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1/28/2022 6:39:49 AM
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I'm only very slightly above average, but let me give you my 2 cents about this. I will exclude the obligatory "hit more shots" because that would only have gotten you a trade in this situation whereas we want to WIN THESE. Going into that fight, you knew that your enemy had thorn and you had a 600 auto. Both your optimal ttks are roughly the same, but when cover is involved, yours drastically goes up while his doesn't, no matter who is doing the peaking. Therefore, the first piece of advice is not to stagger your ttk because that will benefit him instead. With that in mind, you didn't exactly go back into cover fully either as you never broke LOS after engaging him. Be mindful when hiding behind cover in destiny that you need to get pretty far behind cover because of bullet magnetism., especially against hand cannons because they have more of it. As for where your actual decision-making and/or mechanics lost you that fight, it was the decision to take then to stay. Neither was a good decision resulting in the loss in the clip, but even a 100% headshot accuracy would have gotten only a trade there. You should have avoided taking the fight against thorn in its optimal range even if your gun is better because you should always try to manipulate your engagements such that you have an advantage when you take them. Stopping your advance as far back as that pillar you passed on your right would have increased your opponent's target acquisition time enough for you to beat him out even if you did not hit optimal shots. But you did not stop at the pillar, and you took the fight. You still have a reset option from here, but you need to act as soon as your opponent missed his first shot. Had you already done some damage to him you could have killed him, but you were not on optimal ttk either, so you should COMPLETELY DISENGAGE. He either would have body-shotted you for about 1/3 or your health (looks like sd was procced) or missed entirely. If you turn around when you jump onto the disk you have height advantage on him and can win the duel. His best option becomes to leave you and go elsewhere. Looking at this clip, some general gameplay tips I would give you are to: -fully understand the situations in which your weapons have an advantage over your enemy's weapons and position to make those situations happen, -do not be afraid to leave an unwinnable fight, but do not think you can leave after the point of no return (usually will be about 1/3 into your health bar) -use abilities. I did not go deeply into this one, but a well-placed nade just before engaging would have made that fight at the very least un lose able. Hopefully at least some of this helped and gl on gitting good :)
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  • [quote]I'm only very slightly above average, but let me give you my 2 cents about this. I will exclude the obligatory "hit more shots" because that would only have gotten you a trade in this situation whereas we want to WIN THESE. Going into that fight, you knew that your enemy had thorn and you had a 600 auto. Both your optimal ttks are roughly the same, but when cover is involved, yours drastically goes up while his doesn't, no matter who is doing the peaking. Therefore, the first piece of advice is not to stagger your ttk because that will benefit him instead. With that in mind, you didn't exactly go back into cover fully either as you never broke LOS after engaging him. Be mindful when hiding behind cover in destiny that you need to get pretty far behind cover because of bullet magnetism., especially against hand cannons because they have more of it. As for where your actual decision-making and/or mechanics lost you that fight, it was the decision to take then to stay. Neither was a good decision resulting in the loss in the clip, but even a 100% headshot accuracy would have gotten only a trade there. You should have avoided taking the fight against thorn in its optimal range even if your gun is better because you should always try to manipulate your engagements such that you have an advantage when you take them. Stopping your advance as far back as that pillar you passed on your right would have increased your opponent's target acquisition time enough for you to beat him out even if you did not hit optimal shots. But you did not stop at the pillar, and you took the fight. You still have a reset option from here, but you need to act as soon as your opponent missed his first shot. Had you already done some damage to him you could have killed him, but you were not on optimal ttk either, so you should COMPLETELY DISENGAGE. He either would have body-shotted you for about 1/3 or your health (looks like sd was procced) or missed entirely. If you turn around when you jump onto the disk you have height advantage on him and can win the duel. His best option becomes to leave you and go elsewhere. Looking at this clip, some general gameplay tips I would give you are to: -fully understand the situations in which your weapons have an advantage over your enemy's weapons and position to make those situations happen, -do not be afraid to leave an unwinnable fight, but do not think you can leave after the point of no return (usually will be about 1/3 into your health bar) -use abilities. I did not go deeply into this one, but a well-placed nade just before engaging would have made that fight at the very least un lose able. Hopefully at least some of this helped and gl on gitting good :)[/quote] Much respect to you for not only the deeply detailed analysis on the advice, but also being super cool about it. It may not have been meant for me, but I learned a bit about how to engage enemies better in PvP and felt like thanking you for it. Bless you and your family and never change Guardian 👍🏼

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  • God bless you too

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  • Excellent feedback bro

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