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Edited by Wes: 2/2/2022 8:39:01 AM
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[quote]...or a better intrinsic jump for the mobility class so they don't feel like a requirement.[/quote] ...What? Hunter jump is already the most evasive, instantaneous, directional jump in the game. Not sure what else you want there. The fact you don't already know that is...telling, to say the least. The [i]only[/i] justification for Stompees is the fact that both other classes can outrun it otherwise, especially with the other movement exotics. Nothing feels worse than popping an otherwise well-timed super for a Warlock to fly away at Mach 1. But even then, Stompees literally cost [i]nothing[/i] for the benefits they add. And they add more benefits than any other exotic in the game, even compared to the other movements exotics. They enhance [i]every aspect[/i] of the already most evasive class, which neither Transversives or Dunemarchers do for the other classes. You must be [i]vastly underestimating[/i] the in-game benefits of Stompees to even say the things you did. With Stompees you can: 1. Bounce your head for insane momentum 2. Slide further 3. Jump higher 4. Have exaggerated directional veritcal jumps and in air evasiveness 5. Have exaggerated directional jumps across the xy-plane to let you close and create gaps faster than anyone else 6. Move faster in general All with [i]zero[/i] cost. FREE benefits to the most important movement aspects in the game, which Hunter ALREADY EXCELS at, is ridiculous. And I've been on the train for a Stompees rework for years. Long before some YouTube dude came alone. Asking them to cost a dodge cooldown or something really isn't all the much to ask. Heck. If they "ramped up" with rapid kills or had a fat cooldown or something I'd say make them stronger. Don't care at that point. That right there is cost, risk, and reward. And before you get on the "but Dunemarchers and Transversive" nonsense, they do not enhance the already most evasive and directional class, and they do have a requirement for their benefits outside of a sprint speed increase, whereas Stompees do not. Adding this edit here cause people seem to have all the same responses. Did I say I wanted them destroyed so nobody used them? No. Did I say I want Hunters to be slow? No. I just think the base Hunter kit is very strong, and enhancing all of that for free isn't logical. I even said to make Stompees benefits BETTER if it meant there was some sort of cost. And for the rest of you that say Stompees are the only ones keeping powerful exotics like Wormhusk or Bakris at bay, that's nothing more than a testament to how powerful Stompees are, considering how good the base Hunter kit is already. And if you can't make the base Hunter kit work without Stompees, that is a YOU problem. It has very clear strengths within its neutral game. Now I got out of town work for the next couple days, so y'all have a good one.
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  • So- what’s the risk whenever a Titan jumps into the air, and slams down like a rocket dealing damage equal to the amount of people around the person that it hit? Or did you forget about that whole Titan thing? Do I need to mention that Dunemarchers are still bugged? They still chain off of dead bodies sometimes? I can go on too, if you’d like. Transversive’s don’t need the extra jump, reloading automatically when you sprint is OP enough.

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  • Thank you. Put that garbage rant to bed.

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  • Someone had to. I can’t believe some people still just want to complain about Stomp-EE5 in 2022. It’s basically the only viable option we hunters have to run if we want to have a ton of fun in PvP. The other stuff is all super situational.

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  • dont forget stag which is literally just an "I win" exotic.

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  • I hate that dang thing. Easily one of the most irritating exotics to go up against that’s on a warlock.

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  • Edited by Ferus Lux: 2/3/2022 12:40:27 AM
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    Timeline-warping neigh of superiority - old

    The risk? Whenever a crayon eater does that to me, I'm already shooting at him and the moment he slams down I melee him and win.

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  • That’s assuming if it’s a stupid player though. Anyone with half a brain cell can just slam straight down on three of your teammates and one shot you. It’s also incredibly hard to punish a good Titan player in that animation due to how quick and how far they can travel with it.

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    Timeline-warping neigh of superiority - old

    I still get enough shots in so that my melee finishes them when they land. They can't melee you immediately. You can time your melee so the knock back from their slam is cancelled by your lunge and you win. The only time it's a problem is if you're weak but if you know the enemy team is running Code of The Missile, you can just avoid sitting at corners when weak. At the start of a match you should also avoid standing at corners if a missile head is on their team and you see a red dot closing in fast along with Titan lift sounds.

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  • Dunes and Transversives enhance slide, normal jump and general speed in addition to their respective perks. Stompes does the same.

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  • stompees handling buff?..... :)

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  • Identify most toxic kind of players: PvP players Best PvP class: hunters Problem: it’s op Result: They whine so hard and the problems didn’t get solved. Every time a hunter defend stompee they ignore movement is the most crucial aspect of FPS game and a sudden unexpected directional change is the most op thing you can get in a FPS game. Sometimes I wonder why are hunters so useless in GMs or Master raids dungeons and such. I suspect the reason being hunters are op in pvp so Bungie make them weak in PvE to compensate Titan and Warlock mains’ suffer in PvP. I know I won’t want any hunters on my day 1 raid team. Go lick your stompees.

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  • I’ve beat every single activity bungie has ever made, on hunter; with ease. You have to perfect your character my guy. The main reason people are whining about Hunters right now is simple; per bungie, the most used/character created, are hunters. Thus you have more of a hunter population in pvp. So that’s “all” you see. What’s one of the only S tier exotics for hunter? Stompees. So that’s why we are here. Over population of hunters using the best exotic to allow them to play the best they can to compete. Make no mistake, in a very good players hands, they can body anyone on any class or subclass. I’ll pull out the ole git gud.

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  • Aww yes a whole exotic allowing hunters to mimic the mobility of the other classes is too much lol

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  • You've made a huge mistake here, not in your points, which are 100% correct and accurate, no, the mistake you made is one we all make. You thought having a well thought out, balanced and valid point would be accepted by Hunter mains, never going to happen unfortunately. Whenever Stomp-ees are brought up they are defended so strongly because Hunters know its broken in its current form but, after 6 (I think) Years of solid use any nerf now would bea disaster, imagine having to adapt after not using anything else in all that time. Hunters, they may get changed, they may not, but denying that the need a rework of some kind is truly burying your head in the sand.

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  • Just sounds like more non hunters whining. Same ol, another day.

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  • [quote]You've made a huge mistake here, not in your points, which are 100% correct and accurate, no, the mistake you made is one we all make. You thought having a well thought out, balanced and valid point would be accepted by Hunter mains, never going to happen unfortunately. Whenever Stomp-ees are brought up they are defended so strongly because Hunters know its broken in its current form but, after 6 (I think) Years of solid use any nerf now would bea disaster, imagine having to adapt after not using anything else in all that time. Hunters, they may get changed, they may not, but denying that the need a rework of some kind is truly burying your head in the sand.[/quote] If only you put as much time into improving at the game as you do trying to insult me and other Hunters, you might one day make it to a 1.0

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  • That roast was too hard man, made me choke on my vitamin water.

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  • Edited by V21075: 2/2/2022 3:27:44 PM
    Omg! My...my KD...... is less than 1.0? why whatever will I do? Who gives an F about stats? My stats mean as much to me as your opinion of them.

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  • [quote]Omg! My...my KD...... is less than 1.0? why whatever will I do? Who gives an F about stats? My stats mean as much to me as your opinion of them.[/quote] Lol. What value does your opinion hold on matters of PvP?

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  • Edited by V21075: 2/2/2022 3:32:28 PM
    It's as valuable as your opinion of my stats 👍👍

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  • Incorrect, wee one, incorrect.

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  • [quote]It's as valuable as your opinion of my stats 👍👍[/quote] Why are you still here?

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  • It's the eternal question really, why are any of us here...on this earth....who put us here...what's the meaning of it all, I like your thinking...very theologian question, I'm impressed!!

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  • Edited by Seiryoku: 2/2/2022 3:58:08 PM
    [quote]It's the eternal question really, why are any of us here...on this earth....who put us here...what's the meaning of it all, I like your thinking...very theologian question, I'm impressed!![/quote] Apparently you're here to waste time. Again, you might actually reach an average level of competition if you spent more time improving. Then when you have something to say, it would be from an informed place made through experience, and not your feelings.

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  • Think you need to relax there, you do know this us a game right? As in it doesn't matter in the real world, you know, where we have bills and other things we can't pay with KD or "skillz"

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