If you're talking about their moons? Sure. They are some of the most likely candidates for extra-terrestrial life in our Solar System.
If not? [i]Only if your goal in life is to be bathed in lethal radiation (Jupiter) and then crushed like a beer can by the pressure....[/i]
Seriously, though they've already dipped into that well. Io and Europa are part of Jupiter's system of moons...and Titan is one of Saturn's.
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We went to a space station almost touching the sun and regularly visit celestial body’s that all should affect our gravity different but do not
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Edited by kellygreen45: 1/13/2022 10:28:54 AMI’m aware of the space magic. My point is that gas giants are just that….giant bodies of gas held together by gravity. There is no “surface” to explore in the sense most people think of it. The best way to think of Jupiter is the way it was treat by the novel/movie “2010”: a potential second star that just didn’t get big enough to ignite. The planet is just gas. As you get deeper into the atmosphere, the pressure and heat compresses it into a liquid (ocean), while the pressure might be enough to eventually compress it into a solid, the heat may very well prevent the phase transition…and that pressure would crush anything trying to get there down to its molecules long before it gets there. Firmament, the origins of the Worm Gods and the Hive, was a gas giant. The Krill ( what the Hive used to be called) barely eked out a living at the edge of the transition of the gas to liquid..while the Worm Gods themselves had to invoke their Space Magic to live in that depths of that liquid layer…. …and Oryx, Savathun and Xivu Arath would have been crushed long before reaching the Worm Gods if they handnt been trying to lure them down there. The moons of these planets are the only objects that are interesting from a gameplay standpoint.
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Edited by BarrettDylan: 1/13/2022 3:16:39 PMThey could easily make some sort of plausible location They do this in Halo 2 where there’s a derelict forerunner space station in a gas giant’s atmosphere Or maybe the traveler made a portion of the planet have floating land masses under the storms on the surface, or in the eye of the giant hurricane Edit: again I get the pressure thing, but the Traveler’s been shown to alter gravity itself on various planets so I simply do not buy that being something that can’t be changed with whacko writing
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The Forerunners were a million years or more advanced in their technology than we are. They were a galactic civilization that was capable of building Dyson spheres (spheres large enough to surround and harness the power of an entire star).
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Edited by BarrettDylan: 1/13/2022 3:23:44 PMAnd you’re going to straight faced tell me that golden age traveler aided humanity wasn’t easily on it’s way to rival that? The traveler is literally a get out of jail free card for their writing, it can do literally just about anything to alter what’s been impossible for habitation on every single location we’ve been to outside of Earth.
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I’m going to straight face tell you that isn’t how the Traveller works. The Traveler speeds up how a society evolves. It doesn’t let that society bypass that process. So a million years of technological evolution may happen 10 or 100 times faster. But it still has to happen.
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I’m still entirely failing to see why this shows a space station in Jupiter’s atmosphere isn’t possible when we’ve figured out how to conquer gravity itself
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And you’re faking to see that HUMANITY hasn’t done it (though other races have) and what is the POINT of it? The Krill weren’t native to Firmament. They crashed their and had to figure out how to survive or die. The Worm Gods were being imprisoned there. There is nothing you could accomplish in that environment that you couldn’t accomplish from the safety of one of their moons. The slightest malfunction and you’d run the risk of sinking into the gas giants atmosphere and being crushed out of existence.
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Because it’d be really cool? It’s a video game. None of these lore explanations exist for any reason more important than giving us cool places and story’s to experience. They haven’t been built to gatekeep cool locations and story, they were made specifically to do the opposite Being on Jupiter somehow amidst the crazy storms in it’s atmosphere would be extremely cool in a Destiny context, they can make some reason why it can work.
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Because it would be immersion breaking? The Traveler’s effect on the Solar system has been to magically “terra-form” (make like Earth) a number of planets and moons, and to jumpstart Humanity’s evolution and technological progress. But every place that people have populated in the System, they did it for a reason. The Brays went to Mars and Europa to get away from scrutiny of what they were doing. Academics went to Venus to study the Vex. Mercury was colonized to live on. People went to Titan to see if they could survive in an environment relatively untouched by the Traveler. There is no reason for anyone to go into these gas giant atomspheres, basically live on a space station, and risk almost certain death the first time anything goes wrong.
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Edited by BarrettDylan: 1/13/2022 5:37:42 PMI am not even starting to discuss that as immersion breaking in a game where we were given god powers by a mysterious machine deity, don’t get affected by gravitational differences on different planets, fight time traveling inter-dimensional robots, go into pocket dimensions to kill necro aliens who practice dark magic, can survive the sheer radiation blast of going anywhere near the Sun/Mercury/Saturns rings or moons/Europa, transmit out of space ships, get guns and armor decrypted from physical data crystals, etc. It would in no way shape or form be immersion breaking in such a ridiculously fantastical sci fi universe. That’s bizarrely out of touch with the IP and you know it.
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Fictional worlds still have to have rules that they operate by so that they are believable.
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Edited by BarrettDylan: 1/13/2022 5:39:37 PMThey do and this one has no rule that would even come close to stopping what you suggest it does. Destiny regularly breaks conventions of reality and physics that go well beyond simply being in Jupiter’s atmosphere. Not to mention, if you seriously think there’d be no scientific research to conduct within Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, or Uranus’s atmosphere I don’t know what to tell you. That’s just intellectually disingenuous and not true even remotely. NASA crashed a satellite into Saturn to get the tiniest glimpse of information on it’s surface/atmosphere.
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Actually it does. I’ve spent the last few post explaining it to you. You just are ignoring it because it doesn’t fall in line with what you want.
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I didn’t ignore your points. I just disagree with you heavily and explained why, and you don’t like that I do.
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You dismissed them. The magic in the Destiny universe bends the rules, it doesn’t ignore them. The beings in that Universe only do things when there is an in-universe reason to do them. The Krill lived on Firmament because they had no choice… and everyone but they wound up dying there.
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I responded in broad strokes but I addressed the overarching points you brought up. I also gave a reason to visit them that would translate in universe, if we’re pointing out ignored stuff. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree but if you don’t believe I’ve considered your argument, that’s just not true. I didn’t meant to come across that way if that’s how it sounded but I definitely did consider and still disagreed. I would not have spent the time to reply so much if I didn’t.
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With all due respect your reason is “it’s cool”. Not because, they needed to do this.
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We had io... moon of Jupiter and that wad took off us. Dont forget Bungie servers had a max capacity of 50mb