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If you are contesting in the mid range.. you are going to get OHK every single time. I play with my Main Ingredient a lot.. and I have to work to get to the mid range and pre charge a lot of times. Same thing with shotgun apes, they slide and jump to make the distance to OHK. It's all about reaction and reading your radar. Sometimes you just have to change the way you play to adapt to a lobby. Shotgun apes everywhere? Stay back or bait the radar, fusion rifles popping off, again, check your range, dance, strafe. I know it is easier said than done, but it is what it is.
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Edited by A_mo528: 1/4/2022 12:53:17 AMI respect all that stuff that you said but it really does break down when the game gets moving. Like I said to the guy below, they're the shatterdive of weapon archetypes. They're a counter to people screwing up their positioning and reaction time more than they require it. If this game is ever going to feature large scale high level play (for me to watch, because I'm not that good) it needs to reign in the get out of jail free weapons. There's a reason you see stat farming teams using them and its because they're the most efficient way to pay even less attention than you should have to be and they're the best way to get kills when everyone on your team is fighting over them during the free for all. So they mess up 6v6 and they mess up elimination modes.
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Weird way to say you’re an ape
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Edited by A_mo528: 1/3/2022 11:31:58 PMI use sidearms even when its to my detriment and everyone is using ohk. Still have more respect for shotguneers than someone that would go into something like trials with a weapon that hits bodyshot ohks at pulse rifle ranges. It makes no sense for anyone to be using fusions. The "charge time" thing just doesn't cut it as an excuse given what they're capable of and the fact that with the most simplistic strafing you can get off two shots from most fusions before any primary can three tap you means they're just too much imho. Did I mention the bodyshot ohks from pulse rifle ranges?
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Fusion rifles counter sidearms, makes sense you don’t like them. Idk what pulse rifle you’re using but no fusion rifle is killing at near the range of a pulse
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Edited by A_mo528: 1/4/2022 12:21:59 AMFusion rifles counter everything. That's why I don't like them. And the other reason I don't is that they counter everything while being a ranged ohk body shot weapon. The discussion about why I don't like them shouldn't really have anything to do with me. There's no real defense of the sandbox being so tilted in the direction of a ranged bodyshot ohk weapon, especially in an elimination mode. Its fine if that's what everyone wants. But then for people to wonder why the game has trouble with things like figuring out who is better than who when its not even asking them to put any effort into differentiating themselves by giving them a ranged ohk bodyshot weapon is a bit problematic. You shouldn't say that I think the problem with fusions is because I use sidearms when the problem with fusions ripples so obviously throughout the whole of the PvP. And when the game gets weird they will tick up into pulse and especially handcannon ranges with their ohk body shots. They are the shatterdive of weapons. They counter everything.