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1/31/2022 9:24:34 PM
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Sony Acquiring Bungie is Not the Same as Microsoft Acquiring Bethesda

Everyone's freaking out, some even after reading the FAQ where Bungie assures that everything will stay cross-platform with no exclusives. People thinking that in the future they'll change their minds and make Destiny a PS exclusive. Because why else would Sony buy Bungie right? Well, let me tell you why and why they won't make it exclusive using a basic thought process - logic. Microsoft can buy Bethesda and make it's properties exclusive because it is easy to do so with that company. It's biggest IP's are single player games that simply play on your own device, isolated from other devices and certainly from other consoles. So it's easy to just not release them on other consoles. Destiny is not a singleplayer game. Rather it is a multi-console, cross-platform game with tens of millions of dollars invested into developing a system where that is possible and works. For a publisher to make it exclusive would waste that investment and cost a significant amount of money to undo. Which they wouldn't want to do anyway because... A large percentage of Destiny players are on other platforms. Millions of players. And each of these players, just like PS players, pay about a hundred bucks a year to play new Destiny content. That adds up to a buttload of money, enough that it wouldn't be in Bungie or Sony's interest to cut off that massive revenue. The extra money that Sony would make from PS exclusivity provably wouldn't even add up to that and Sony knows that, they're not dumb. So why would Sony buy Bungie? The same reason any pair of companies comes together. Share in resources and in turn share in profits, and Bungie has some BIG profits. Never to mention that Bungie is looking to go into other forms of media and Sony just happen to have a film studio handy who will also benefit from helping to produce Destiny film content, (which I will stipulate may be platform exclusive in its release. I don't know, does Sony have its own streaming service?). As for exclusive items and strikes and stuff in Destiny, I would expect them to keep their word, at the very least until The Final Shape is wrapped up. No point pissing off those customers on other devices when they make big profits without exclusives anyway. Future titles and IP's are also apparently multi-platform which I'm guessing might mean they've already put the development into making them for other platforms. I wouldn't be too surprised if someday they make a PS exclusive but that's not a big deal really. It's probably for a franchise we haven't even heard of yet.
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  • I definitely don't blame Sony or Bungie for current state of things. Its funny that there's people somewhere in the sky with brains that would make them say: Mega Boss: "The last go round we didn't have enough exclusives, so we need to buy videogames." Mega Boss' apprentice: "So we should buy a bunch of games and see how to make better exclusives?" Mega Boss: "No you fool. We should buy the videogame industry."

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  • Sony bought bungie for one reason, they are considered by a lot of people as the king of live services when it comes to gaming. Sony has many live service games planned in the next few years and bungie’s knowledge and experience is invaluable to Sony. Nobody is freaking out.

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  • Found out some more info about the acquisition. So apparently $2.4 billion is to buy all of bungies shares and $1.2 billion is for Bungie employee retention incentive plan. Sony really wants to keep the Bungie team intact.

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  • Reading posts like this reminds me that some people literally have no idea what the real world is like. Fact: Sony just spent a ton of money acquiring Bungie. Sony wants its money back (and then some). If you think "nothing changes" you are a naive fool.

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  • One thing it might hopefully mean is getting bigger and better expansions down the road. At least I’m trying to be optimistic. Sony buying this one is weird… not one of their typical moves. I guess the real question now is… “What happens next?”

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    • My problem is Bungies history, they made exotics and strikes exclusive before, they have lied to us constantly, I just dont trust them, cause the saying still rings true, talk is cheap.

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    • Microsoft had the chance to buy bungo and passed, that should tell you something about bungo.

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      • True, now Bungle would have to be PlayStation Censorship Approved.

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        • Edited by DHawk12: 2/2/2022 10:39:51 AM
          It’s all pretend. Once the cold war ends and war is declared (probably 2 years from now) then all the newly acquired games will become exclusives. Or microsoft will force sony to pay a ton of money every year to avoid getting slaughtered.

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        • Are you an expert on the situation? Do you have concrete information and sources on how or why? Just asking!

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        • The main difference is Bungie has 1 game. Bethesda has multiple. Elder Scrolls Doom Fallout Dishonored Prey Rage Wolfenstein Starfield [TBD if good] vs Destiny

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          • You have no idea how business actually works if you believe that. Everything Sony said about exclusivity and studio independence has about a 1.5 year shelf life. If you think they're gonna spend billions and let Bungie run itself into the ground like they are currently doing, you're just unrealistic. Bungie is Sony property now, billions worth. Bungie needed to be taken over badly. They just got taken over. The rest is a bunch of PR bs.

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          • Keep sucking down that copium

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          • Microsoft pulled a check mate buying cod and Fortnite psn will die is Microsoft says they’re exclusives buying bungie means bungie is broke after going independent nuff said

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            • Edited by kellygreen45: 2/1/2022 7:11:08 PM
              Good post....but I think the truth is even simpler than that...and its hiding in plain sight. People can't see it because they've become so cynical and assume that they are always being lied to or manipulated in some way (sound approach to take when dealing with politicians, but life as a whole is more complicated than that). [b]By buying Bungie, now Sony OWNS the media rights to Destiny outright. So they are free to build an entire cinematic/multi-media universe around it. [/b] ...and Bungie has HANDED them a Universe that is the video gaming equivalent of MIDDLE-EARTH. A universe that is so well-conceived, so richly and deeply structured...that it is an potentially ENDLESS fountain of story telling. They could go on for DECADES just filling in the BACKSTORY of the Destiny Universe (like Disney is right now with Star Wars). Sony could wind up making so much money off of that, that $3.6 billion startes to look like an incredible bargain.... ...and if Bungie's owners got paid in Sony STOCK or options? They could also be looking at a HUGE windfall as Sony's stock goes up in value. Which is why "creative independence" suddenly became a lot less attractive as a principled stand. Like you said, I think just seeing this thing in terms of the sort of video game acquisition that MS made in buying up Bethesda, is to miss the forest for the trees. I think we are looking down the barrel of something MUCH bigger than that. Not only is it not in Sony's interests to do anything to alienate Destiny's player base, doing so would be counterproductive to what I think their real goals are.

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              • Many of these replies are mind-boggling. I have lots of real life issues that take up my time. I have no no cares about what might happen in a video game, I someday hope to have that kind of time on my hands though. So many folks here sound like desperate addicts.

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                • Edited by CookieNiki: 2/1/2022 12:44:21 PM
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                  [quote]Everyone's freaking out, some even after reading the FAQ where [b]Bungie assures[/b] that everything will stay cross-platform with no exclusives.[/quote] Oh, wait! Bungie assures? That's great, I'm really much more calm knowing that! If there's anything and I mean, ANYTHING, about Destiny we can 100% trust is Bungie's promises! Thank you, my friend, you made me a believer in Destiny's future as a multiplatform game!

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                • Logic. What a refreshing thing to see on here after all the whining I’ve seen about losing destiny. It makes no sense for Sony to alienate a large multi platform base. What makes sense to me is Sony giving bungie funding to make destiny a better game (while of course benefiting financially) and owning the rights to make destiny content outside of the games. Books, comics, movies, TV, etc. Huge potential as long as Sony stays out of bungie’s way on the game front at least, which I have faith they will do.

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                • I give it 5-7 years until we hear about parties at Bungo HQ celebrating their independence, yet again.

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                  • Sony is always about console exclusives which never made sense to me. So that makes me think there is a possibility they will stop supporting Xbox some time done the road. Of course, it could also mean some spinoff games, fresh developers, more content. Either way, the game has become pretty stale this last year for me. I would really like to see some big changes next year.

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                  • I can for sure see them hiring more people or helping on some other IPs as for Bungie objectives i think they gonna accomplish them 🔥

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                  • Sony needs to scrap that entire studio.

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                    • Edited by DeMoNiCJoKeR: 2/1/2022 7:44:54 PM
                      Everyone that says they will be done, will still be playing lol. Some are just over dramatic for no reason. Even if there was exclusives, they might complain but just like all the B.s. bungie does and those players still here

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                    • I agree with what you are saying but what if they make a d3 and make that exclusive

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                      • Why are you defending the company that promised "renewed pvp focus" to us since 2018 without ANY focus at all. They NEVER stood by their word from trailers either. Bright days are ahead is what we've been hearing since 2015. Days have never been darker than since they ON THEIR OWN released beyond light. This company is the king of false promises. And their wording in the Q and A is very specific. Their plans will not change until LIGHTFALL. That's 2 years ahead. Obviously they will not change those short-term plans. Everything after lightfall can easily be impacted by Sony as much as SONY wishes. So yea, learn to read and to interpret wording. And stop using an apostrophe on every single "its". Wrong.

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                      • Its that new splatoon BR

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