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10/20/2019 4:24:09 AM
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Erentil's Range is Dumb
Erentil's Range is Dumb. Wizened Rebuke and Loaded are bad but Erentil is the worst. I'm getting mapped by Erentil from distances that are longer than some Hand Cannon ranges. Why? Why Bungie, why?
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2 RepliesThey're that middle ground between a sniper and a shot gun. They shouldn't be changed at all
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30 RepliesI know my erintil got used a ton this weekend on my titan. Went from 600 kills tracked to over a 1000. Hate to see it nerfed since its only go a 5% usage in crucible(meaning not everyone can use one and be any good with it). Honestly the problem is scavenger perk is busted. Special dropping everywhere and im getting 3 rounds per pick up. There's no way i should have 10-14 fusion rounds on me damn near the whole round because.. 1. Im never gonna use primary weapon ever. 2. Shotgun apes got just as much ammo as me and he's not his using primary either. So I'll keep vooping people that rush me with their shotgun and watch them vanish into nothing.
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213 Replies[quote]Erentil's Range is Dumb. Wizened Rebuke and Loaded are bad but Erentil is the worst. I'm getting mapped by Erentil from distances that are longer than some Hand Cannon ranges. Why? Why Bungie, why?[/quote] Why do people still say this? 1. Fusions rifles should have longer range than HCs. 2. You’re not actually getting “mapped” these guns consistently kill at 30m or less. To kill at longer you need range perks, the ability to time your charges, and for your target to stand still out of cover. Fusions are fine, players need to adapt. It’s that easy.
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I've pretty much mained fusion rifles as far back as early D1, far, far before they became fashionable to use. Without going into details, I'm, shall we say, confident using them in any level of play, from pub stomping to high level comp play. Erentil, particularly with Liquid Coils, Under Pressure and Backup Plan, is easy mode. If you think using it is challenging or requires skill, you weren't there during the fusion rifle Dark Ages.
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3 RepliesAre you -blam!-ing morons seriously crying about Fusion Rifles? Seriously? What happened? Someone shut down your shotty charge?
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3 RepliesWhat guns would you prefer to get killed by then?
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33 RepliesEdited by NicoNekomancer: 10/22/2019 3:33:30 AMImma put this here so yall can stop being crucibabies. Currently there is a problem in the game and its with all energy weapons aside from from trace(except for the bugs atm), the new hc, and the single linear fusion riffle, so the exotics. Shotguns, fusion riffles, and snipers are too easy to use, and with the current ammo economy, gets too many kills in a match. is it easy to not die to these things? yes, it is. is it still something that we can all agree is a little broken at the moment? yes, id also say it is. the way to fix this is to reduce that special ammo and the problem solved. sorry yall are trash and cant counter specials or have to use specials to get kills, but this is how it be
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5 RepliesI have a decent (not god) roll. Rampage, with Liquid coils plus under pressure. When rampage is active its straight up broken. I just see how far I can map someone. Multiple stacks of Rampage and it feels like 1 or 2 pellets hit from any range and you gone. I've only been grinding IB for the Pinnacles, but eventually I'll join everyone else vooping my way through comp...Good times.
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4 RepliesHi Everyone! Didn't think this post would take off as much as it did but hey I think that sort speaks for itself. Regardless, let me clarify my position. First off, I think fusion rifles, on the whole, are in a good spot in Crucible. I don't want a nerf on them as a class and perhaps the faster firing archetype even need a tiny buff to compete. However, Erentil's combination of damage, range and tight consistency make it perform, in my opinion, better than the other fusions in its class. I don't know what the correct answer is but perhaps a small nerf to target acquisition on console or the removal of liquid coils. I don't know but I do think that there is a problem here with this specific weapon. Now for all of you who are going to tell me to 'git gud', the reply button is just below and I eagerly await your amusingly petulant condescension.
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So what I’m seeing and hearing is nerf fusion rifles
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1 ReplyIt’s terrible. Please buff it so I can counter those pesky snipers across the map
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7 RepliesIt's funny how you kids hear something derogatory about something you hate and you all jump on the bandwagon. A streamer posts a vid where with a specific set of perks he can kill someone at long range if they're completely motionless and he isn't being flinched from return fire and then you all cry every time you get outplayed with a fusion. Just like a looooong time ago someone said low mobility was better than high mobility and some kids still take it as gospel even though there are vids showing exactly how much difference high mobility makes... hint: big difference. I was playing IB a couple of days ago and my 90 mobility Warlock was evasive enough that people who weren't at the top of their game couldn't even seem to hit me with more than h as lf their shots while I was lighting them up with Trust because they could barely move. You think they noticed my superior mobility? Probably not. Probably raged about Trust being "op" (against their pulses) or blamed lag(sometimes I probably blame lag too when it isn't) because how could it possibly be mobility when they heard once mobility doesn't mean anything? I literally have 36% increased mobility over base and it says it right there. Just like YOU NEVER actually get cross mapped by a fusion. You get killed by a fusion while trying a foolish maneuver and it's the gun's fault. I get it. I'm not great at pvp either. Stop blaming fusions for your stupidity when the info on Destinytracker says Erentil is #70 on the list of most used guns. #70
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I literally never used a fusion rifle until iron Banner forced me to versus Guardians. I will say that that fr4 was is cheat mode. It didn't matter where I hit the enemy or even if they had just jumped over my Fusion rifle after I fired it it still killed them in one shot
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3 RepliesOnly one fun weapon in the game and you complain about it? It takes only a few menagerie runs to get good roll go get your Erentil and stop complaining
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Unstoppable_ScreebADS for 2 seconds……… - 4/19/2024 7:03:55 AM
Love Erentil, awesome weapon -
It will get nerfed sometime and something else will take its mind place. Quite crying
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1 ReplySo pathetic how people are defending Erentill. Making dumb excuses why people get hit by it.
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It take no skill to use.
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I just think the fact that only 1 fusion archetype is viable is wack. If other fusions were anywhere near as consistent, I'd use one to counter it. I got like 3 god roll fusions that sit in the vault cause it's like the hitbox is smaller than this DLC's content.
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3 RepliesMy Erentil has a range of 88, my Lunas Howl has a range of 47. Let that sink in a bit. You can still get mapped by a gun that has half of the range my Erentil has
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23 RepliesErentil barely kills over 25m, especially on console. you probably watched that 60m kill video in a private match with the guy standing still 😂
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2 RepliesEdited by Nazo: 10/21/2019 10:28:53 AMQuit complaining. I've been slapping people with that weapon ever since Forsaken, and now all of you plebs are whining about it.
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9 RepliesIt's a good counter to that overly confident Titan who thinks they're going to charge you head on for a ohk bash. Denied. Go cry about Erentil on the forums, you have 5 seconds before respawning! 😂
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1 ReplyEdited by Whopping Dingers: 10/22/2019 12:39:01 PMLast season I was a heavy erentil user. I was doing a wishender erentil loadout to combat shotgunners and lunas/not forogtten users. This season I have found my love for shotguns. I have finally got to a skill point where I can use shotguns effectively (when I started this season with shotguns I was getting battered). During this weeks iron banner I was faced against someone with higher power using erentil. There was a big gap between us and I knew I was in kill range for the erentil. All I did was strafe as they charged up and they got at least 70- 80% of hits on me. With that sliver I closed the gap and just popped them with my imperial decree. I tried dustrock blues but it just isn't for me, I'm more of a high risk high reward player. Getting that kill was very satisfying. You just have to adapt and outmanoeuvre. Edit: I should have put that I don't mind fusion rifles in their current state. They are easily countable and you can bait the erentil user into committing their charge into a shot just by strafing in and out of cover. If Bungie did nerf fusion rifles they would have to put up for a whole year of people putting "So...nerf fusion rifles" after everything they say. There's a twab somewhere where they very firmly said, "So..nerf fusion rifles...WE GET IT". Edit 2: I provide this video as a testament to my erentil days in comp: https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/whoppingdingers/video/80582796
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Check my god tool on my hunter
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As long as there is an opponent running jotunn’s tracking sniper rifle, I’ll have a fusion in my inventory!
