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2/1/2022 11:03:07 PM
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I don't think anyone claiming that re-issued weapons or the updated Vanguard playlist are new content. The new content will be in the form of a new campaign, new destination, new quests, new raid, new multiplayer activity, new exotics, new weapon type, new weapon crafting system, and more. It continues to baffle me that people latch onto the idea that since Destiny 1 had yearly vendor refreshes, that means Destiny 2 has no new content. Not only does Destiny 2 offer significantly more content each year than Destiny 1 ever did, but Destiny 2 offers more new weapons each year throughout the year. This isn't to say one game is strictly better or worse than the other (because there are reasons for liking one over the other), but it is to say that Destiny 2 provides a lot of new content in addition to any recycled content that is done over and above new content.
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  • You know we haven't recieved a new gambit or pvp map in years...YEARS. Only 2 new strikes have been released since Forsaken, all the way back in 2018. The only "campaign" missions we recieved with BL were designed around being reused as "hunts" because they couldn't be bothered with creating seperate missions. Menagerie was removed, so what did we get instead...half-baked, rote 6-man activities that are indistinguishable. The latest raid was recycled from D1. Europa is the only new playable space since Forsaken, which, again, was back in 2018. A single planet, where Forsaken gave us the Dreaming City and Tangled Shore.

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  • Edited by KΞTHΞΓ NOIΓ: 2/2/2022 7:36:35 PM
    If you really hate it you would have been already left since black armory and never comeback, for all those reprised contents we kept getting over these years. Guess who’s over season rank 340 on this season with all the “throw away garbage seasonal content” ;) And you even hit LEGEND strikes rank! By doing non-PvP contents again, and again, and again, after who knows who stated “all I care about is pvp”. Your 3 1355 characters are really convincing everyone on how badly you hate this game! Oh, btw, nice Gjallarhorn you have there. Somehow I juuuuust can’t remember where I saw it last time. And somehow I remember this is the THIRRRRRD time I acquire an exotic rocket launcher with this name. That’s so weird, right? Hmmmmm, I have somewhat the same obscure but familiar feeling toward your fatebringer and corrective measure. They must be new. Ohhhh and all the seasonal triumphs you completed are sooooo nice. They must be handed to you for free since you are not the kind of person to play “throw away garbage seasonal content”. If you only care about pvp go play apex or something. No one is stopping you. Oh, don’t forget, black armory is included by “since Forsaken”. And, you can’t make an argument by keep shifting your focus. Seasonal contents are not “contents” you say? Please define “contents”. Seasonal C.O.N.T.E.N.T.S. Maybe you were trying to refer to “yearly expansion”. Are you really trying to compare a $10 season pass to a $60 yearly expansion? Oooooof. Sadly, 60 > 10 and that’s no 🧢. Maybe you need to consult your English teacher and Math teacher. Eat another dinner tomorrow = lazy😝😝😝😘

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  • Good luck figuring out how not to be sychophantic Bungie bot

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  • I'm astonished by how idiotic your post is and how instead of taking into account what I typed, you decided to misread all of it and insinuated everything, lol.

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  • D2 has way more gambit maps than d1 ever did.

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  • You continue to do what everyone does, only talk about areas where there is recycled content instead of talking about what we actually got this year: - 2 raids (1 new, 1 reprised with Master difficulty) - 5 strikes (2 new, 3 reprised) - 2 destinations (1 new, 1 reprised including Master version) - Empire Hunts (fair enough if you want to call this recycled) - 3 Exo Challenge missions - Legend/Master Lost Sectors - Stasis subclasses with Aspects and Fragments - 4 Wrathborn hunt activities - Coup de Grace mission - Harbinger mission - 4 Battleground activities - Presage mission - Override with 3 boss encounters and Last City variant - 3 Expunge missions (normal and corrupted modes) - Quria Expunge Mission - Astral Alignment (Normal and Legend) - Shattered Realm with 3 different areas and bosses - Exotic quests for Lament, Salvation's Grip, Hawkmoon, Ager's Sceptre - New exotic weapons and armor each season - New legendary weapons and armor each season Would you like to say that everything on this list is recycled content? If I compare this to let's say Rise of Iron, this year would leave that year's content in the dust, unless you wanted to include Age of Triumph which consisted of... wait... I do think it is worth noting that Gambit and Crucible have absolutely been ignored, and if you are a fan of those activities, I can at least empathize with wanting an update, but to say that Destiny provides little to no new content is straight up lying to themselves.

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  • Edited by girrafe07: 2/1/2022 11:50:41 PM
    Unbelievable that you replied without reading and ignored the lack of NEW CONTENT since Forsaken.

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  • [quote]lack of NEW CONTENT since Forsaken[/quote] I provided a list of new content since Beyond Light, which if my math is correct, is new content since Forsaken. If you would rather me list all new content since Black Armory, the list would be much longer.

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  • Holy ****, now you're trying to go ALL THE WAY BACK to Black Armory? That's when you know there's been a content issue and you know it, lol. Why are you talking about Black Armory when I'm talking about the lack of content since Forsaken in 2018? Sure, we got Presage and Harbinger, but that's only 2 missions that have been played ad nauseam... 2...that's it. Only 2 new strikes over 3 years is ridiculous and embarassing. Lost sectors as legendary/master is not new, it's REISSUED. And then you want to bring up seasonal content to lump in with DLC content. The seasons are laughable and merely serve as a means to make money. The seasonal activities, as I already stated, are a half-baked, rote mess.

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  • This has to be a troll... [quote]now you're trying to go ALL THE WAY BACK to Black Armory?[/quote] You claimed there was no new content since Forsaken, Black Armory was the release 3 months after Forsaken. In fact, we have been receiving new content every 3 months since Forsaken. I chose to only talk about new content since Beyond Light because it looks at a year's worth of content which contains quite a bit of new content.

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  • You went all the way back to Black Armory to talk about SEASONS, which, big surprise, did not include new zones, new maps, new strikes, new game types - it was strictly seasonal activities. But, again, you had to go back 3 YEARS to talk about content. You are flat out doing all the work for me and it's hilarious.

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  • Edited by InfernalDegree0: 2/2/2022 12:42:46 AM
    Would you like to comment on the list of things we got this year? [spoiler]what we actually got this year: - 2 raids (1 new, 1 reprised with Master difficulty) - 5 strikes (2 new, 3 reprised) - 2 destinations (1 new, 1 reprised including Master version) - Empire Hunts (fair enough if you want to call this recycled) - 3 Exo Challenge missions - Legend/Master Lost Sectors - Stasis subclasses with Aspects and Fragments - 4 Wrathborn hunt activities - Coup de Grace mission - Harbinger mission - 4 Battleground activities - Presage mission - Override with 3 boss encounters and Last City variant - 3 Expunge missions (normal and corrupted modes) - Quria Expunge Mission - Astral Alignment (Normal and Legend) - Shattered Realm with 3 different areas and bosses - Exotic quests for Lament, Salvation's Grip, Hawkmoon, Ager's Sceptre - New exotic weapons and armor each season - New legendary weapons and armor each season[/spoiler] You can't both want me to talk about new content brought this year, but then also say I'm not talking about content since 2018; so let's just talk about this past year, shall we? Edit: and by the way, I didn't even include the Beyond Light campaign, add that one while you're at it.

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  • YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THROW AWAY SEASONAL JUNK, LOL. I'm referring to ACTUAL content, as in core playlist activities. This is too rich. Recycling seasonal activities is not content, no matter how much you want to try and convince others.

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  • You have to be a troll, I'm completely convinced.

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  • Lol, stop projecting. It's hilarious you can't come up with anything besides seasonal crap, recycled content, reissued content, and a handful of missions and strikes. Unless you're doing it intentionally to point out the lack of content? Are you posting ironically?

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  • Okay, let's talk about all non-seasonal, non-reprised content since Shadowkeep (because you seem to take issue with me going back to anything during the year Forsaken was released) - Shadowkeep campaign - Beyond Light campaign - Europa destination - Garden of Salvation Raid - Deep Stone Crypt Raid - Pit of Heresy Dungeon - Prophecy Dungeon - Grasp of Avarice Dungeon - Scarlett Keep Strike - Glassway Strike - Proving Grounds Strike - Nightmare Hunts - Empire Hunts - Alters of Sorrow - Exo Challenge Also worth noting game updates that are not activities, but added to a new experience playing new content: - Armor 2.0 with new mods - Artifact mods - Stasis subclasses with aspects and fragments - Legend/Master/Grandmaster content for strikes and lost sectors Are you going to continue to claim that all of this is not new content?

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  • [quote]Okay, let's talk about all non-seasonal, non-reprised content since Shadowkeep (because you seem to take issue with me going back to anything during the year Forsaken was released) - Shadowkeep campaign - Beyond Light campaign - Europa destination - Garden of Salvation Raid - Deep Stone Crypt Raid - Pit of Heresy Dungeon - Prophecy Dungeon - Grasp of Avarice Dungeon - Scarlett Keep Strike - Glassway Strike - Proving Grounds Strike - Nightmare Hunts - Empire Hunts - Alters of Sorrow - Exo Challenge Also worth noting game updates that are not activities, but added to a new experience playing new content: - Armor 2.0 with new mods - Artifact mods - Stasis subclasses with aspects and fragments - Legend/Master/Grandmaster content for strikes and lost sectors Are you going to continue to claim that all of this is not new content?[/quote] Shadowkeep campaign and nightmare hunts are the same thing = lazy Beyond light campaign and empire hunts are the same thing = lazy The moon is recycled content, which diminshes everything within the barebones Shadowkeep DLC. DSC and GOS = raids are standard with DLC, and that's still only two new raids over 3 years, which is nothing special. EXO challenges = throw away content that no one would bother with if pinnacles weren't attached, but at least it's something...barely I'll give you alters of sorrow despite being an activity on the moon. GMs and lost sectors are NOT new content. Everything you've listed amounts to bare minimum content for DLCs, excludes all the content we lost in that same time span, and doesn't account for the lack of new maps, new patrol areas, new game types, new standalone campaign missions. It's MINIMAL.

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  • Just because you don't like a piece of content doesn't mean it is not new. Every criticism you made about content since Forsaken could be said about Forsaken: Campaign: Play it once, and then never again. Blind Well: Just another multiplayer event in a public space, nothing new or exciting Ascendant Challenges: Tedious activities that were pointless after the first completion. Dreaming City missions: Play each once and no reason to do it again, unoriginal content. Tangled Shore: Only worth going there for Spider for resources. Dreaming City: Sure, looks cool, but nothing to do other than the already mentioned throw away content. Raid and Dungeon: These are just standard, these are expected. Just to be clear, I think Forsaken was an outstanding piece of DLC content, but everything you said about Shadowkeep and Beyond Light could be said for Forsaken as well, at least when you are discussing the introduction of new content. I'm guessing your frustration fundamentally stems from a lack of updates to PVP game modes, if that is the case, I need to ask, why not play another game where PVP actually matters? This game has been receiving plenty of PVE updates.

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  • Dude, most of what I'm talking about pertains to PvE and you're trying to insinuate all I care about is PvP, so who's trolling here? You have only listed a handful of things that were not part of seasonal content over a 3 YEAR TIME SPAN. The seasons are not content, they're paid for, stand alone seasons, hence why they are called SEASONS and come with a seperate price tag. Content refers to CORE PLAYLISTS and DLC's. But, by all means, keep talking about throw away activities.

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  • Edited by InfernalDegree0: 2/3/2022 5:27:00 PM
    I had to recuperate for a couple days, got a headache trying to explain simple concepts to someone that is unwilling to listen. You seem to have a very specific definition of "content", because I have given you a ton of examples of content similar to what we got in Forsaken, but you continuously say it is "throw away junk". Let me instead ask you what you consider to be "content". What did we get in Forsaken specifically that would be considered "content"? By your definition: [quote]Content refers to CORE PLAYLISTS and DLC's.[/quote] We have gotten DLC content since Forsaken (Shadowkeep and Beyond Light), so the only thing I can think of that is different is the introduction of Gambit in Forsaken. I do have to warn you though, if you are going to claim Gambit is the piece of content that separates Forsaken from other DLCs, you need to explain why Gambit is widely considered to be a waste of time.

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  • I've already explained. You got a headache cause you don't know how to read and/or comprehend what you read.

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  • [quote]Let me instead ask you what you consider to be "content". What did we get in Forsaken specifically that would be considered "content"?[/quote] Please answer the question.

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  • Guy, LEARN TO READ. It was plainly spelled out in the very first comment, holy s***.

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  • I put your original comment below for reference. You do not talk about what "content" was added in Forsaken, instead, you talk about how everything since Forsaken is not "content". So I will ask you again: What did we get in Forsaken specifically that would be considered "content"? [quote]You know we haven't recieved a new gambit or pvp map in years...YEARS. Only 2 new strikes have been released since Forsaken, all the way back in 2018. The only "campaign" missions we recieved with BL were designed around being reused as "hunts" because they couldn't be bothered with creating seperate missions. Menagerie was removed, so what did we get instead...half-baked, rote 6-man activities that are indistinguishable. The latest raid was recycled from D1. Europa is the only new playable space since Forsaken, which, again, was back in 2018. A single planet, where Forsaken gave us the Dreaming City and Tangled Shore.[/quote]

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  • Are you illiterate? In all seriousness, are you illiterate? Do you have a learning disability?

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