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Why Adult Entertainment Videos Can Do Harm - Discussion

[b]-FLAME SUIT ON!-[/b] [b]Disclaimer:[/b] [i]In this thread, I will argue my point as to why in my view p0rn videos do harm, this thread is also aimed at straight men, but most of the principles still can apply to women and -blam!--blam!-s. Before you all attack me in your replies for what ever reason, I would like to you read what I have to say. I am not looking at this from a religious or moral angle, but rather showing examples that could happen in real life. I do not want this to be a religious thread, and I do not want this to become a flat out insulting match between two sides, if it does reach that point, I will inform moderators of what is going on and ask them to lock the thread. Also, please no one post links to anything including nudity as there is no real age limit on these forums. Also, to any moderators who may read this, if you feel that discussion has become to explicit, or that my original post breaches the rules (I don't see how it should, as in nearly every thread there is at least one post closely related to what I am talking about) please lock. Ok, with that out the way, let me continue...[/i] There are three reasons I can see why it would do damage, as such, I will split the rest of this post into three parts. [b]1. Expectation[/b] This can harm relationships for two reasons, first is that for all those people who haven't had sex yet (AKA 99% of the flood) it boosts expectations beyond what can be equaled. You will want your girl friend/wife to look and act like the women you are used to seeing, and as such she isn't adequate. This is known to be the case. If you want to be married, and over time you become bored with your wife, you will want something that looks more like the unnaturally good looking women you have seen in the videos you watch. This will (and has often) led to affairs and break ups in relationships, as well as the man involved feeling resentment to their partner as they don't feel like they are getting what they should. [b]2. Addiction[/b] Most often, if you are in a long term relationship, you're wife/girlfriend wont want you to look at other people having sex. This is very understandable, the only problem is, that many people are addicted (or so they claim) to watching p0rn and -blam!-ion. Most often people seem to think that once they are in a relationship they wont need to resort to over ways of -blam!- stimulation, but in long term relationships (and coupled with the first point I made) means that they resort back to the original method, and cannot give it up, even when their partner finds out about it. [b]3. Objectification[/b] If you are used to having women do what ever you want, when ever you want, when watching videos on your computer, then if you think you do or not, you are making them simply an image or object, which exists only to enhance the way you feel. When this comes to a partner, you may be great friends with them in other occasions, but you will have objectified the female body and the -blam!- act as something simply for your own gain. Sure this isn't for everyone, but for many people it is. Men sometimes asks their parters for a threesome with another woman, but are opposed to their partner asking for a threesome with another man involved. In my eyes neither are right, but if thats what you are into or not, you must see the double standard. If those jokes about the perfect woman being some one who only makes sandwiches and being naked weren't based in anything, they wouldn't exist and people wouldn't find them funny. This also applies to other forms of sex which men like the idea of and women don't want to do, yet they are pressured into. [b]Conclusion[/b] I am not trying to judge anyone, but I have seen too many relationships and marriages break up because of this. Most people probably don't think of how it will effect them in the future, but they need to. Because if they don't address the issue at least, the adult videos will do harm. (clearly, there are some exceptions to the points, such as your partner watching it with you, or them not caring, but this isn't everyone, so the points still stand for those who do care) Again, I am not telling you how to live, just giving you food for thought. So, what is your view? Do you think that you should try and give it up now, before you get into a relationship, or how else should you live your life? [i]- JFKES[/i] [Edited on 02.10.2011 2:02 PM PST]

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  • JFKES, you do realize that a relationship that has one person making demands of the other isn't a healthy relationship to begin with, right? EDIT: Argh god dammit you quit. [Edited on 02.12.2011 6:17 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Terror Troll Almost anything can do harm. -blam!- is no more dangerous than video games.[/quote]In actions of violence, I see your point, but as far as relationships go, p0rn is undoubtedly more damaging. ___________________________________ I think that I have said all I am going to say, I wanted to warn some people that these problems [b]do[/b] exist, and that p0rn can largely responsible for them. I wanted to shed light on the lie that the internet seems to believe, that having short pleasure now wont have any implications on your life or lack of happiness in the future. I consider this thread closed as far as my involvement, and this will be my last post. If anyone really does want to discuss the issues I talked about here, please send me a PM. I want to thank the flood for proving to me that you can have a mature and sensible discussion about adult issues, without resorting to name calling and killing off logic and intelligence with mindless posts. I also want to thank any mods who saw this thread and made the decision to give it a chance despite its slightly risky nature as a thread and the seemingly likely-hood that it would turn into spam. Much thanks everyone who got involved, and expect more threads posing food for thought and discussion from me in the future. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • I am addicted to pr0nz, but that doesn't bother me.

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  • Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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  • Almost anything can do harm. -blam!- is no more dangerous than video games.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TES Christian I find that they assist me when I need to relieve myself. It's just nice to sit back, chill, and do the ol' five knuckle shuffle. naw ming?[/quote]But you should be aware, that it is at least a possibility that when you get in a serious relationship, your partner wants you to stop and you can't because you are addicted. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lies First of all, -blam!- hasn't changed my expectations for the worse at all. Not sure about you, but sex is pretty satisfying and I don't see how -blam!- changes that.[/quote]It should have, p0rn is very fake, and until you have sex, you have no way of knowing that. [quote]Secondly, -blam!- does not lead to objectification. You think that because person A watches -blam!-, suddenly they're developing misogynistic tendencies? Let's be real, most people are able to separate fiction from reality so it shouldn't be a problem. If you can't, then you have other things to worry about.[/quote]Your body/mind doesn't know, if it knew it was fake you wouldn't get turned on. You get turned on because your body thinks it is time for intercourse. [quote]And there is no way in hell that you have seen "too many relationships" break up because of -blam!-; that's one of the weakest excuses I've heard. If a couple seriously uses that as an excuse then there are obviously deeper issues at fault.[/quote]Not true at all. The man was exposed to p0rn at a young age and couldn't give it up even when he wanted to because his wife satisfied him. But even so, he was addicted to p0rn, when his wife found out and asked him to stop, he couldn't, after some time of this they separated and that is that. Please don't tell me you know what I have seen better than me. [quote]This honestly reminds me of some horrible movie I watched on lifetime or hallmark about the dangers of -blam!-. It was obvious scare tactics because it went against the producers misguided feelings of morality; some kid ruined his entire life and -blam!- was made to look like the culprit, when it was obvious to anyone with a brain that the kid was retarded as hell.[/quote]Nice, I don't see what this has to do with anything as part of the discussion. P0rn can be a turning point in peoples lives, and those who say it aren't are often just deluding themselves, because they can't face the tough truth. [quote]If you think that -blam!- is dangerous and "corrupts moral values" or something like that then it's time to get out of the 50's.[/quote]I think it can be dangerous to relationships (which it can) and I think people have been believing the lie of the internet, that it is totally fine and nothing bad happens as a result. Plus, I don't want this thread to be about morality, but yes, I think that it can be considered morally wrong to some people. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • First of all, -blam!- hasn't changed my expectations for the worse at all. Not sure about you, but sex is pretty satisfying and I don't see how -blam!- changes that. Secondly, -blam!- does not lead to objectification. You think that because person A watches -blam!-, suddenly they're developing misogynistic tendencies? Let's be real, most people are able to separate fiction from reality so it shouldn't be a problem. If you can't, then you have other things to worry about. And there is no way in hell that you have seen "too many relationships" break up because of -blam!-; that's one of the weakest excuses I've heard. If a couple seriously uses that as an excuse then there are obviously deeper issues at fault. This honestly reminds me of some horrible movie I watched on lifetime or hallmark about the dangers of -blam!-. It was obvious scare tactics because it went against the producers misguided feelings of morality; some kid ruined his entire life and -blam!- was made to look like the culprit, when it was obvious to anyone with a brain that the kid was retarded as hell. If you think that -blam!- is dangerous and "corrupts moral values" or something like that then it's time to get out of the 50's. [Edited on 02.11.2011 2:36 PM PST]

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  • I find that they assist me when I need to relieve myself. It's just nice to sit back, chill, and do the ol' five knuckle shuffle. naw ming?

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  • No, just no. I enjoy those types of videos frequently and I am not like that AT ALL.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea It depends on the person. Like some women are so anti-p0rn and see it as a form of cheating. But for me, I don't care if my boyfriend watches p0rn. Whatever floats his boat. Kinda jealous that he doesn't share though. >:|[/quote]Maybe, but what happens if you meet the love of your life and she (he) doesn't want you to watch p0rn. Will you be able to give it up? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]It is really difficult to answer that question since I have never been in that position. All my ex boyfriends and my current boyfriend have watched p0rn in their lives. I don't understand why anyone would be against p0rn. Everyone mas'turbates. And p0rn is something to get off of. Girls do it too, though in my experience they are better at hiding it.[/quote]Not everyone mas'terbates, and I understand that for you, it wont probably be an issue. It is just that for many people there aren't girls like you who are ok to p0rn, and if their partner wants them to stop (when they should out of love) and they aren't able to they may become resentful towards the woman (or in some cases man), which in turn breads resentment. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea It depends on the person. Like some women are so anti-p0rn and see it as a form of cheating. But for me, I don't care if my boyfriend watches p0rn. Whatever floats his boat. Kinda jealous that he doesn't share though. >:|[/quote]Maybe, but what happens if you meet the love of your life and she (he) doesn't want you to watch p0rn. Will you be able to give it up? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]It is really difficult to answer that question since I have never been in that position. All my ex boyfriends and my current boyfriend have watched p0rn in their lives. I don't understand why anyone would be against p0rn. Everyone mas'turbates. And p0rn is something to get off of. Girls do it too, though in my experience they are better at hiding it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera The guy has the right mindset though. Yes, he'd bang the pr0nstar. No, he wouldn't marry her. It's genius.[/quote]If he would bang the p0rn star then how isn't it considered a form of cheating? [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • The guy has the right mindset though. Yes, he'd bang the pr0nstar. No, he wouldn't marry her. It's genius.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Judge Bread I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Judge Bread I Pr0n really isn't an issue in my relationship, we've been living together for two years, my relationship is perfect as far as I'm concerned. Do you know why? Because I watch pr0n but that has nothing to do with the way I interact with her. To be perfectly honest, if she acted like a pr0n star I wouldn't be with her. [/quote]Yet you -blam!-e to women who are p0rn stars, you clearly get turned on by people like that. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] I am also attracted to my girlfriend, the difference is I wouldn't feel comfortable living with a woman who routinely gets triple teamed in front of a camera. Just because they are selling it to the movie producer doesn't make it different to standing on a corner, there's a huge difference between a woman I'm just attracted to and a woman that I'm attracted to [b]and[/b] prepared to be in a relationship with.[/quote]Sure. But when watching p0rn you are wishing and imagining you were involved. In the moment, if you had the chance to have intercourse with the person involved, you most probably would. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] King Fluffs Wow, just wow. Other stuff gets locked....yet this doesn't...[/quote]Why should this be locked? It has broken no rules and every one has been very civil. Your post has nothing of value in in and as such is spam. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjadude132 People did all of those before p0rn was even invented.[/quote]That doesn't make p0rn ok. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • I watch it to educate myself.

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  • Probably because it's a completely civilised discussion between what mostly appears to be adults.

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  • Wow, just wow. Other stuff gets locked....yet this doesn't...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Judge Bread I Pr0n really isn't an issue in my relationship, we've been living together for two years, my relationship is perfect as far as I'm concerned. Do you know why? Because I watch pr0n but that has nothing to do with the way I interact with her. To be perfectly honest, if she acted like a pr0n star I wouldn't be with her. [/quote]Yet you -blam!-e to women who are p0rn stars, you clearly get turned on by people like that. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] I am also attracted to my girlfriend, the difference is I wouldn't feel comfortable living with a woman who routinely gets triple teamed in front of a camera. Just because they are selling it to the movie producer doesn't make it different to standing on a corner, there's a huge difference between a woman I'm just attracted to and a woman that I'm attracted to [b]and[/b] prepared to be in a relationship with.

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  • Just because a man's not watching pr0n, it doesn't mean he's not getting off to other women in his head.

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  • People did all of those before p0rn was even invented.

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  • I barely watch it anymore. Maybe once every two weeks.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CRYSTLE FTW I agree with you. I wish more men out there had this view.[/quote] [quote]And for the women who watch pr0n and expect their men to be hung like horses and last for two hours?[/quote] Well, me being a woman, I can say that I don't have those expectations because I don't watch it. It goes for both genders. I just speak on how I don't like the thought of my guy getting off to another girl. It just sits weird in my brain. However, I do have quite strong morals and am more old fashioned in that sense. I don't like the thought of my boyfriend getting turned on by random naked girls when he could just have me. [Edited on 02.11.2011 9:46 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rhea It depends on the person. Like some women are so anti-p0rn and see it as a form of cheating. But for me, I don't care if my boyfriend watches p0rn. Whatever floats his boat. Kinda jealous that he doesn't share though. >:|[/quote]Maybe, but what happens if you meet the love of your life and she (he) doesn't want you to watch p0rn. Will you be able to give it up? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] Dude, if the love of her life wants her to stop watching pr0n then he's probably not a suitable "lifelong love".[/quote]Then how come, before p0rn was so much on the market, "lifelong love" was more common? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] Lifelong love wasn't any more common years ago than it is now. It was a rarity then and it still is. People got divorced less, if that's what you mean. Unless you can find a way to paint pr0n as the reason divorce has become more socially acceptable, you have no point there.

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