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3/22/2011 12:08:02 AM
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The issues with Reach.

[quote][i][b]Note - This thread is about my issues with Reach, and possible fixes for said issues. Much of it is my opinion on the game; please treat it as just that, an opinion.[/b][/i][/quote] [quote][b]Thread Overview[/b][/quote] This thread is going to cover 7 different topics in Reach. Here's how they'll go: - Campaign - Multiplayer (Matchmaking - Customs) - Firefight - Forge - Theater - Game mechanics - What was good [quote][/quote]Okay, here we go.[quote][/quote] [quote][b]Campaign[/b][/quote] I had a few issues here. [b]Canon[/b] First off, the campaign broke canon, which is a kick in the nuts to fans of the novels. I don't see why they couldn't just create a campaign that flowed [i]with[/i] the novels, or maybe, one that was even about TFoR (that would've been tough though, I don't blame Bungie for not doing that). [b]Characters[/b] Secondly, the character development for the campaign was less than satisfying. Here's what I thought of the characters: Jorge - Awesome. Kat - Annoying -blam!-. Carter - He's alright. Emile - Douche who doesn't know how to watch his motion tracker. Jun - Didn't care for him. Noble Six - Not nearly as badass as the chief. I didn't care much for any of them, except Jorge, who also happened to be the first to die (leaving you alone with the rest of noble team and their inherent lack of depth). Noble team was also quite generic. Here's how they go. Jorge - Heavy weapons guy, but get this . . . he has a big heart. :D Kat - Tech specialist and the chick of the team. Carter - The great team leader. Emile - Badass with a skull on his face. Jun - That sniper guy. Noble Six - The [i]silent[/i] badass. [b]Fun Factor[/b] Thirdly, where are the hyper memorable, large scale assault missions like The Ark? Tip of the Spear felt like a failed attempt at this (awesome opening cutscene, boring mission). Long Night of Solace was very similar; Sabre combat was suppose to be awesome, but it ended up being to short and boring. In other words . . . there weren't any truly memorable missions. Conclusion on campaign. - It broke canon. - Generic characters with lack of depth. - No memorable missions. [quote][b]Multiplayer[/b][/quote] [b]Maps[/b] Maps . . . Reach has the worst selection of maps to ever graze Halo. Case in point, Swordbase (AKA, yellow lift map). There are others though, including Pinnacle (they defiled Ascension), Hemmorage (they pinnacled Blood Gulch and Coagulation), Boardwalk, etc. Not to mention the game only shipped with nine true maps (Forge World maps don't count), which is far too few. [i]Sidenote - Condemned and Highlands look great.[/i] [b]Gameplay[/b] I personally feel that Armor Abilities ruin gameplay, however this could be partially fixed with the upcoming Classic Playlist. They would however have to eventually include BTB Classic, Objective Classic, and FFA Classic (the more playlists, the better) in order to truly come close to pleasing us (there would still be many less than satisfying game mechanics, but I'll get to those later). Gameplay in general feels to slow. Factors that contribute to this are: - Slow movement speed. - Low jump height. - Bloom. - The terrible Armor Lock. - Underpowered weapons. - Armor Abilities in general. - No bleed through melees. [b]Customs[/b] Customs are a bust. - Infection is broken (there [i]is[/i] a fix incoming, but I'm still including it). - Where's V.I.P.? - Many other gametypes are broken as well or lacking customizability. While Armor Abilities don't fit well in competitive gameplay, I think they would work well in social matchmaking (Action Sack) playlists/customs. [i]Sidenote - I've gotta say, Action Sack is sounding pretty kick ass.[/i] [b]Imbalance[/b] Unbalanced weapon sandbox: - AR vs. Plasma Repeater. - DMR vs. Needle Rifle (in terms of effectiveness against vehicles). - Sniper vs. Focus Rifle. - AL vs. every other AA. - OP Nades. - Etc. [b]Ranking System[/b] Reach's Ranking system . . . 1-50 may not have been perfect, but it was a helluva lot better than the CoD style (not that I have anything against CoD) ranking system we have in place right now. In Halo 3 we could actually tell who was good by looking at their rank, not anymore though. Bring 1-50 back (at least for certain playlists) . . . that's all I'm gonna say on that. [quote][b]Firefight[/b][/quote] [b]Maps (again)[/b] Not much to say here . . . the maps are copy and pasted from the campaign, and are bad as a result (ODST somehow had good maps using this technique . . . odd). Not enough vehicle warfare on these maps either. [b]Intensity[/b] Firefight in ODST could get extremely intense because there was that feeling that you absolutely had to survive (Vid Master - Endure). In Reach's case, there's no intensity whatsoever. You have infinite lives! Whats it matter if you die?! Yes, you can change that in the custom options, but it'd be neat if it were doable in matchmaking. [i]Sidenote - Unearthed looks sweet![/i] [b]Customizability[/b] This is were Firefight is great. Lots of customizability. It could use some more options, but it's pretty good right now. [i]Sidenote - Where are my Red vs. Blue Firefight voices?![/i] [quote][b]Forge[/b][/quote] [b]Forge World[/b] The only map you can truly forge on is Forge World. Forge World is [i]okay[/i], but I find it to be very bland. [b]The Other Maps[/b] Unlike in Halo 3 . . . you can't truly forge on any of the other maps (except Tempest, which is just Forge World 2.0). In Halo 3 I saw some crazy forge variants on maps such as Last Resort, Avalanche, and Sandtrap. Similar feats aren't possible on maps such as Powerhouse, Zealot, or Countdown for example. [b]Forge 2.0[/b] Pretty good, although it's very glitchy at the moment. Hopefully these glitches get fixed in a TU. [quote][b]Theater[/b][/quote] [b]No Upgrades[/b] Where's my ability to [i]truly[/i] rewind, and why can't I watch other people from their first person POV? [b]Just Downgraded[/b] I really enjoyed watching films with friends of mine in theater in Halo 3 . . . not possible in Reach. [quote][b]Game Mechanics[/b][/quote] [b]Armor Lock[/b] This is why Armor Lock is the worst game mechanic ever . . . of all time. *You outplay someone and he Armor Locks on you right before death* A few things can happen here. A.) You kill him right when he comes out of Armor Lock. [i]So[/i] . . . all AL did in that situation was slow down gameplay, which makes for boring non Haloesque gameplay. B.) The guys team mate comes around the corner after he should have been dead already and kills you. [i]So[/i] . . . you got cheated out of a kill that you earned, just because the other guy had a rechargeable invincibility button that takes no skill to use, and you can spawn with at anytime . . . good gameplay right there. /Sarcasm? Yes. C.) You run away and lose a kill that should have been yours. Yeah, Armor Lock sucks. [b]Bloom[/b] I personally think that this game would be a lot better if there were no bloom at all on precision weapons, and that they would instead just slow the rate of fire on those weapons (or preferably just buff the rest of the weapon sandbox in order to balance out the faster firing weapons, while speeding up the pace of gameplay). However, it wouldn't be such a big deal, if bloom were at least implemented correctly. Case in point, DMR bloom. The DMR is the primary weapon in Reach, and because of how bloom was implemented on it, it's more effective to spam the trigger. This results in random, derp-worthy gameplay. Don't you think that the person who paces their shots should win against a spammer [u]every single time[/u]? That's not the case though. [b]No Bleed Through Melees[/b] This completely destroys the whole point of shooting in close quarters combat. Why shoot when you can run in for the melee? Derp. [b]Title Update[/b] These are [i]The Big 3[/i] that [i]need[/i] to be eradicated in a title update. One last one though . . . what happened to the vehicle physics? [quote][b]What Was Good[/b][/quote] [b]Graphics[/b] I'm split on this one. The graphics are pretty damn good, but at the same time, the aesthetics don't really feel like Halo to me . . . but I don't know, that's just my opinion. [quote][b]In The End[/b][/quote] Reach still has potential, but it needs a TU and a bunch of other changes. The campaign is irreparable though . . . at least in my opinion. Feel free to comment on this entire OP, or just certain parts. TL;DR - Good for you, kid. Signed, [i]-The Embodiment of Awesome[/i] [Edited on 05.23.2011 10:13 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paragon Fury [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paragon Fury 1: Campaign was bad. Where are my 60 enemy AI at once Bungie? Or my large-scale assaults. I'm mean, by the light, its a full-scale planetary siege, but Delta Halo saw more action than we did on Reach.[/quote]Yes. [quote]2: Two of your multiplayer points are wrong and the other one is partially wrong. You actually run faster in Reach than Halo CE and Halo 3. (Though not Halo 2) Jump height in Reach is higher than any other Halo game; however the jump time is longer in the older games, meaning you can jump farther.[/quote]Player speed maybe, but I know jump height is lower in Reach. [b]No, jump height is actually higher in Reach. For best comparison, use the Warthog, which has stayed the same size in every game, just with graphical upgrades. In the old games, the basic jump would take your feet just to the top of the 'Hog's canopy. In Reach, your feet actually clear the top of the chaingun. It might feel higher in the old games because you stay up there longer, but you can actually jump over things in Reach you couldn't in older games.[/b] [quote]And bloom for the DMR works just fine. At long and medium range a pacer will beat a spammer every day of the week and twice on Sunday if they actually hit all their shots. At close range the question becomes why are you not using an AR/Magnum at close range instead of the DMR, and if the DMR is your only choice why would you NOT spam it since it's bloom won't matter at close range?[/quote] No, it doesn't. I can out DMR someone at long-range by spamming if I crouch + scope-in, and this is especially true for mid-range. And Yes, spamming is more effective at close-range, and there lies the problem. Since it's more effective to spam at close-range, CQC battles end up having a random victor decided by luck since both people will spam at that range. [quote]Most of the bloom complaints for the DMR stem from people either just missing, but wanting to blame the game and not themselves,[/quote]I'm not gonna blame myself for bad game mechanics. [quote] and people who have poor perception of what entails "close, medium and long ranges" of combat. (Hint: Maps like "Countdown" do not have long range combat, period.)[/quote]To me (and most people) ranges go like this. AR range = close range. DMR range = Medium range. Sniper range = long range. [b]I don't measure by the weapons. I measure by the actual size of the map. Guardian is a small map; Hemorrhage is not.[/b] [quote]As for the maps, while the default maps aren't the greatest, they're certainly not bad. Pinnacle is basically a 1 for 1 remake of Ascension, sans Banshee, which would absolutely make the map unplayable. Its only real issue is spawns.[/quote]And the spawns are atrocious. [quote]And the DLC maps contain some of the best maps in Halo yet, which is saying something.[/quote]Tempest was the only good map in Noble. I mentioned in the OP that Defiant was looking pretty good. [b]The Defiant Maps are good. Its just that Highlands has to adjusts the PW spawns.[/b] [quote]The weapons are fairly balanced, except in a few cases where they should've kept old differences (Sentinel Beam/Beam Rifle instead of Focus Rifle), and the Plasma Repeater should be replaced with the Plasma Rifle in MM.[/quote]UNSC weapons are better in almost every situation than Covie weapons. [b]The PRifle annihilates the AR in close range, though the AR has a longer reach than the PRifle. Other than that, there are no analogues to be found, other than Focus Rifle, which is inferior to the Sniper Rifle. The NR has the exact same kill time as the DMR, if you're counting headshots. Its just that if you don't get the headshot, then the DMR will beat you.[/b] [quote]Infection is getting its Alpha Zombie fix later, and KoTH and Oddball are having their own fixes in gametypes for MM soon, that concern goes out the window.[/quote]I did mention that there were fixes incoming. [quote]As for VIP, lets face it, other than for Race gametypes, it was hated. So Bungie took it out and gave us an actual Race gametype.[/quote]Wrong, I and many people loved it. There were some really fun custom gametypes (not involving race) for V.I.P. [quote]3: Firefight matchmaking usually has a limit of 10 lives for most gametypes. And you can customize Firefight for local games, so... [/quote]Last I played Firefight there was unlimited lives. I haven't played in a long time though, so maybe it changed . . . IDK there.[/quote][/quote]Jump height - Possibly true, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's not high enough (or that it doesn't keep you in the air long enough), it's still harder to clear certain jumps, and it still takes away from the gameplay because of the way jumps work in Reach . . . however it is that they work. Ranges - Doesn't change the fact that DMR bloom is still incredibly random at any range aside from cross mappin on Hemorrhage. AR vs. Plasma Rifle - Maybe, but in most cases it's AR vs Plasma Repeater not Plasma Rifle. DMR vs. NR - I was referring to their effectiveness against vehicles. The NR is useless in that respect.

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  • I disagree with you a lot, but i'm not one to start an argument over a video game. I thin that the game was amzing but forge world looked the same at every aspect.

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    I agree with everything you said OP.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paragon Fury 1: Campaign was bad. Where are my 60 enemy AI at once Bungie? Or my large-scale assaults. I'm mean, by the light, its a full-scale planetary siege, but Delta Halo saw more action than we did on Reach.[/quote]Yes. [quote]2: Two of your multiplayer points are wrong and the other one is partially wrong. You actually run faster in Reach than Halo CE and Halo 3. (Though not Halo 2) Jump height in Reach is higher than any other Halo game; however the jump time is longer in the older games, meaning you can jump farther.[/quote]Player speed maybe, but I know jump height is lower in Reach. [b]No, jump height is actually higher in Reach. For best comparison, use the Warthog, which has stayed the same size in every game, just with graphical upgrades. In the old games, the basic jump would take your feet just to the top of the 'Hog's canopy. In Reach, your feet actually clear the top of the chaingun. It might feel higher in the old games because you stay up there longer, but you can actually jump over things in Reach you couldn't in older games.[/b] [quote]And bloom for the DMR works just fine. At long and medium range a pacer will beat a spammer every day of the week and twice on Sunday if they actually hit all their shots. At close range the question becomes why are you not using an AR/Magnum at close range instead of the DMR, and if the DMR is your only choice why would you NOT spam it since it's bloom won't matter at close range?[/quote] No, it doesn't. I can out DMR someone at long-range by spamming if I crouch + scope-in, and this is especially true for mid-range. And Yes, spamming is more effective at close-range, and there lies the problem. Since it's more effective to spam at close-range, CQC battles end up having a random victor decided by luck since both people will spam at that range. [quote]Most of the bloom complaints for the DMR stem from people either just missing, but wanting to blame the game and not themselves,[/quote]I'm not gonna blame myself for bad game mechanics. [quote] and people who have poor perception of what entails "close, medium and long ranges" of combat. (Hint: Maps like "Countdown" do not have long range combat, period.)[/quote]To me (and most people) ranges go like this. AR range = close range. DMR range = Medium range. Sniper range = long range. [b]I don't measure by the weapons. I measure by the actual size of the map. Guardian is a small map; Hemorrhage is not.[/b] [quote]As for the maps, while the default maps aren't the greatest, they're certainly not bad. Pinnacle is basically a 1 for 1 remake of Ascension, sans Banshee, which would absolutely make the map unplayable. Its only real issue is spawns.[/quote]And the spawns are atrocious. [quote]And the DLC maps contain some of the best maps in Halo yet, which is saying something.[/quote]Tempest was the only good map in Noble. I mentioned in the OP that Defiant was looking pretty good. [b]The Defiant Maps are good. Its just that Highlands has to adjusts the PW spawns.[/b] [quote]The weapons are fairly balanced, except in a few cases where they should've kept old differences (Sentinel Beam/Beam Rifle instead of Focus Rifle), and the Plasma Repeater should be replaced with the Plasma Rifle in MM.[/quote]UNSC weapons are better in almost every situation than Covie weapons. [b]The PRifle annihilates the AR in close range, though the AR has a longer reach than the PRifle. Other than that, there are no analogues to be found, other than Focus Rifle, which is inferior to the Sniper Rifle. The NR has the exact same kill time as the DMR, if you're counting headshots. Its just that if you don't get the headshot, then the DMR will beat you.[/b] [quote]Infection is getting its Alpha Zombie fix later, and KoTH and Oddball are having their own fixes in gametypes for MM soon, that concern goes out the window.[/quote]I did mention that there were fixes incoming. [quote]As for VIP, lets face it, other than for Race gametypes, it was hated. So Bungie took it out and gave us an actual Race gametype.[/quote]Wrong, I and many people loved it. There were some really fun custom gametypes (not involving race) for V.I.P. [quote]3: Firefight matchmaking usually has a limit of 10 lives for most gametypes. And you can customize Firefight for local games, so... [/quote]Last I played Firefight there was unlimited lives. I haven't played in a long time though, so maybe it changed . . . IDK there.[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paragon Fury [/quote]It might take me a few minutes to get back to you if you reply.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paragon Fury 1: Campaign was bad. Where are my 60 enemy AI at once Bungie? Or my large-scale assaults. I'm mean, by the light, its a full-scale planetary siege, but Delta Halo saw more action than we did on Reach.[/quote]Yes. [quote]2: Two of your multiplayer points are wrong and the other one is partially wrong. You actually run faster in Reach than Halo CE and Halo 3. (Though not Halo 2) Jump height in Reach is higher than any other Halo game; however the jump time is longer in the older games, meaning you can jump farther.[/quote]Player speed maybe, but I know jump height is lower in Reach. [quote]And bloom for the DMR works just fine. At long and medium range a pacer will beat a spammer every day of the week and twice on Sunday if they actually hit all their shots. At close range the question becomes why are you not using an AR/Magnum at close range instead of the DMR, and if the DMR is your only choice why would you NOT spam it since it's bloom won't matter at close range?[/quote] No, it doesn't. I can out DMR someone at long-range by spamming if I crouch + scope-in, and this is especially true for mid-range. And Yes, spamming is more effective at close-range, and there lies the problem. Since it's more effective to spam at close-range, CQC battles end up having a random victor decided by luck since both people will spam at that range. [quote]Most of the bloom complaints for the DMR stem from people either just missing, but wanting to blame the game and not themselves,[/quote]I'm not gonna blame myself for bad game mechanics. [quote] and people who have poor perception of what entails "close, medium and long ranges" of combat. (Hint: Maps like "Countdown" do not have long range combat, period.)[/quote]To me (and most people) ranges go like this. AR range = close range. DMR range = Medium range. Sniper range = long range. [quote]As for the maps, while the default maps aren't the greatest, they're certainly not bad. Pinnacle is basically a 1 for 1 remake of Ascension, sans Banshee, which would absolutely make the map unplayable. Its only real issue is spawns.[/quote]And the spawns are atrocious. [quote]And the DLC maps contain some of the best maps in Halo yet, which is saying something.[/quote]Tempest was the only good map in Noble. I mentioned in the OP that Defiant was looking pretty good. [quote]The weapons are fairly balanced, except in a few cases where they should've kept old differences (Sentinel Beam/Beam Rifle instead of Focus Rifle), and the Plasma Repeater should be replaced with the Plasma Rifle in MM.[/quote]UNSC weapons are better in almost every situation than Covie weapons. [quote]Infection is getting its Alpha Zombie fix later, and KoTH and Oddball are having their own fixes in gametypes for MM soon, that concern goes out the window.[/quote]I did mention that there were fixes incoming. [quote]As for VIP, lets face it, other than for Race gametypes, it was hated. So Bungie took it out and gave us an actual Race gametype.[/quote]Wrong, I and many people loved it. There were some really fun custom gametypes (not involving race) for V.I.P. [quote]3: Firefight matchmaking usually has a limit of 10 lives for most gametypes. And you can customize Firefight for local games, so... [/quote]Last I played Firefight there was unlimited lives. I haven't played in a long time though, so maybe it changed . . . IDK there.

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  • 1: Campaign was bad. Where are my 60 enemy AI at once Bungie? Or my large-scale assaults. I'm mean, by the light, its a full-scale planetary siege, but Delta Halo saw more action than we did on Reach. 2: Two of your multiplayer points are wrong and the other one is partially wrong. You actually run faster in Reach than Halo CE and Halo 3. (Though not Halo 2) Jump height in Reach is higher than any other Halo game; however the jump time is longer in the older games, meaning you can jump farther. And bloom for the DMR works just fine. At long and medium range a pacer will beat a spammer every day of the week and twice on Sunday if they actually hit all their shots. At close range the question becomes why are you not using an AR/Magnum at close range instead of the DMR, and if the DMR is your only choice why would you NOT spam it since it's bloom won't matter at close range? Most of the bloom complaints for the DMR stem from people either just missing, but wanting to blame the game and not themselves, and people who have poor perception of what entails "close, medium and long ranges" of combat. (Hint: Maps like "Countdown" do not have long range combat, period.) As for the maps, while the default maps aren't the greatest, they're certainly not bad. Pinnacle is basically a 1 for 1 remake of Ascension, sans Banshee, which would absolutely make the map unplayable. Its only real issue is spawns. And the DLC maps contain some of the best maps in Halo yet, which is saying something. The weapons are fairly balanced, except in a few cases where they should've kept old differences (Sentinel Beam/Beam Rifle instead of Focus Rifle), and the Plasma Repeater should be replaced with the Plasma Rifle in MM. Infection is getting its Alpha Zombie fix later, and KoTH and Oddball are having their own fixes in gametypes for MM soon, that concern goes out the window. As for VIP, lets face it, other than for Race gametypes, it was hated. So Bungie took it out and gave us an actual Race gametype. 3: Firefight matchmaking usually has a limit of 10 lives for most gametypes. And you can customize Firefight for local games, so...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vengeance417 Believe it or not, I barely ever see Armor Lock anymore when I play. It's the weirdest thing, too, because everytime I come here, everyone's complaining about it. [/quote]I haven't played in a while, so I'm not sure about this. [quote] agree with OP's points on Campaign. It was a bit lackluster compared to the older games. Generic characters+broken promises about epic moments=mediocre campaign.[/quote]Yeah. [quote]You did forget to mention about Firefight AFKers. In a Title Update or some sort of update relating to it, it should kick any player that isn't moving for at least one minute and have that player earn no credits. [/quote]I forgot about that. The banhammer in Reach is all around bad though.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FireRaptor95 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FireRaptor95 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [b]No Upgrades[/b] Where's my ability to [i]truly[/i] rewind, and why can't I watch other people from their first person POV? [/quote] I love how hidden first person is in theater. Click one of the analog sticks and you'll go into first person.[/quote]That's only for your POV though.[/quote] I'm pretty sure I've done it on other people. I might be wrong. Eh.[/quote]That only works if you download it from said players fileshare and then watch it. In that situation you wouldn't be able to watch it from anyone else's POV though.

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  • Believe it or not, I barely ever see Armor Lock anymore when I play. It's the weirdest thing, too, because everytime I come here, everyone's complaining about it. I agree with OP's points on Campaign. It was a bit lackluster compared to the older games. Generic characters+broken promises about epic moments=mediocre campaign. You did forget to mention about Firefight AFKers. In a Title Update or some sort of update relating to it, it should kick any player that isn't moving for at least one minute and have that player earn no credits.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Say Ons I read the MP part only, and yeah, word.[/quote]The section on game mechanics also pertains to the multiplayer section though. You should read that part too.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FireRaptor95 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [b]No Upgrades[/b] Where's my ability to [i]truly[/i] rewind, and why can't I watch other people from their first person POV? [/quote] I love how hidden first person is in theater. Click one of the analog sticks and you'll go into first person.[/quote]That's only for your POV though.[/quote] I'm pretty sure I've done it on other people. I might be wrong. Eh.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FireRaptor95 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [b]No Upgrades[/b] Where's my ability to [i]truly[/i] rewind, and why can't I watch other people from their first person POV? [/quote] I love how hidden first person is in theater. Click one of the analog sticks and you'll go into first person.[/quote]That's only for your POV though.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Secret AGENT 09 [b]No Upgrades[/b] Where's my ability to [i]truly[/i] rewind, and why can't I watch other people from their first person POV? [/quote] I love how hidden first person is in theater. Click one of the analog sticks and you'll go into first person.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cowleyad The [i]only[/i] problem with Reach is the Armor Abilities.[/quote]I'll have to disagree with you . . . [b]big time[/b].

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Seraphim Agree 100% I very much wish the Campaign could be edited, but I know this is impossible. So much wasted potential. I certainly hope 343i takes a look at your thread.[/quote]Yeah, I posted it on the Waypoint forums, but it only got like 4 responses and then proceeded to die. : /

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  • Agree 100% I very much wish the Campaign could be edited, but I know this is impossible. So much wasted potential. I certainly hope 343i takes a look at your thread.

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  • I read the MP part only, and yeah, word.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiledKittens [quote] - Where's V.I.P.?[/quote] This alone made Forge 2.0 boring for me. VIP is the only way to make bounty hunter, Team Juggernaut and Defense of the King/President type games.[/quote]I loved those gametypes too.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bloom AL Melee there is nothing wrong with bloom, al, or melee. you just need to adapt.[/quote]/trollface.jpg

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  • I didn't even read the first post. Every time I come to this forum, I feel a little bit of me die inside. I feel like I failed. I'm not even joking. I'm seriously telling the truth.

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  • The [i]only[/i] problem with Reach is the Armor Abilities.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE CABOOSINATOR Heeeeeellllooooo...... hey dude, get online so that we can play reach together.[/quote]You're joking?!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brant_Recon Noting will ever be as entertaining as Halo: Combat Evolved. I'm going to hold myself to the highest standards in the world, go sit in a corner, and cry myself to sleep every night because Halo Reach wasn't everything I was hoping for and more.[/quote]Many of us on this forum have been in the corner that you speak of.

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  • [quote] - Where's V.I.P.?[/quote] This alone made Forge 2.0 boring for me. VIP is the only way to make bounty hunter, Team Juggernaut and Defense of the King/President type games.

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  • there is nothing wrong with bloom, al, or melee. you just need to adapt. [Edited on 03.25.2011 5:19 PM PDT]

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