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Website Idea: The Community Calendar!

[quote][b][u]WARNING:[/u][/b] Unfortunately I'm terrible at writing succinctly, so if you want the bare bones of the idea, you might want to skim a bit. Good luck! [b][u]Update:[/u][/b] The Bungie Scheduler was a terrible name, so I'm now calling it the Community Calendar. Don't think I'll update the OP quite yet to reflect the new terminology, I'm a bit lazy at the moment.[/quote] A couple of weeks back during a Community Ride Along, Deej asked everyone in our lobby if there was anything that Bungie could do in the future to help enable community get togethers like the Community Carnage. I didn't quite have an answer for him at the time, but after a lot of thought, I came up with a potential feature that I think would help make event planning and event advertising much simpler. Now I'm by no means an expert on hosting events so perhaps I don't quite have the same understanding that other community members might have, but in my mind, there are two large problems inhibiting widespread community activities in games. First and foremost, people are rather lazy. I might be in a dozen different groups, I might not visit the website often enough or for very long, and I probably don't have the time to click on each and every one of my private groups to see what's going on for that week. Our solution will need a way to cater to these people's lazyness and make as easy as possible for them to know what events are going on when. Second, event hosters can have trouble with advertising their events with the current tools they are given to work with. This goes hand in hand with the earlier problem: because lazy group members might not visit their groups often enough to even realize that there might be events going on, advertising events soley in your group isn't a reliable way to ensure both attendance and variety in attendees. You can try advertising in the classifieds, or if you have permission you can advertise in the Community Forum in an attempt to reach a wider variety of people, but even then, you're limited to whoever regularly visits that forum / sees the thread while it's live on the front page. Not to mention, such a model won't work if multiple groups want to advertise their events, as the main forums will quickly be flooded with advertisements and everyone will drown each other out. [quote][/quote] Now what if there was an option under "Private Groups" in the Profile Tab called "The Bungie Scheduler" which, when clicked, took me to a calendar page which displayed all upcoming events scheduled by every group that I'm a member of? As a lazy Bungie.net user, such a webpage would make it extremely easy for me to see what events are coming up and which ones I'd like to participate in. Not to mention, because users only have to go to one place to learn about upcoming events, it makes it much easier for groups to advertise their events to their own members. I made up a quick [url=http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/Hylebosaiden/BungieSchedulerMockup.jpg]Mockup[/url] of what the idea could look like, courtesy of Microsoft Office Outlook. To make this feature work properly, groups need the abillity to schedule official events. In general it would work much like Group News does at the moment, you could give certain security roles the abillity to Submit Events, Approve Events, Post Events Directly, and Edit Events. Once you create an event, you are given various fields to fill out. Obviously the event needs a name, description, a starting time and an expected ending time, but you should also be able to select what game / venue the event is taking place in. Obviously Bungie Titles should have more built in support than other games, but I'm sure we don't need much else other than a blank field to type in the name of the game and the optional abillity to divide signups into numerous subgroups (Red Team / Blue Team / Green Team / Substitutes, you get the idea). You should also be able to restrict who can view the event and who can sign up for the event, likely by security role, and you should also be able to select an option to post a thread in your group's forum about the event simultaneously as the event post is made. I imagine that it would also be useful for event organizers to delay the event signups to a different time than when the event was first posted. It would also be good if you could reserve specific slots in the event for certain people like hosts, recorders, celebrity guests, whatever. Once you submit the event, it will pop up simultaneously in the forum, in an "Event Feed" on the group's main page, and in each group member's Bungie Scheduler. Clicking on the event in the Bungie Scheduler will link to the entry in the Event Feed, which will optionally link to a discussion thread in the forum. Signing up should be as simple as clicking on a slot and filling in what gamertag you plan to use for the event. Security roles with the abillity to edit events will be able to approve or deny players from the event, in addition to opening up more slots if the event is more popular than people expected. To help promote your event to people who aren't members in your group (and therefore can't see your group's events in their Bungie Scheduler), it would be nice if we could tag our events with relevant keywords so that people using the Searchbar to Search for events that are open to the public. Perhaps we should also include a way for people who aren't members of any group to schedule their own events, in which case they will be relying entirely on the Search Bar / Classifieds forum to get people to their event. It would also be cool if the Bungie Scheduler was used alongside the Group Spotlight as a way to promote groups. From the Group Spotlight, you would be able to view a schedule of all visible events being hosted by the groups being featured for that week. If there was a way to notify groups that they were being featured in advance, they could plan a ton of events aimed towards the public for that week in an attempt to get fresh blood into the group. Naturally there are several problems with the idea. For example, "The Bungie Scheduler" is a terrible name that I came up with at midnight last night, a more sexy name would definitely be prudent. I also imagine that the Calendar would get rather clogged up if you're a member of 25 active groups that all want to schedule events in the same timeslot. It's a bit of a worse case scenario, but I think it's a formatting problem that needs to be tackled none the less. If you have any suggestions towards solving these problems, or if you see any other problems with the idea, don't hesitate to tell me. So what do you guys think? As a group leader, would you take advantage of this scheduler to plan Community Events? What sort of features would you specifically want to get the most out of your events? And as a community member, would you regularly visit the Bungie Scheduler? Is there anything that can be done to help simplify the use of this feature? [Edited on 12.25.2011 7:53 PM PST]
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  • Nice idea! I like it.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ctjl96 I have Facebook texts sent to my phone whenever I get notifications, like messages, so if I got a message or something via Facebook it'd go to my phone, and that'd be awesome.[/quote]This is an utterly horrific idea. As for the community calender, I think it is a plenty good idea. [Edited on 12.26.2011 10:26 AM PST]
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  • And you can just go in and sign up if there is a spot open? I love the idea, I'm game.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior There Hyle. I read your thread. Happy? On topic, but significantly less important... I approve of this idea. It's why I use Killane's Deck of Many site for BUNGLE games. But an on-site one would be nice too. Especially for advertising.[/quote] I thought you would like the idea for BUNGLE, as even back when the website was more active, we had like 1500 members and maybe 30 active members who would regularly come to our bashes. Not very diverse given the number of people who joined the group, if we had something like The Community Calendar to work with, perhaps we would get more people.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 First off, the need to join a group to participate in them. [/quote]That is completely and utterly untrue. [quote]Second, if you happen to not be on at the very second they're organized, you're -blam'd!-.[/quote]Priority is given to people that have no participated in Carnages before. We try very hard to make sure new faces get a chance to participate: every time. And if it is just people that have played before? Then the fact that is fills up quickly shows that the system is GOOD, not bad. [quote] Also, it's all very disorganized as far as joining goes.[/quote]We have our way of organizing, and it works very well. All you do is post and send a friend request to our Carnage Gamertag. The organizers have access to this gamertag via Xbox.com, and we maintain the list of people there. Quick, easy, efficient and, above all else, not confusing.[/quote]I'm sorry. I suppose my understanding of it was excessively corrupted. I take back what I said.
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  • I would love this feature. Take my money.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Buggy Virus Yes, I would love it. It could also be integrated with bungie events as well such as deadlines for contests and humpdays.[/quote] this
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  • That would be Super Awesome to see on here.
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  • Put the Employees' birthdays in it, and that's an awesome idea.
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  • Community Calendar sounds way better :) Also, we can combine this with the [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=68778484]Advertisement Space Thread[/url]. The space where it normally advertises the Noble Map Pack and stuff could be sort of like an "Upcoming Scheduled Events" section, notifying the user when a scheduled event is near. What do you guys think?
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  • That seems like a bear. And if anything like this ever came to fruition, it would need to be curated by a champ.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 First off, the need to join a group to participate in them. [/quote]That is completely and utterly untrue. [quote]Second, if you happen to not be on at the very second they're organized, you're -blam'd!-.[/quote]Priority is given to people that have no participated in Carnages before. We try very hard to make sure new faces get a chance to participate: every time. And if it is just people that have played before? Then the fact that is fills up quickly shows that the system is GOOD, not bad. [quote] Also, it's all very disorganized as far as joining goes.[/quote]We have our way of organizing, and it works very well. All you do is post and send a friend request to our Carnage Gamertag. The organizers have access to this gamertag via Xbox.com, and we maintain the list of people there. Quick, easy, efficient and, above all else, not confusing.
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  • There Hyle. I read your thread. Happy? On topic, but significantly less important... I approve of this idea. It's why I use Killane's Deck of Many site for BUNGLE games. But an on-site one would be nice too. Especially for advertising.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 Sounds like a good idea considering the current system for Community Carnage events or whatever they're called is absolutely dreadful.[/quote] Specifically what about it is so dreadful? For the sake of discussion, of course, I have no interest in contesting your opinion.[/quote]-redacted but still viewable in an abridged version of its stupidity in burrito's post- [Edited on 12.26.2011 9:19 AM PST]
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  • That'd be fantastic. I'd love that. I have Facebook texts sent to my phone whenever I get notifications, like messages, so if I got a message or something via Facebook it'd go to my phone, and that'd be awesome. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ctjl96 TL;DR: Facebook Event system on Bnet, pretty much. [/quote] I wouldn't know, I've never used Facebook :) Speaking of which though, perhaps it would also be good if you could link a Twitter / Facebook Account to your Bungie.net group so it sends those sites updates whenever you make a new event or news article? I don't know the exact logistics behind all that stuff as I really don't use either service, it was just a thought.[/quote] "DERPPPPPPPPPP EVERUYWUN IF U WANNA PLAI HALO -blam!- JOIN NOW" or "AIGH WE'RE GUNNA USE THE [U][b]COMMUNITY[/b][/U] FORUM TO ORGANIZE DIS EVEN THO THERE'S A LIMIT AND DIS IS SPECIAL SUMHAO SO IT DON'T GO IN DA CLASSIFIDS k nao first com first serv gogogogogogogogogog also bannt ppl cnt plai" That's gonna be hard to read. Basically, flash-mobbing the Community Forum, despite the fact that it would normally go in the Classifieds and that there's a limit on how many people can join, and having people that second say whether or not they can go, which is often subject to change, is pretty inefficient. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 Sounds like a good idea considering the current system for Community Carnage events or whatever they're called is absolutely dreadful.[/quote] Specifically what about it is so dreadful? For the sake of discussion, of course, I have no interest in contesting your opinion.[/quote]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ctjl96 TL;DR: Facebook Event system on Bnet, pretty much. [/quote] I wouldn't know, I've never used Facebook :) Speaking of which though, perhaps it would also be good if you could link a Twitter / Facebook Account to your Bungie.net group so it sends those sites updates whenever you make a new event or news article? I don't know the exact logistics behind all that stuff as I really don't use either service, it was just a thought. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 Sounds like a good idea considering the current system for Community Carnage events or whatever they're called is absolutely dreadful.[/quote] Specifically what about it is so dreadful? For the sake of discussion, of course, I have no interest in contesting your opinion. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spawn031 To add onto this idea, I think that Bungie employees should be able to post global community carnage's within the calendar. This way, if DeeJ was to do a Ride Along event, you don't have to be in a specific group to see it. Since a Bungie Employee posted it, they can have the option of showing it viewable for ALL bungie.net members.[/quote] Seems reasonable. [quote][u]Just a couple little other suggestions:[/u] -You should be required to link your gamertag to a Bungie.net account in order to sign up for an event.[/quote] I honestly can't remember, but is it possible to change what gamertag is linked to your Bungie.net Account? I imagine it might be a bit of a turn down to players if they were forced to sign up with whatever gamertag they linked to their Bungie.net Account if it was out of date. [quote]-Possibly a "post game carnage stats" link to events that occurred. That way if people can't actually attend the event, they can at least check out what happened and how their friends competed.[/quote] I imagine that this would be best handled in the attached thread inside of the group. You would still be able to reach said thread after the event is over by either going through the Event Feed or by going to the Event Feed from the Bungie Scheduler (Community Calendar sounds much better though). [quote]-This should also be used for Group V Group carnage's. Whether it be on Halo, Marathon, Battlefield, MW3, Gears of War or whatever. I think it would be neat to see group carnage's come back and people can see who is the top dog for private group event.[/quote] That's a good idea, but how would that be handled?
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  • Implement this now Achronos.
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  • Outstanding, Hylebos. I would most definitely take advantage of these features permitting my chapters are readily prepared for the carnage. The only other [i]"viable"[/i] option we have at present is the classifieds for such advertisement, planning, and recruitment. However, it would never be able to function optimally, as the laze throughout the community is a real issue which must be considered. Of course to solve such an issue, you must negotiate with the vexatious little congruences of apathy, as your idea seems to have conquered. On paper, I am in agreement with the outlook of this venture, however, we must test this in practice to know for sure the fruits of it. Thus, I am content with the initial operation. [i]My boards show green.[/i]
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  • DeeJ asked a similar question within the group, I explained the success of an event depends upon exclusivity, visibility and structure. Exclusivity is tied to frequency (too much = spam), theme, purpose, and who is attending. Visibility is best explained through comparison. An indiscriminate thread in The Classifieds cannot compare with a thread in an active public forum, a Comm Chatter article, or the gold Septagon. Structure is tied to control (seeing what you want to see), reliability and image (reputation); it is vital in maintaining visibility and exclusivity. I felt the only way more action like the carnage could be seen on bungie.net was through creation of a system (or systems) with the restraints necessary to preserve exclusivity and visibility. It must take the concepts of events like the carnage and apply them to bungie's scale, which I'm sure you can appreciate is never a simple task. I won't bog this thread down now with my own suggestions, what I will say is that this idea meets all the criteria I could come up with and provides members with a great deal of control. I love it. I encourage people to keep thinking along these lines, particularly around the question of how to get more people to use bungie.net to play the games they want to play. The community team are definitely interested in any ideas people might have. [Edited on 12.26.2011 3:04 AM PST]
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    All in all, I would love to see something like this integrated. As previously mentioned, it's a bit like the "facebook event" system except it's on bnet with a few changes. It would most definitely help improve group activity and awareness of what's going on. Also, you don't have to wait to be the lucky few that happen to see the community sign up thread on the front page. Just make it a habit to check the "community calendar" or whatever it's called, and see what's happening with your groups. To add onto this idea, I think that Bungie employees should be able to post global community carnage's within the calendar. This way, if DeeJ was to do a Ride Along event, you don't have to be in a specific group to see it. Since a Bungie Employee posted it, they can have the option of showing it viewable for ALL bungie.net members. [u]Just a couple little other suggestions:[/u] -Obviously for individual groups it would be put into the user security controls as you mentioned. -You should be required to link your gamertag to a Bungie.net account in order to sign up for an event. -Possibly a "post game carnage stats" link to events that occurred. That way if people can't actually attend the event, they can at least check out what happened and how their friends competed. -This should also be used for Group V Group carnage's. Whether it be on Halo, Marathon, Battlefield, MW3, Gears of War or whatever. I think it would be neat to see group carnage's come back and people can see who is the top dog for private group event. Obviously, we're all brainstorming this idea right now, but definitely a great suggestion.
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  • Fix'd [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 Sounds like a good idea considering Community Carnage events or whatever they're called are absolutely dreadful.[/quote] [Edited on 12.25.2011 4:19 PM PST]
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  • Great idea. Would definitely work.
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  • Sounds like a good idea considering the current system for Community Carnage events or whatever they're called is absolutely dreadful.
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  • -Saved- Response a bit later, w/t the family.
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  • TL;DR: Facebook Event system on Bnet, pretty much. Fantastic idea.
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  • Yes, I would love it. It could also be integrated with bungie events as well such as deadlines for contests and humpdays.
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