halo".[/quote]Same thing with Halo 3 and Reach. I don't really have a qualm about linear gameplay if the encounters are interesting (a la bomb room battle, Gravemind mausoleum battle). The [b]real problem[/b] is the lack of cps. They were so abundant in CE, with infinite cps being on Halo, AotCR, and Silent Cartographer. Now the only way to get them is to play linear. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz 2) Garbage feeling weapons Halo CE's weapon sandbox was pretty much perfect. Each weapon had it's own purpose, and felt completely different to other weapons. There were no redundant weapons, and the plasma weapons had this really cool feel to them (Which was in part due to the look of the CE shield indicators ). Halo 2? The only weapon I really enjoyed using was the Battle Rifle. Every other weapon felt bland and unenjoyable to me.[/quote]I felt Covenant weaponry were less enjoyable. The plasma pistol's overcharge time is severely nerfed as well as the plasma pistol's bolt damage. The plasma rifle is underpowered unless dual wielded. The fuel rod gun's reload time gets on my nerves and it's autoaim drives me nuts. But the Covie weapons that stick out as interesting/fun weapons are: Carbine, Needler, Energy Sword, Beam Rifle. Thankfully, H2 modding is easily accessible so I can easily mod the plasma pistol and plasma rifle and restore them to their CE versions. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz 3) Humanizing the aliens, destroying the Halo CE feel You want to know what Halo CE reminded me of? The fantastic movie "Aliens". The entrance of the creepy Flood which we knew nothing about, the menacing elites, and the alien environments. What did Halo 2 do? It decided to give the Covenant personalities, and make the Flood fracking poetic. I don't mind giving the Covenant intelligence, but at least make them retain their native growls in combat. And the Flood is supposed to be this mysterious, virulent life form that the player encounters in deep space. The Gravemind speaking english pretty much ended that for me. I could go on and on about the specifics of game mechanics and sandbox balance, but I feel I've made my point. [/quote]Well it's too late now. Chances are likely that H4 will have some of the same things as the novels are related to it. Elites not speaking English is still possible though and would make for interesting gameplay, as long as there's subtitles (for temporarily scripted encounters i.e. Zealot gives orders to troops by pointing them to positions). [Edited on 01.11.2012 6:03 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz PS Halo 2 is a piece of sh1t. [/quote]we'll decide who the retard is[/quote] Yes. Halo 2 is fantasic. How the hell can you even still see anything good in CE?[/quote]How the hell can you still see anything good in Halo 2? It's monotonous and combat isn't fun. Even multiplayer is bad. It's "if you shoot first you win".

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz PS Halo 2 is a piece of sh1t. [/quote]we'll decide who the retard is[/quote] Yes. Halo 2 is fantasic. How the hell can you even still see anything good in CE?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz PS Halo 2 is a piece of sh1t. [/quote]we'll decide who the retard is

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I RaveN I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy But i will also go and play my good, under scripted good rated game Halo 2.[/quote] lolwat. Even as an h2v fanboy, I admit h2 campaign sucks.[/quote] Halo 2 campaign was by far the worst of the series. 1) Linear, labyrinthine gameplay What happened to the huge battlefields of Halo CE? The largest play space in the game was in Quarantine Zone, and that doesn't even begin to compare with the vast landscapes of AOTCR, Two Betrayals, and the level "Halo". 2) Garbage feeling weapons Halo CE's weapon sandbox was pretty much perfect. Each weapon had it's own purpose, and felt completely different to other weapons. There were no redundant weapons, and the plasma weapons had this really cool feel to them (Which was in part due to the look of the CE shield indicators ). Halo 2? The only weapon I really enjoyed using was the Battle Rifle. Every other weapon felt bland and unenjoyable to me. 3) Humanizing the aliens, destroying the Halo CE feel You want to know what Halo CE reminded me of? The fantastic movie "Aliens". The entrance of the creepy Flood which we knew nothing about, the menacing elites, and the alien environments. What did Halo 2 do? It decided to give the Covenant personalities, and make the Flood fracking poetic. I don't mind giving the Covenant intelligence, but at least make them retain their native growls in combat. And the Flood is supposed to be this mysterious, virulent life form that the player encounters in deep space. The Gravemind speaking english pretty much ended that for me. I could go on and on about the specifics of game mechanics and sandbox balance, but I feel I've made my point.

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  • I wish I could explain to you how wrong you are. How TERRIBLY wrong you really are. You and everey other retard who thinks that CE fans are just fans because of nostalgia. PS Halo 2 is a piece of sh1t.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 Yup, as I said, it's impossible to take you seriously... -_-[/quote]

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  • It means not doing something. Specifically in this case, not doing a boy on a cott.

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  • i love you all : ) Mark V Guy does like to whine about alot of things dont know what boycott means :S

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  • hopefully in a good ironic way that meant you all love me. edit: ohfuuuuuck my boycott. [Edited on 01.06.2012 9:25 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I RaveN I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy My most memorable are Dubstep is a cacophonous catastrophe Move over to the Halocharts forums I just sold Halo 2 Halo 3 was MUCH easier (120+replies i think) Grenades should be optional A few others i cant remember[/quote] so you like to whine a lot. we already knew that.[/quote]^ thanks for that reply raven, it made me rofl

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k wow, this actually became a hot topic. didn't expect anything Mark V Guy makes to get more then 50 replies[/quote] Ive had a lot actually My most memorable are Dubstep is a cacophonous catastrophe Move over to the Halocharts forums I just sold Halo 2 Halo 3 was MUCH easier (120+replies i think) Grenades should be optional A few others i cant remember[/quote] so you like to whine a lot. we already knew that. instigating a boycott on Mark V topics.

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  • My best thread is more than 2 years old and has 1,566 replies. And is still up.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] path1k wow, this actually became a hot topic. didn't expect anything Mark V Guy makes to get more then 50 replies[/quote] Ive had a lot actually My most memorable are Dubstep is a cacophonous catastrophe Move over to the Halocharts forums I just sold Halo 2 Halo 3 was MUCH easier (120+replies i think) Grenades should be optional A few others i cant remember

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  • wow, this actually became a hot topic. didn't expect anything Mark V Guy makes to get more then 50 replies

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the omega man117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] playkid It's even better than most new FPS that get released. Today it seems games focuses more on scripting, cutscenes, quicktime events and story, rather than making a game that is fun to play (dynamic gameplay).[/quote]It's even worse when the scripting is very noticeable. Every time Noble Team becomes inactive, somebody dies. In H2 and H3, although the AI went to their positions, they still had active AI so if you betrayed, they would kill you. In Reach, I can kill as many as I want and Noble Team won't do anything about it. Sure, in CE, on T&R, I can kill the marines at the beginning but they will eventually get out of their positions and attack me (IIRC).[/quote] Noble Team do turn against you, don't they?[/quote] Didn't you say you weren't posting here anymore? Go play your overrated, over-scripted, and unbalanced garbage of a game called MW3.[/quote] OK lol But i will also go and play my good, under scripted good rated game Halo 2.[/quote]Didn't you sell it for lunch money because you hated it?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy But i will also go and play my good, under scripted good rated game Halo 2.[/quote] lolwat. Even as an h2v fanboy, I admit h2 campaign sucks.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chief077 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy all the levels are mazes apart from the Library[/quote]This disturbs me.[/quote] Why? because it was the biggest maze of the CMP?[/quote]No, because 343 Guilty Spark is the only maze. The Library just has a bunch of dead ends and stuff. 343 is where that scary horror comes in. I mean there goes my freaking elevator. How the hell am I supposed to get back up there?! Hey another elevator. I wonder what this button does. What?! It's-it's going down?!! NNNNOOOOOOO!!!! Also, I get lost on that level so many times even today. So many doors!!![/quote] I know what you mean, yesterday i was wandering around in circles on 343 for quite a few minutes. lol

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the omega man117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] playkid It's even better than most new FPS that get released. Today it seems games focuses more on scripting, cutscenes, quicktime events and story, rather than making a game that is fun to play (dynamic gameplay).[/quote]It's even worse when the scripting is very noticeable. Every time Noble Team becomes inactive, somebody dies. In H2 and H3, although the AI went to their positions, they still had active AI so if you betrayed, they would kill you. In Reach, I can kill as many as I want and Noble Team won't do anything about it. Sure, in CE, on T&R, I can kill the marines at the beginning but they will eventually get out of their positions and attack me (IIRC).[/quote] Noble Team do turn against you, don't they?[/quote] Didn't you say you weren't posting here anymore? Go play your overrated, over-scripted, and unbalanced garbage of a game called MW3.[/quote] OK lol But i will also go and play my good, under scripted good rated game Halo 2.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mark V guy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] playkid It's even better than most new FPS that get released. Today it seems games focuses more on scripting, cutscenes, quicktime events and story, rather than making a game that is fun to play (dynamic gameplay).[/quote]It's even worse when the scripting is very noticeable. Every time Noble Team becomes inactive, somebody dies. In H2 and H3, although the AI went to their positions, they still had active AI so if you betrayed, they would kill you. In Reach, I can kill as many as I want and Noble Team won't do anything about it. Sure, in CE, on T&R, I can kill the marines at the beginning but they will eventually get out of their positions and attack me (IIRC).[/quote] Noble Team do turn against you, don't they?[/quote] Didn't you say you weren't posting here anymore? Go play your overrated, over-scripted, and unbalanced garbage of a game called MW3.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sliding Ghost [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] playkid It's even better than most new FPS that get released. Today it seems games focuses more on scripting, cutscenes, quicktime events and story, rather than making a game that is fun to play (dynamic gameplay).[/quote]It's even worse when the scripting is very noticeable. Every time Noble Team becomes inactive, somebody dies. In H2 and H3, although the AI went to their positions, they still had active AI so if you betrayed, they would kill you. In Reach, I can kill as many as I want and Noble Team won't do anything about it. Sure, in CE, on T&R, I can kill the marines at the beginning but they will eventually get out of their positions and attack me (IIRC).[/quote] Noble Team do turn against you, don't they?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] playkid It's even better than most new FPS that get released. Today it seems games focuses more on scripting, cutscenes, quicktime events and story, rather than making a game that is fun to play (dynamic gameplay).[/quote]It's even worse when the scripting is very noticeable. Every time Noble Team becomes inactive, somebody dies. In H2 and H3, although the AI went to their positions, they still had active AI so if you betrayed, they would kill you. In Reach, I can kill as many as I want and Noble Team won't do anything about it. Sure, in CE, on T&R, I can kill the marines at the beginning but they will eventually get out of their positions and attack me (IIRC). [Edited on 01.01.2012 11:40 PM PST]

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